Good points and analysis. I'm interested in what top program numbers are

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Feb 9, 2016
10:30:23pm

StalwartBraveTrue Starter

Good points and analysis. I'm interested in what top program numbers are

I'd be content with .650-.700 if there are occasional special years (0-1 loss). I don't buy the level of competition argument. Don't we all want BYU to be considered a top team? If so, win at the same clip and knock the big dogs off once in a while.

I agree BYU plays and wins on over-achieving, well-schemed, lesser-talented athletes. I don't want to call it a ceiling, but I'd say it's at upper end of potential.

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TheKing

2/9/16 3:49pm

Schedules are getting harder, too

rggee

2/9/16 3:52pm

We're going all in for Poly's

TomPetty

2/9/16 3:58pm

Well that all depends. How long are Detmer and kalani going to last?

Cougarrrs

2/9/16 3:59pm

I'm pretty sure I remember Kalani saying something to the effect

gmj81

2/9/16 5:26pm

Fans need special seasons every now and then.

2/9/16 4:00pm

^^This is the answer. Fans want years where they can reminisce about it.

BYUheaven

2/9/16 4:04pm

That '06 season should've been special

CaliWG

2/9/16 4:08pm

That's the sad thing. That 06 team was a great team; likely Bronco's best.

2/9/16 4:13pm

It's the one I remember best and have the most fond memories of

gmj81

2/9/16 5:29pm

09 team was not close to as good

lukeskywalker

2/10/16 10:00am

I liked the 2006 season better but compare the rosters position by position

gmj81

2/10/16 11:00am

Fair Point

TheKing

2/9/16 5:23pm

^THIS. I agree that BYU won't be able to hold 10 win seasons every year

ColonelMustard7

2/9/16 9:58pm

We've never had exceptional defenses for a 4-6 year stretch. If we could have the same

lightmann

2/9/16 4:00pm

It will increase if they can consistently get better recruits

I'mBatman

2/9/16 4:00pm

Do you believe it is possible for programs to progress?

Bostonblue

2/9/16 4:05pm

Of course they can progress...

TheKing

2/9/16 5:20pm

from the sound of the OP, you make it sound as if we are capped

Bostonblue

2/9/16 5:55pm

THIS.

ColonelMustard7

2/9/16 9:56pm

You understood my OP accurately

TheKing

2/9/16 9:59pm

I think you severely underestimate recruiting

g$

2/9/16 11:42pm

If we play at the level we have the past 40 years, that would mean we are

Bostonblue

2/10/16 9:26am

Look at Oregon and Ole Miss, anything is possible.

2/9/16 6:05pm

I wonder if Edwards/Mendenhall are your average.

displacedute

2/9/16 4:05pm

I think you bring up a good point but looking at the top 10 coaches in BYU

kudzucoug

2/9/16 5:28pm

the difference is recruiting.....

BYU Grounds

2/9/16 4:49pm

Just going off the recent past

CougarTail

2/9/16 5:03pm

This is very true. Our best units have rarely coincided with one another in recent years.

Harrison0Yfan

2/9/16 6:36pm

I'm most worried about defense. No one really knows how good Tuiaki will be.

bretonnia

2/9/16 7:34pm

I'm hoping that

CougarTail

2/10/16 8:11am

I don't expect a big change in recruiting outcome

TheKing

2/9/16 5:29pm

I disagree, I think recruiting classes could consistently be ranked in the 20-35

2/9/16 6:11pm

And if we could even get consistently in the low 40's that'd be a huge boost.

Harrison0Yfan

2/9/16 6:38pm

I fully expect Kalani to have top-50 classes yearly, with his average around

bretonnia

2/9/16 7:39pm

This is exactly true. I think we are hurt way more by depth than by lack of top talent.

Harrison0Yfan

2/9/16 10:25pm

Getting guys drafted consistently would help a lot.

wilsdad

2/9/16 8:07pm

That really is the only possible difference in my view - if somehow

Bob Vance

2/10/16 9:05am

I hate this line of thinking.

Harrison0Yfan

2/9/16 6:29pm

DON'T COMPARE BRONCO AND LAVELL!!!!!

byu_coug

2/9/16 6:37pm

I don't see any problem with using Lavell as the yard stick in BYU football

StalwartBraveTrue

2/9/16 10:36pm

You gave no reason as to why...

2/10/16 10:14am

Why

byu_coug

2/10/16 1:21pm

there's a reason you're a redshirt freshman. you haven't drunk the Kool Aid

mindzeYe

2/9/16 6:50pm

I could live with .650

wilsdad

2/9/16 8:02pm

Good points and analysis. I'm interested in what top program numbers are

StalwartBraveTrue

2/9/16 10:30pm

I think fans hope to see one special, outlier season every once in a while.

jwalk

2/10/16 9:01am

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