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Sep 27, 2016
10:30:37am

Backcountry All-American

If this is a surprise to any of you, I don't know what to say.

This was the obvious outcome. There is only one candidate that is additive, and that candidate is politically toxic. The rest of the candidates are midgets. It was over before it ever began, and when I say that I mean like back in 2011. BYU IS NOT AND NEVER WAS A SERIOUS CANDIDATE FOR EXPANSION. It's simple.

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Time

Sounds like expansion is dead.

riboflavin

9/27/16 10:25am

Broken engagements are the worst.

9/27/16 10:26am

Id rather they not expand to expanding without BYU.

Revolution

9/27/16 10:27am

Agree with every fiber of my being.

boogers

9/27/16 10:27am

this is like being happy we are 1-3 b/c the losses are "close"

nashty

9/27/16 10:29am

More like preferring to be 1-3 than 0-4.

squidmark

9/27/16 10:32am

I don't see that comparison at all.

GoatyGoatCoug

9/27/16 11:04am

That don't make no sense.

9/27/16 1:06pm

It would be a stupid move to expand without BYU

9/27/16 10:38am

Not necessarily...I think the PC stuff

truecougster

9/27/16 12:47pm

Moral victory!!

Machiavelli

9/27/16 11:31am

its not a moral victory. If expansion happens w/out BYU it shuts the door even

MormonThug

9/27/16 12:39pm

Good thing it's a done deal....oh wait...

Polecat

9/27/16 10:28am

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Zach Morris

9/27/16 10:45am

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RebelScum

9/27/16 12:18pm

Good. Now BYU can join that all Texas conference Monty knows about.

BGRTHNUMEGO

9/27/16 10:28am

with ND, FSU and BAMA too i heard

nashty

9/27/16 10:30am

I don't know Monty from Adam

El Careeb

9/27/16 10:30am

RE: Expansion is dead.

nashty

9/27/16 10:28am

Not too much of a surprise

TNT

9/27/16 10:28am

who's really surprised at this? With the amount of egos and politics involved

9/27/16 10:28am

Or maybe now that it is "dead" they can move forward without the politics

Littlerich

9/27/16 10:32am

let's hope.

9/27/16 10:33am

If true, this isn't the worst outcome in the world.

jbcoug

9/27/16 10:29am

If BYU can't get in now they never will

TNT

9/27/16 10:30am

If the Big XII implodes before it can expand, I believe that the haves of...

9/27/16 10:34am

It was "dead" on July 18, too.

rggee

9/27/16 10:29am

Of 2011...

Backcountry

9/27/16 10:31am

I would have sad a couple of months ago, but I feel strangely detached now.

Ssebo

9/27/16 10:29am

There is a reason Nebraska and Colorado left the B12.

spugeddy24

9/27/16 10:29am

And Missouri...and Texas A&M...and soon to be Oklahoma...

9/27/16 10:36am

Yep. B12 used to have some powerhouse schools. Now most of them suck

spugeddy24

9/27/16 10:37am

Thanks, Obama.

GuitarGuy

9/27/16 10:29am

And now...the "source" backpedaling begins...

9/27/16 10:30am

Why do they need to back pedal? They all said it was fluid

Littlerich

9/27/16 10:30am

"fluid" the ol' 2010-2011 standby...Not a particularly great vintage IMHO...

9/27/16 10:39am

Every source I read said it was "a done deal" but things were fluid

Littlerich

9/27/16 10:55am

Hehe. Fluid has been the go to "escape goat" for 5 years now.

9/27/16 11:03am

OIW, a meaningless statement.

messi

9/27/16 2:42pm

Good thing they spent all that money to be told they should expand

9/27/16 10:30am

It's the Big 12. The two powers are always at odds with each other

TNT

9/27/16 10:32am

I have nothing to refute this, but Boren and Oklahoma were down on expansion

Littlerich

9/27/16 10:30am

Why does Bruce Bowen hate expansion?

SCcoug

9/27/16 10:32am

^This^

rggee

9/27/16 10:32am

Boren never has been. Castiglione was. But this is new for Boren if true.

riboflavin

9/27/16 4:28pm

If this is a surprise to any of you, I don't know what to say.

Backcountry

9/27/16 10:30am

I would be really worried about my future if I'm a few of those schools in the big 12.

RdF3

9/27/16 10:31am

this is GOOD NEWS for BYU. Now, seek a scheduling deal with the BIG12.

cougareugene

9/27/16 10:31am

That is the dumbest thing I've read. BYU needs an invite to a P5 conference.

9/27/16 10:32am

It's only a "dumb thing" if you havn't been paying attention. BYU was going to

cougareugene

9/27/16 10:34am

Harry Potter is more realistic than a scheduling deal with the Big 12

DapperDan

9/27/16 10:37am

Both parties are free to schedule each other at will. Big XII gains zero from

Polecat

9/27/16 10:56am

Ribo, if I remember correctly, broke the Twitter news that the schools were

9/27/16 10:34am

He has almost seemed a little shady to me..not sure about that guy's character..

Backcountry

9/27/16 10:36am

He also may or may not be Boney Fuller so I am not sure when to take him serious

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/16 10:54am

i didn't break the news, i posted the tweets of like 9 national guys that said

riboflavin

9/27/16 10:58am

I think that was his point. The source for your conclusion now is the same

LifeLongLakerFan

9/27/16 11:00am

i'd be happy if they were all wrong again.

riboflavin

9/27/16 11:03am

Then why title your post "Expansion is dead"? You know as well as everyone

LifeLongLakerFan

9/27/16 11:07am

I changed it to make you feel better. I know the media is wrong, but I also know

riboflavin

9/27/16 4:27pm

I didnt care how you titled it. I can read the media reports and draw my own

LifeLongLakerFan

9/27/16 11:04pm

Sure seems like it.

bluecheese

9/27/16 10:43am

Long live Expansion!

(Private)

9/27/16 10:44am

Probably so. But, the best negotiation comes when the other party knows you're

SoutheastIdaCoug

9/27/16 10:49am

Agreed. Thinking the same thing. This may be the way OK calls TX's bluff.

LifeLongLakerFan

9/27/16 11:02am

B12 Deserves to Blow Up

runningryan

9/27/16 11:01am

It was weird

TNT

9/27/16 11:03am

They tell us what they are going to do and when they are going to do things

Y2k

9/27/16 11:38am

None of the other conferences did that when they expanded.

runningryan

9/27/16 12:59pm

Read the campusrush article..sounds like people in the B12 are upset at how

Machiavelli

9/27/16 2:03pm

Wasn't it Bowlsby that announced they were pursuing expansion?

rggee

9/27/16 2:08pm

It's Boren's way of saying to the "Little 8" teams, "vote with me or be G5 soon"

TheGoodTwin

9/27/16 11:05am

Who cares about expansion, love me some mountain goats!

Samuel Hall Society

9/27/16 11:07am

Or it's posturing. Or he doesn't know what he's talking about like he didn't know what he was talking about on July 18.

Bgash

9/27/16 11:17am

Or he is honestly conveying what he is hearing from others.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/27/16 12:11pm

I'm not saying he's being dishonest or anything. I'm just saying no one in media really knows anything for sure.

Bgash

9/27/16 3:34pm

Gotcha. I think you are right. We can't take this stuff at face value at all.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/27/16 4:31pm

Time to start a new conference "WannaB12" for all the wannabees like us

Bee Chunder

9/27/16 11:31am

Hasn't OU being against expansion been rumor for a month?

CosmoK

9/27/16 11:53am

Yep. It won't die either way it seems. Still nothing official folks.

BamaCoug

9/27/16 12:09pm

I'm with you. No need to hang crepe until the big12 speaks.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/27/16 12:12pm

this is a game of cat and mouse.

Littlerich

9/27/16 12:19pm

Sounds like OU to the B1G could happen

9/27/16 11:55am

Long live expansion.

9/27/16 12:19pm

Hack much?

(Private)

9/27/16 12:26pm

Meh he's just relying on Thamel's SI articles; Boren is probably posturing cuz

RillDill

9/27/16 1:04pm

this post is giving me some serious deja vu

tricksR4kids

9/27/16 3:00pm

Sounds more like every possible outcome has been discussed so as to ensure them being right about something.

Graig Swame

9/27/16 5:14pm

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