I think we're on the same page. I think the program is dying.

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Sep 20, 2017
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johnnycarson All-American

Slowly each year.

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johnnycarson

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P5 is the only way. Indy is the gap to P5. Donations will fall if we move to G5.

TheFed

9/20/17 3:42pm

the fanbase won't accept it imo. others disagree i'm sure. admitting we are

johnnycarson

9/20/17 3:47pm

It sounds like many fans are starting to miss a conference. I had

cougtrain

9/20/17 4:09pm

There are already empty seats at LES...

Coug

9/20/17 4:11pm

If Wiscy came just three weeks ago it

truecougster

9/20/17 4:59pm

I think we're on the same page. I think the program is dying.

johnnycarson

9/20/17 7:17pm

I will bet you my next paycheck ESPN renews. I'll bet you 5 of them.

jkccoug

9/20/17 8:28pm

It has nothing to do with us Being a bargain....

Coug

9/20/17 8:39pm

They aren't going to suddenly stop showing football.

jkccoug

9/20/17 8:41pm

Also they aren't bleeding money. That's a common CB narrative that is 100% false

jkccoug

9/20/17 8:43pm

I'm strongly opposed to going back to G5. I really struggle to get the

gwalker

9/20/17 3:49pm

The day Utah and TCU left the MWC is the day the door forever closed

Indy Coug

9/20/17 3:51pm

Great post

jkccoug

9/20/17 3:54pm

The best analogy I have heard was something about taking a paycut, moving to an

crack

9/20/17 4:01pm

It's all LaVell's fault

panguitch

9/20/17 6:06pm

Signed,

Zach Morris

9/20/17 3:57pm

Penn State is an independent school that went P5

Indy Coug

9/20/17 3:59pm

I believe that Georgia Tech did as well.

Y'zMan

9/20/17 4:04pm

University of Miami

crack

9/20/17 4:05pm

Also, didn't Florida State too?

Y'zMan

9/20/17 4:06pm

Nah, they went from the Metro Conference to ACC in 1991

Still Questing

9/20/17 4:10pm

Actually, I forgot the Metro Conference didn't have football. Yeah, FSU.

Still Questing

9/20/17 4:11pm

Wikipedia said that your updated comment is correct

Y'zMan

9/20/17 4:14pm

You invented an argument not in the OP. He's right that going back to G5 will

TaiJuan

9/20/17 4:00pm

Not anymore than Independence has impacted it

Coug

9/20/17 4:13pm

And you should be grateful for a fanbase that's too big for it's britches. If

TaiJuan

9/20/17 4:18pm

It's not me who should be grateful...

Coug

9/20/17 4:20pm

LOL what a ridiculous post.

Abe Froman

9/20/17 4:53pm

RE: It's not me who should be grateful...

jkccoug

9/20/17 5:26pm

Going Indy doesn't guarantee a P5 inclusion. But going from

gwalker

9/20/17 4:00pm

Are we? Are we really way ahead of the G5's?!

SaintGeorgeYFan

9/20/17 4:16pm

Yes. The few that are better have hit their ceiling. Our ceiling is

gwalker

9/20/17 4:20pm

We are the have nots when several G5's...

Coug

9/20/17 4:16pm

PSU, WVU, Miami, FSU, VaTech all were independent before joining an AQ/P5.

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 4:18pm

What... 35 years ago? How about we stay in the last decade

Coug

9/20/17 4:21pm

There weren't any independents left except new FBS, ND, & service academies

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 4:45pm

That's because independence is the WORST

VenetianCougar

9/20/17 5:52pm

No they found a power conference. None them would've settled for G5

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 8:26pm

I don't see any other G5 going indy.

VenetianCougar

9/20/17 9:17pm

Not that ESPN would find worthy of a contract to make it worth leaving a G5

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 9:23pm

There is a reason for that... Independence isn't sustaining

Coug

9/20/17 7:13pm

He says it so P5 conferences know this isn't our long term goal but they left G5

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 8:26pm

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CLCougar

9/20/17 4:27pm

Huh. You use WV as an example of G5 giving better chance than independence?

panguitch

9/20/17 6:13pm

Yeah independence worked to get to an AQ/P5

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 8:23pm

Goin back to G 5 is like a Dog returning to it's vomit!

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