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Nov 14, 2017
9:13:40am

autonomous Starter

Laugh if you want but it’s true.

Every year the refs are trying to emphasize certain rules. That year they were focusing on celebration penalties. There were many instances where players got flagged for signaling first down or for flexing after a sack. They went way too far with it that year.

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Has BYU ever won a game thanks to a really bad call/missed call by the refs?

Indy Coug Misunderstood

11/14/17 8:20am

BM Chad Bunn

SausageKing

11/14/17 8:21am

*missed facemask penalty vs SDSU on same play. So not exactly.

mulletino

11/14/17 8:23am

Didn't BYU beat Washington years ago, in part to a bad celebration call. The QB

Cougar TD

11/14/17 8:22am

I'd guess you'd have to demonstrate how the celebration call resulted in a blocked PAT

Indy Coug

11/14/17 8:23am

Yeah, it was the only thing that came to mind.

Cougar TD

11/14/17 8:24am

I thought at the time that UW would have gone for 2. And probably would've won.

COACHdrn

11/14/17 12:12pm

Jake Locker would have got the 2 point conversion easily

rggee

11/14/17 4:44pm

No, Locker threw the ball 50 feet into the air. Happened right in front of me.

mulletino

11/14/17 8:23am

I remember on Sportcenter that night, they went through every other TD...

OPINIONS

11/14/17 8:32am

Yet the announcers stated it was a rule he broke. Dumb rule/Right call

blueaussie

11/14/17 8:44am

They were mostly pointing out the selective nature of enforcing the rule.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 8:58am

Calling a penalty for a specific rule violation is a good call. Now if you

blueaussie

11/14/17 9:07am

Nope.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 9:11am

Well said

Carlos E. Queso

11/14/17 12:46pm

The lengths Ute fans on CB go to gin a good call into a bad is what astounds me.

Cully

11/14/17 3:19pm

Not going to great lengths. Just sharing my take on a game I happened to watch.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 4:11pm

Objectively, the Locker call (in their stadium) was exactly by the rule book...

Cully

11/16/17 7:05pm

No, it doesn't count as an incorrect call, but it absolutely counts as a bad one

scootsy

11/16/17 8:04pm

Did Locker "throw the ball high into the air"? That is the exact wording of the example written into the rule

mvtoro

11/17/17 1:00pm

Define high... 15-feet? 25-feet? 50-feet? It's a subjective call, by rule. Refs

scootsy

11/17/17 1:32pm

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blueaussie

11/17/17 2:56pm

RE: Define high... 15-feet? 25-feet? 50-feet? It's a subjective call, by rule.

Cully

11/17/17 3:06pm

So your argument is that he didn't throw it *high enough* to be considered "high"?

mvtoro

11/17/17 3:56pm

I never said the call was incorrect, I said the rule is by nature subjective.

scootsy

11/17/17 3:58pm

OK. So it was a correct call that you, also subjectively, don't like. That's fine. I don't much like it either.

mvtoro

11/17/17 4:59pm

Yeah, pac-10 officiating really sucked. So does pac-12 officiating.

mtnKat

11/14/17 9:42am

JJ Deluigi's nonfumble at home (vs SDST?). It was important to the win.

ImuaKahuku

11/14/17 12:39pm

Mark May cried about it for days

stoils

11/14/17 12:51pm

That's right. I couldn't remember what he did, but glad BYU still won

Cougar TD

11/14/17 8:36am

So then it would fall under the really bad call heading, not missed call

scootsy

11/14/17 9:00am

Didnt spike the ball. Threw it up in the air. Seems minor, but much different.

Count Cougar

11/14/17 8:46am

No, it was the correct call unfortunately for them. Then the kick was blocked.

ArchbishopMitty

11/14/17 11:36am

This is actually listed on the wikipedia page for "Touchdown celebration" as the first (of 2) examples of how the rule

mvtoro

11/14/17 12:50pm

Except that wasn't a bad call. It was absolutely the right call.

LV Mike

11/14/17 1:54pm

Yes, the 1980 Holiday Bowl. Matt Braga trapped a ball that was ruled a TD catch.

CopperLix

11/14/17 8:23am

Is there definitive proof showing he didn't catch it?

Indy Coug

11/14/17 8:24am

It sure looked like a trap to me.

CopperLix

11/14/17 8:25am

Per Paul James, Braga reportedly acknowledged "it bounced once, maybe twice."

11/14/17 8:53am

I watched that over and over, very blurry, but it doesn't look like he gets his

BlueForLife

11/14/17 8:38pm

I don't see that as much of a bad call by refs as it was just an angle thing.

Thug Mormons

11/14/17 10:24am

Was Doman's knee down before the goal line in 2000?

ag4cougs

11/14/17 8:25am

BYU was only down one. They could have still kicked the FG

Indy Coug

11/14/17 8:26am

*could have...

ag4cougs

11/14/17 8:28am

Or ran another play from the 6 inch line.

mulletino

11/14/17 8:30am

So a FG shorter than a PAT would have won it even if the call was different

Indy Coug

11/14/17 8:31am

Staley fumble from that game?

11/14/17 8:40am

good one

ag4cougs

11/14/17 8:55am

yeah, you're right.

ag4cougs

11/14/17 8:55am

Sure as crap lost a game to Utah because of the blown call on the knee being down.

COUGZ

11/14/17 8:27am

2002/2010. Yep. Blown calls for sure.

mulletino

11/14/17 8:28am

2002 was ridiculous. The ball either crossed the goal line or forward progress

Still Open

11/14/17 8:45am

I'm not entirely sure what's funny. The way the ruling went was fumble and

Still Open

11/14/17 9:05am

The Kaneshiro doink came after a U player got flagged for signaling a 1st down.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 8:30am

Those calls were pretty common that year. They were cracking down on celebration

autonomous

11/14/17 8:43am

Ah yes, 1998, the year they really cracked down on understated celebrations.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 9:04am

Laugh if you want but it’s true.

autonomous

11/14/17 9:13am

And it wasn’t “signaling a first down”. Jones did a little dance and got flagged

autonomous

11/14/17 9:17am

You're arguing with a yewt in the throes of byu hate

Carlos E. Queso

11/14/17 1:04pm

19 years later. Still beating myself up about it.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 1:23pm

Didn't the Utah receiver clearly step out of bounds before he caught a pass last year?

11/14/17 8:33am

I think you're thinking of Toledo

MaxxPower

11/14/17 8:49am

Ops, thought it said lost a game.

11/14/17 11:04am

Staley looked like he fumbled in the 2000 Utah game on the winning drive

cougarblue

11/14/17 8:45am

Yeah, we got really lucky on that horrible call.

Still Open

11/14/17 8:46am

Brandon Bradley was down.

slowhiteguy

11/14/17 8:52am

THISSS^^^^ cost us the game momentum was huge.

11/14/17 8:55am

That was a really bad call. The freeze showed possession and knee on ground.

Colorado

11/14/17 10:38am

Vs Arizona 2006 IIRC a no call for kick-catch interference resulted in a short

11/14/17 8:56am

I'm looking for ones that FAVORED BYU, not went against them

Indy Coug

11/14/17 9:05am

That was so bad...

Refugee

11/14/17 12:57pm

Wasnt there a fumble in the SDSU game (when brady hoke coached them) that was

TBabyCougs

11/14/17 9:04am

Yes, but most CBers say the ball was moving forward.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 9:06am

Do you work for the Trib?

Carlos E. Queso

11/14/17 1:02pm

Nope. I went to Utah for school, so I have a hard time holding down a job.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 1:27pm

Just give you more time to cruise your rival's message board, though.

CougarThug

11/14/17 3:26pm

Original.

OPINIONS

11/14/17 3:50pm

TCU in 2005 Double OT

BlueTroop

11/14/17 9:07am

Oh, never mind BYU lost that one.

BlueTroop

11/14/17 9:11am

Utah game. I think it was the year Jake Heaps was QB

SupernintndoChalmers

11/14/17 10:24am

2006 Harline was open for an illegal amount of time in the endzone.

ditch

11/14/17 10:50am

WINNER!!!!

COACHdrn

11/14/17 12:16pm

Clock read 0:00 way before he got the ball. Should not count. Game was over.

Y05

11/14/17 12:18pm

SDSU in 2010. I remember a fumble that was reviewed and somehow went our way.

imfear2000

11/14/17 10:58am

1984 pitt game. Pitt actually scored a touchdown on a reach over by a pitt playe

claw

11/14/17 11:09am

I conveniently choose to forget bad calls that work in our favor

Hill4Heisman

11/14/17 12:00pm

No team has ever won due to a bad call per its fans

AxelDC

11/14/17 12:37pm

To actually say the call won the game, i think it has to be on the final play

Y05

11/14/17 12:52pm

No. Never. The only bad calls are the ones that go against us.

lightmann

11/14/17 12:56pm

Mike Reed had a nice offensive PI no call against TCU in 2006

kiyoshige

11/14/17 1:40pm

That's different. There are penalties in every snap. Refs just choose not to

cougaman

11/14/17 3:11pm

nearly impossible to remember that kind of thing. so hard to say.

smokymountainrain

11/14/17 4:34pm

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