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Wow. From ESPN: teams minus five or more in turnovers are

BYU '80

10/21/16 6:33pm

Five turnovers. Plus one turnover on downs. +2 unsuccessful field goals.

d-coug

10/21/16 6:36pm

I feel like I should be happy about losing by 1 to a top 15 team on the road

BaghdadBob

10/21/16 6:37pm

Exactly how I felt. Plus the D giving up big yardage was also painful.

byujdmba

10/21/16 6:40pm

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A Player Named Gus

10/21/16 6:40pm

Yep, the only thing that would have been redeeming about last night would be to

cougaman

10/21/16 7:37pm

Yes the D gave up 570 yards, but without 7 punts and 3 turnovers on downs, BYU

Kougrage

10/21/16 9:14pm

Biggest problems I had with the D is giving up big deep plays 3 times, and not

cougaman

10/21/16 9:21pm

Yah, gives you sick feelings. Credit Boise, but at times, it felt like no one

Kougrage

10/21/16 9:30pm

Wow - if you're complaining about the D in that game - your expectations are too high.

proudcugr

10/21/16 9:40pm

So I have no right to complain about missed assignments? D did good that game,

cougaman

10/21/16 10:15pm

You have every right to complain - things weren't "perfect" - they never will be.

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:23pm

My worry is if the D is going to be able to fill those major holes they have,

cougaman

10/21/16 10:41pm

That's a good point - and I worry about it too. But I'll take giving up a few deep balls

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:46pm

Until we don't get the turnovers and give up 50 like Toledo and WVU

cougaman

10/21/16 10:56pm

Very true - and when that happens, critiquing the Defense is very justified.

proudcugr

10/21/16 11:00pm

Both the BSU and Utah games were handed to us on a platter and we blew it

Run-DMT

10/21/16 11:36pm

i'm thumping a guy with 5 total posts...what is this world coming to?!?!

nashty

10/22/16 12:02am

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 6:38pm

And oh yeah, another tiny detail......NO JAMAAL!!

keithcoug

10/21/16 6:40pm

I'd fully support benching Taysom if he was the only position playing poorly. But he's not alone in season struggles

SpiffCoug

10/21/16 6:44pm

And this, Abe Froman, is you right now:

sakhr

10/21/16 6:54pm

Faulty logic. You assume defenses would scheme BYU the same with Mangum and

Michicoug

10/21/16 8:31pm

Nailed it, well put.

MatthiasG

10/22/16 2:00am

You think teams would for some reason not pressure Tanner like they are Taysom?

Mises

10/22/16 3:43am

One way to find out. Blitzing is a risk against effective passing because it

Michicoug

10/22/16 7:47am

The reality is - you just don't know this. Neither do the Tanner supporters.

proudcugr

10/21/16 9:50pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:10pm

No Abe. I think the coaches are wrong to not try Tanner.straight out.

Michicoug

10/22/16 7:49am

What surprises me is that Ty was a qb stuck behind a qb he proved to be better

Michicoug

10/22/16 7:44am

Abe, you have no idea who our best option is right now.

Y'zFan

10/21/16 9:51pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:10pm

No - the coaches don't know either.

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:18pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:22pm

Lol - yup - exactly what I said - "The coaches have literally no idea". I seem to have lost that post though.

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:29pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:32pm

Did you read my post before replying?

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:39pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:42pm

lol - actually No - "Coaches know more than I do but are not infallible" is not equal to "Literally no idea"...

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:43pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:45pm

Followed in the exact same post by "Coaches know a whole lot more than I do, but are not infallible"

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:47pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 10:50pm

Exactly. They study football, they form opinions and beliefs based on that study but those opinions "may" be wrong.

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:57pm

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Abe Froman

10/21/16 11:20pm

Since the options are to guess or to know for certain, I "guess" most fans know coaches aren't omniscient.

proudcugr

10/21/16 11:47pm

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Abe Froman

10/22/16 12:09am

They also thought fake punt on 5 yard line was the right thing

jes2332

10/21/16 11:35pm

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Abe Froman

10/22/16 8:27am

Much of Ty's O is pre/post snap read, 5 step, quick release w anticipation &

MatthiasG

10/22/16 1:58am

We have 2 of those losses this year.

dave

10/21/16 8:10pm

No, we were only +3 in turnovers against the Utes.

cougaman

10/21/16 8:18pm

I'm happy we had no turnovers.

(Private)

10/21/16 10:10pm

I would actually trade a turnover or two for a more aggressive approach and downfield passing

proudcugr

10/21/16 10:19pm

BYU was -5 in 1984 and beat Michigan. There's that.

Wear Blue

10/22/16 12:38am

Can you name one recent college in pro style that had good passing stats?

Bobmarleyjr

10/22/16 1:01am

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