Is it the QB or the coach? We don't know. Remember BB was a failure in Cleveland.

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Jan 22, 2017
8:41:03pm

macaroni Moderator

Is it the QB or the coach? We don't know. Remember BB was a failure in Cleveland.

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Nobody does more with less than Brady does. It's part of why he's the GOAT.

spugeddy24

1/22/17 7:15pm

Hey they could be called the Brady Bunch

TNT

1/22/17 7:18pm

Except hes paired with the GOAT in coaching, Belichick

1/22/17 7:18pm

less what? problems? dead weight? scrubs?

Bgash

1/22/17 7:20pm

How difficult is it to pass to open receivers?

Busiturtle

1/22/17 7:22pm

I still doubt the Steelers know Chris Hogan wears #15 and

Busiturtle

1/22/17 7:24pm

Belichick is the most important factor. Brady definitely #2. Does exactly what

Game Changer

1/22/17 7:26pm

So who would you say is GOAT at qb.

spugeddy24

1/22/17 7:28pm

Manning.

byujacob

1/22/17 7:29pm

Manning had more talent around him imo.

spugeddy24

1/22/17 7:30pm

and played indoors almost his whole career.

VACOUGFAN

1/22/17 7:31pm

Disagree. While I like Brady more, manning was forced to play differently because of the lack of talent on the team.

macaroni

1/22/17 8:39pm

Im as big a Manning homer as there is, but Brady is GOAT

1/22/17 7:31pm

Lest we forget that Brady is still writing his story. Manning is not.

boss

1/22/17 7:34pm

Also let's not forget that the NFL didn't just start existing in the late '90s.

Game Changer

1/22/17 8:07pm

Brady is GOAT

1/22/17 7:30pm

1 & 1a

VACOUGFAN

1/22/17 7:29pm

also not debatable. he's the GOAT. he still has to make the plays and he's been

VACOUGFAN

1/22/17 7:30pm

His accomplishments are similar to Bradshaw and Montana, guys who won a ton of

Game Changer

1/22/17 8:03pm

Bradshaw is enormously overrated

spugeddy24

1/22/17 8:17pm

who also played their entire careers pre free agency which meant they had

VACOUGFAN

1/22/17 8:38pm

I disagree. They're both equally as important and completely necessary.

Machiavelli

1/22/17 7:50pm

Except we have seen Brady removed from the equation and Pats keep winning.

Game Changer

1/22/17 7:58pm

Yeah they won a few games w/o Brady, but they were NOWHERE near as good as they

Machiavelli

1/22/17 8:16pm

and they didn't make the playoffs did they...

VACOUGFAN

1/22/17 8:40pm

Is it the QB or the coach? We don't know. Remember BB was a failure in Cleveland.

macaroni

1/22/17 8:41pm

Lots of coaches struggle in the first few years. Look at Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh

Game Changer

1/22/17 8:50pm

the question to always ask is it the QB, or is it the coach? there is almost always debate. Gibbs is really the only guy

macaroni

1/22/17 10:48pm

Many have much less than Brady, like for example Rodgers. Check out these NFL

chilango

1/22/17 7:46pm

Pats defense this year = fewest points allowed by any team since 2013

Game Changer

1/22/17 8:11pm

Exactly.

chilango

1/22/17 8:21pm

He's good, but he'd not be my first pick.

Jeffacka

1/22/17 7:50pm

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