The problem is there is a way to get around every control. I know.

Apr 28, 2024
12:53:48pm

byusage All-American

So I don't feel comfortable putting a smart phone into a youth's hands until they have developed a mature internal filter. That doesn't happen for years after 7th grade when most parents are giving their kids smart phones

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Time

Most of you need to get with the program

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 12:27pm

I just used a flip phone in HS. My first “smartphone”

JohnnyC

Apr 28, 12:34pm

Do you have kids? How old are they?

Chester Copperpot

Apr 28, 12:34pm

Yes, 5 with a 6th on the way

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 12:37pm

We waited until 8th grade, but even then we have restrictions on apps and time

Chester Copperpot

Apr 28, 12:43pm

The problem is there is a way to get around every control. I know.

byusage

Apr 28, 12:53pm

So you also acknowledge controlling access to a phone only works if every other

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 12:55pm

Here is what I do. Set up screen time, deleted Safari, restricted downloading

Chester Copperpot

Apr 28, 1:43pm

The illusion of control…

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 1:47pm

Nothing is safe. School isn’t safe, dating isn’t safe, driving isn’t safe, food

Chester Copperpot

Apr 28, 2:20pm

This can make sense to me in high school

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 2:03pm

Don't talk about things being so easy and clear cut until you've gone through it

fattycoug

Apr 28, 12:52pm

This one is pretty clear cut. And it would be easier for everyone if

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 12:58pm

Sure. But good luck with this easy thing now that

fattycoug

Apr 28, 1:02pm

Pass… thanks for the opinion though

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 1:03pm

If this became an issue we'd immediately withdraw him from school

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 1:10pm

To be clear, speak into the microphone

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 1:18pm

Ah, more karma coming your way🤣

fattycoug

Apr 28, 1:48pm

I’d recommend you take a step back and analyze the social impact

mobicurious

Apr 28, 2:56pm

I'm being somewhat hyperbolic here

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 3:23pm

I don’t think anyone brought up burner phones.

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 7:44pm

It's sad to me some people still aren't getting it that the problems introduced

Mitty

Apr 29, 3:19pm

So what’s the problem? what have you done for your kids?

crablegs

Apr 30, 6:43pm

You will have a different perspective in 5 years. I agree phones need to be

johnnybyu

Apr 28, 1:13pm

I've been through the fire in other things

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 1:15pm

I am sure you have. We go through many fires and our perspectives

johnnybyu

Apr 28, 1:15pm

I'm in the heat of the fire. My teenagers have dumb phones-call, text,

chivo

Apr 28, 4:10pm

Agreed, but since most parents buy smart phones for kids, the social dilemma...

CougaReb

Apr 28, 6:58pm

Sure it's not easy

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 7:16pm

I've gone through it. No phones, no regrets.

CougarMandias

Apr 28, 3:51pm

Everyone is a parenting genius before their kids turn 13. He’s going to find out

Big Daddy D

Apr 28, 6:44pm

I'm backed up here by lots of research and other parents

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 7:20pm

It is easy. I have kids ranging from 6 to 21. Three are

crablegs

Apr 29, 12:22am

Lol....you act like phones are the problem when...

WJCougar

Apr 28, 1:16pm

This. Kids use tablets if they don’t have phones. PC’s if no tablets. Technology

Big Daddy D

Apr 28, 6:47pm

I'm also anti tablet

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 7:04pm

Everyone should follow my example

Lifi

Apr 28, 12:37pm

We're doing that. But it's only successful because our school district gives every student a Chromebook

HuskerFan2

Apr 28, 12:53pm

It looks to me like the word "smart" is not in the question.

crazY

Apr 28, 12:54pm

Fair point

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 1:02pm

Every parent should read the Anxious Generation

gaffer

Apr 28, 1:05pm

Most should worry about themselves and not others families approach.

xarope8

Apr 28, 1:09pm

Unfortunately most of us have to live with this generation that has been ruined

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 1:11pm

<< Deleted >>

xarope8

Apr 28, 2:01pm

I challenge all parents who think like you to spend some time being a substitute

byusage

Apr 28, 1:18pm

My wife was chatting with the mom of our son's friend. They were commiserating about phones and how damaging

durandal

Apr 28, 1:12pm

This is exactly what I'm talking about. EVERYONE knows it's bad

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 1:16pm

And then resolve their cognitive dissonance with rationalization

Hiccupless

Apr 28, 4:56pm

Parents are weak (me included).

Mitty

Apr 29, 3:22pm

As a teacher I second this. NO high school student needs a smart phone.

TrueBlue67

Apr 28, 1:13pm

What about a phone that can text message and call, but doesn’t have browsers etc

TO11

Apr 28, 1:33pm

This is what I would like to do in a few years.

NumbersGuy

Apr 28, 1:51pm

This is what jr high kids should have

byusage

Apr 28, 1:52pm

I want to slap the parents who give their elementary age kids smart phones.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 28, 1:53pm

My 8 year old neighbor, friends with my kids just got a full on smart phone. She

Your Royal Blueness

Apr 28, 2:27pm

Everyone should give “Anxious Generation” a read

IGlowInTheDark

Apr 28, 2:36pm

Going to happen anyway…

Dr.Cougar.DPT

Apr 28, 6:02pm

This is a copout

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 6:35pm

Interesting that someone who claims to read research depends upon CougarBoard anecdotes

SJS

Apr 28, 6:42pm

RE: This is a copout

Dr.Cougar.DPT

Apr 28, 7:58pm

But my kid won't be cool

Coug Dude

Apr 28, 6:30pm

And then most of their kids aren’t cool anyway

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 28, 6:59pm

This is a real shame… because there’s lots of excellent reasons to give a middle

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 7:46pm

And far more not to

MetaLearner

Apr 28, 8:24pm

Far _fewer_, yes I agree

NanoFab Coug

Apr 28, 11:15pm

In my ward a bunch of the parents have senior positions at Gabb

sdg_coug

Apr 28, 10:35pm

No phone until 7th grade, dumb phone until 9th, pinwheel phone until 11th

runnincoug

Apr 28, 10:40pm

Do flip phones when exist? And if so, can they Even send and receive text

Great38

Apr 28, 10:47pm

They text as well as they did before. Meaning no group texts or images.

runnincoug

Apr 28, 11:29pm

Glad my kids are adults now

BYU Grounds

Apr 29, 1:46pm

But you'll be relied on for advice for grandkids, no?

Mitty

Apr 29, 3:23pm

Anyone have an opinion on pinwheel vs. Gabb vs. Bark, etc.?

Great38

Apr 29, 5:48pm

Pinwheel worked great…parent dash was easy and I liked all the positive apps

runnincoug

Apr 29, 8:07pm

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