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[BYU Cougars] Tom Holmoe

Nov 21, 6:12pm

Zach Wilson for Heisman! You can vote once per device per day. View

[ESPN] Heisman House

Nov 10, 9:43am

College Football is the most unfair sport in the world today...

Burgandy?

12:32am

Okay, I still hate the Yewts. But go peruse a few threads on a UW board.

DomCasual

12:24am

Saw it on Twitter today. They're quickly climbing the Ute/Boise power rankings.

HotspurCoug

12:29am

The grossest miscarriage of justice is ISU and OU ahead of BYU.

ldssdl

12:22am

Full Kalani Link (ESPN interview): Hadn't seen a link to the full (5 minute) interview posted on CB as yet:

Yllage Vidiot Humbly Awesome

12:15am

Thanks for sharing the link. Hadn't seen the whole thing.

Cougar8Duck

12:21am

He's sooo classy. Respect. I couldn't do it. Great ambassador.

Yiowa

12:23am

Couldn't he have answered the Washington question more directly? Was it not indeed that WA couldn't guarantee a game...

Brisco

12:27am

Probably didn't trust himself to not attack UW

Yiowa

12:28am

Great interview. Wished he’d promoted his team & fan base more when asked.

Soupie

12:31am

BIG 10 should allow Wisconsin to play BYU

Thrill

12:14am

That’s the secret. UW= Wisconsin

Heath Squashwell

12:18am

Lowest ranked at large team in the CFP era

Blue Cat

12:01am

Article: BYU Football: 5 Takeaways From First CFP Rankings, Cougs No. 14 spot View

[KSL Sports]

Nov 24, 11:56pm

For those who are claiming BYU has been the victim of collusion or at least some

NorthwesternSeasider

Nov 24, 11:56pm

Just means Coastal Carolina also need to farther up

Rat

Nov 24, 11:59pm

I guess the eye rolls and laughing faces are proof that this is an unpopular

NorthwesternSeasider

12:00am

The way everything unfolded this week was a little too convenient

mobius

12:02am

Spend more than 2 minutes looking at their w-l record and the answer is obvious

g$

12:04am

I’m not sure I follow.

NorthwesternSeasider

12:05am

Exactly

g$

12:06am

You’re referring to CCs W-L record or another teams?

NorthwesternSeasider

12:08am

Look at any of the advanced analytics and they show a clear separation between 2

g$

12:12am

That 3-spot difference basically knocked BYU out of a NY6 game.

swingcat

12:05am

I don’t disagree. It sucks. I just don’t think it’s a conspiracy.

NorthwesternSeasider

12:09am

What's your explanation for the huge disparity between AP voters and CFP?

swingcat

12:02am

The burden of evidence is not on him. He’s not the one claiming there’s a conspiracy.

Dr MoBYU

12:06am

It’s a fair question. I think we fail to remember that the original AP

NorthwesternSeasider

12:07am

In a normal season, yes. We would have played and beaten 5 or 6 P5 teams.

DMVCougar

12:33am

I don't think it is a conspiracy. It's just poor rationale.

shimmy

12:04am

They have a beef too. College football needs an expanded playoff. Teams like

Countcougula

12:07am

Sagarin has Penn State, 0-5, ranked #19. The computers aren't working in Covid

Cougar8Duck

12:10am

IMO, any undefeated G5 team should be ranked ahead of the whole Big12.

ldssdl

12:11am

Oh yeah, and not a single B12 team has fewer than 2 losses. What a joke.

ldssdl

12:16am

It’s not specific to BYU. The conspiracy is to keep everyone not in P5 out and maybe

Soupie

12:14am

They threw the G5 a bone to keep them happy

A Drew Aitch

12:15am

Seeing Oregon behind us makes me think that maybe it isn't a conspiracy.

ditch

12:18am

So 14 is the line, but 15 could’ve been a conspiracy?

Kugmo

12:27am

...but USC is still behind that, so not a conspiracy then?

Kugmo

12:29am

Us I am sorry but what part of a Northwester Logo says Us?

LEDSFW

12:24am

Why wouldnt Marshall or Coastal want a game to get in the mix?

Avery

Nov 24, 11:55pm

Maybe just having a good season in general is good for them. They don't want...

Rat

Nov 24, 11:58pm

I am still feeling beat up and sick about this fiasco. How can a bunch of losers in some room somewhere

Yllage Vidiot Humbly Awesome

Nov 24, 11:52pm

Me too.

topnotchbyu

Nov 24, 11:55pm

I hate to say it, but sometimes I feel like we have to settle.

Brisco

12:19am

I’ll settle for Utah to be winless this season and to look bad doing it. Is that a reasonable compromise?

Yllage Vidiot

12:28am

The #14 ranking isn't just unfair, but it basically sent a message to Cinci that they SHOULD NOT schedule us as they

ChinaFan All-American

Nov 24, 11:51pm

I can still see why it would make sense for Cincinnati, but I can also see

topnotchbyu

Nov 24, 11:53pm

Cincinnati is in no matter what - whether they lose to BYU or not - unless they

nephicoug

Nov 24, 11:56pm

I went from cheering against Cincinnati to cheering for them.

topnotchbyu

12:00am

If they don't schedule us they are dead to me.

dave

12:15am

Thank you to Jeff Hansen for the stats: 65 AP voters voted on football teams las

eyes4byu

Nov 24, 11:47pm

This is quite a bit over the top in my opinion.

NorthwesternSeasider

Nov 24, 11:49pm

Everyone gets an opinion. Even the CFP committee.

eyes4byu

Nov 24, 11:51pm

interesting reply considering how many think Northwestern got a much better grade than they deserved..

HarlemCoug

Nov 24, 11:54pm

By the committees logic I guess I understand. If they’re going to rank Iowa 23rd

NorthwesternSeasider

Nov 24, 11:58pm

How so?

mobius

Nov 24, 11:57pm

This line

NorthwesternSeasider

12:04am

I demand a recount!!

BYUBandfan

Nov 24, 11:49pm

Can we get a “Give up and join a G5” category?

AZcougLawyer

Nov 24, 11:46pm

It's already under "Coach 80k Empathists" group

RealSimsShadY

12:24am

We really need a schedule announcement tomorrow

dave

Nov 24, 11:45pm

Blue and White game on BYUtv

WP17

Nov 24, 11:50pm

May this season move the needle for the Big12 to want BYU and Cinci

HONOMO

Nov 24, 11:45pm

What makes you think this? Makes no sense.No one wants BYU.

Cswilliam01

Nov 24, 11:47pm

RE: May this season move the needle for the Big12 to want BYU and Cinci

FT487

Nov 24, 11:48pm

If we take a Big12 team’s NY6 spot, it might. Worked for TCU.

HotspurCoug

Nov 24, 11:49pm

This is so depressing. I hope Tom can make some magic happen somehow.

cruiserhead Truly Addicted User

Nov 24, 11:44pm

If magic was a possibility, I think it would have happened several weeks ago.

Brisco

Nov 24, 11:45pm

Northwestern is overrated, the CFP is hot garbage, and other nighttime stats

DMVCougar

Nov 24, 11:40pm

No OOC play is just killer... lack of comparison is hurting us so bad.

Heath Squashwell

Nov 24, 11:44pm

You’re comparing those teams to Troy, W Kentucky, UTSA, N Alabama and the like?

pink22

Nov 24, 11:45pm

Thanks for posting these. Every single Big 10 team should be at ranked at least

BYUHawk

Nov 24, 11:46pm

I guess I’m not sure your point with these posts? So EVERYbody is bad now?

NorthwesternSeasider

Nov 24, 11:46pm

Looking under the hood, I think some teams are overrated

DMVCougar

12:14am

Their remaining schedule is easy. But, they could slip up.

Benfica1

Nov 24, 11:47pm

it's okay, just like 1984, I expect half the pack to lose a game over the next three weeks

ChinaFan

Nov 24, 11:48pm

Well the computers say that they have the best strength of record in the country

Magathisll

Nov 24, 11:59pm

The P5 Moat is Wide and Deep

Cswilliam01

Nov 24, 11:38pm

The P5 and the old BCS came into existence to prevent another BYU 1984.

Jay_L

12:16am

BYU, CFP Rankings, and This Weekend's Games

lbmango

Nov 24, 11:38pm

Sadly, you are most likely right. The fix is in. Ugh.

sportsbro

Nov 24, 11:42pm

Utes still pac 12 step child - they go to Washington - both teams had road games

johnnybyu

Nov 24, 11:38pm

perhaps had to do with the Yewts' construction?

HarlemCoug

Nov 24, 11:39pm

Could be that too. Trying to find some solace and Utah will be 0-2

johnnybyu

Nov 24, 11:42pm

9-0 >>>>>>>>>> 0-1 but......hopefully after this weekend we'll see 9-0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0-2

HarlemCoug

Nov 24, 11:43pm

They have almost no chance at Washington. 2 winnable games were cancelled so at

johnnybyu

Nov 24, 11:46pm

UW doesn't want to dwell in a tent.

shimmy

Nov 24, 11:46pm

GA: 4 of their wins have 5 losses each. A&M: 2 have 5 loses, 1 has 6 & one has 7

Benfica1

Nov 24, 11:38pm

Tom Holmoe now...

heber79

Nov 24, 11:38pm

Is that next year’s Halloween costume?

bluesloth

Nov 24, 11:40pm

I don't know if any p5 conference is going to let their schools schedule BYU

cougaman

Nov 24, 11:33pm

Absolutely not! There’s no way

YSeattle

Nov 24, 11:35pm

No chance that a team left out of their CCG but knocking on the door plays in

Trent

Nov 24, 11:37pm

BYU wouldn't move the needle. They beat BYU, then BYU drops out of the top 25

cougaman

Nov 24, 11:45pm

P5s when BYU asks for a game.

hydrocoug

Nov 24, 11:40pm

Will SDSU be Zach’s last game if we don’t make a NY6?

the_byu_flash

Nov 24, 11:30pm

Why would he not play in the other bowl game?

dave

Nov 24, 11:31pm

Lots of first rounders don’t think it’s worth the risk

the_byu_flash

Nov 24, 11:32pm

You're right. You can really imagine a sad end to this season with the news

topnotchbyu

Nov 24, 11:33pm

No. He will feel disrespected and come back next year with something to prove.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:32pm

<< Deleted >>

topnotchbyu

Nov 24, 11:32pm

I heard he's off to the pros after this season so maybe

Rat

Nov 24, 11:36pm

Good point actually

macdizzle

Nov 24, 11:49pm

Sums up california in under 120 seconds 😃

Choke

Nov 24, 11:29pm

RE: Sums up california in under 120 seconds 😃

tjngirlz

Nov 24, 11:55pm

I hate it, but BYU should follow PAC12 COVID testing in the off chance a game

ldssdl

Nov 24, 11:28pm

RE: I hate it, but BYU should follow PAC12 COVID testing in the off chance a

fredetteaboutit13

Nov 24, 11:32pm

The pac12 won’t help us by scheduling us

YSeattle

Nov 24, 11:37pm

I don't watch The Crown, but I read recently that Thatcher was being

Pedant

Nov 24, 11:28pm

Hey as much as this affects BYU, it also affects ZW

Heath Squashwell

Nov 24, 11:25pm

I don't think so. NDSU's sched isn't that good either.

yahtzee

Nov 24, 11:26pm

NFL GMs don’t give two farts about what the CFP thinks

KingDave

Nov 24, 11:28pm

No. Not at all. I doubt anyone on the committee has watched a single BYU game

rcbyufan

Nov 24, 11:29pm

One of the Top 5 QBs drafted will be from North Dakota. They don’t care who you play.

MarkWatney

Nov 24, 11:31pm

No because NFL scouts actually watch games.

Soupie

Nov 24, 11:32pm

Trey lance, josh allen , Carson Wentz ... no

gmoney7

Nov 24, 11:46pm

No, NFL will look at his arm, his speed, and his ability to move in the pocked,

cougaman

Nov 24, 11:48pm

It may hurt a guy like Brady Christensen though. He's a guy who could do a lot

cougaman

Nov 24, 11:50pm

No, NFL scouts don’t look much at that.

sidsie716

12:08am

Can we package our slight & Pac 12 slight together and call it east coast bias?

rcbyufan

Nov 24, 11:25pm

I'd rather watch the PAC12 crash and burn

mobius

Nov 24, 11:35pm

POLL: Who do you want to win?

Division Bell

Nov 24, 11:24pm

If they play, it technically makes us look better since we would’ve been

YSeattle

Nov 24, 11:40pm

it helps us more in the yewts play and lose

HarlemCoug

Nov 24, 11:56pm

If you want some news on the long distance runners at BYU, here is a video of a few doing a mile time trial last week.

CrimWalCoug All-American in practice

Nov 24, 11:24pm

I want 100 points on SDSU.

conetah

Nov 24, 11:23pm

And a shutout

Schultz is back

Nov 24, 11:29pm

I like the transparency/fan engagement here from Harlan

LifelongAP

Nov 24, 11:21pm

two words: HD truck.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:23pm

Here are just some of the teams BYU is known to have contacted about playing.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:21pm

Marshall, Coastal Carolina

Littlerich

Nov 24, 11:21pm

Criddle is claiming Marshalll on Twitter, but is there a source for Coastal?

ldssdl

Nov 24, 11:25pm

Jake Hatch I think

the_byu_flash

Nov 24, 11:33pm

Aparently Marshall and Coastal Carolina.

BYUALWAYSNUM1

Nov 24, 11:22pm

Army

Unibro

Nov 24, 11:24pm

Yeah, but I’m mostly thinking of teams we didn’t end up scheduling.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:26pm

At this point, there’s speculation that Cincy’s been contacted as well.

The Lone Star Cougar

Nov 24, 11:37pm

Can’t imagine we haven’t contacted Cincy.

bluesloth

Nov 24, 11:37pm

I wonder how much this might affect a recruit's view of BYU. This really sucks.

Division Bell

Nov 24, 11:20pm

That was my first thought... come to Provo, go undefeated, and play a MW team in the Potato Bowl!

WP17

Nov 24, 11:22pm

And play well enough to be a Heisman finalist.

Soupie

Nov 24, 11:27pm

The team needs a lot more than a QB

WP17

Nov 24, 11:42pm

This team HAS a lot more than a QB

Cswilliam01

Nov 24, 11:51pm

Recruits know this year's schedule is an anomaly.

topnotchbyu

Nov 24, 11:28pm

I doubt they care that much about it.

ldssdl

Nov 24, 11:29pm

Just a guess, but I think ultra-competitive athletes are sensitive to disrespect

Division Bell

Nov 24, 11:32pm

This.

Benfica1

Nov 24, 11:44pm

they don't care at all. I have a senior football player. Now he isn't being recruited by BYU (or anyone for that matter)

BlueFrog

12:17am

Only positive tonight was all the free PR & analysts coming to BYU's rescue...

sportsbro

Nov 24, 11:18pm

Unfortunately it won't change anything and Cincinnati vs BYU isn't happening-

acougfan

Nov 24, 11:25pm

I think it will happen.

topnotchbyu

Nov 24, 11:27pm

Yup. Even if Cincinnati loses they'll still be #13-14. Still way ahead of #20 CC

sportsbro

Nov 24, 11:40pm

I’d much rather play Iowa State or one of the other pretenders ahead of us.

Colorado

Nov 24, 11:34pm

Yes, would love that. We'd beat Iowa State by 20+ easily. Unfortunately...

sportsbro

Nov 24, 11:37pm

I feel like if BYU beats Cincinnati that the Committee will say that Cincy was

acougfan

12:02am

Takeaways from the first College Football Playoff rankings and the disrespect given to #BYU. #BYUFootball @kslsports View

@Mitch_Harper Mitch Harper

Nov 24, 11:17pm

BYU will be ok if they beat suck dog state and schedule at least 1 more game

SoValleyCOUG

Nov 24, 11:17pm

There are 4-5 P5 teams right behind BYU. They will play 4-5 more P5 games.

ldssdl

Nov 24, 11:20pm

If BYU beats a top ten cincinati team, yes.

SoValleyCOUG

Nov 24, 11:31pm

It’s an uphill battle just to schedule Cinci, let alone beat them. Far from ok.

ldssdl

Nov 24, 11:39pm

If we only play SDSU, would it be wrong to score 100 points on them?

Heath Squashwell

Nov 24, 11:17pm

Yes... Because I want 150

Cougar TD

Nov 24, 11:18pm

I want 223-0

KingDave

Nov 24, 11:22pm

I see what you did there #CumberlandVsGATech

refunder

Nov 24, 11:35pm

Dave Fox is on cloud 9 with the news of BYU at 14

fredetteaboutit13

Nov 24, 11:13pm

I'm surprised he took off his furry suit

Sid Vicious

Nov 24, 11:16pm

Is he still on tv? Who watches local news anymore?

SoValleyCOUG

Nov 24, 11:33pm

DF is looking old, which means....

byuguns55

Nov 24, 11:41pm

Here’s the big question, BYU had nothing lined up for this weekend. Why not accept UW? Testing protocols? It was a miss.

Dr MoBYU Truly Addicted User

Nov 24, 11:11pm

They are playing Utah

SpotOnOpinionsGuy

Nov 24, 11:12pm

? UW is playing Utah.

akmewg

Nov 24, 11:13pm

We did. That’s why we practiced on Monday. To get ready to play UW.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:13pm

We didn’t though.We know BYU balked at the requirements. Either way though, it’s a monopoly and wouldn’t have made a dif

Dr MoBYU

Nov 24, 11:16pm

There was no game being offered.

SpotOnOpinionsGuy

Nov 24, 11:17pm

We did though. We had an agreement and UW backed out.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:17pm

So Kalani lied?

Cougar TD

Nov 24, 11:21pm

Lol. Such a dumb take.

Sid Vicious

Nov 24, 11:24pm

You’re a real tough guy on the internet.

Dr MoBYU

Nov 24, 11:28pm

At least I'm not a real dumb guy

Sid Vicious

Nov 24, 11:29pm

Why so angry? It’s one man’s opinion. No one has all the facts.

Dr MoBYU

Nov 24, 11:43pm

oh brother....

byuguns55

Nov 24, 11:42pm

B/c everyone knew Utah would be playing them. No $$ to pay for added testing, travel expenses & there would never

Soupie

Nov 24, 11:14pm

Soupie,it still doesn’t totally add up. What’s with TH saying “we want to wait until Tuesday”to make a decision about UW

Dr MoBYU

Nov 24, 11:34pm

He didn’t say that. Just a bad rumor by someone at UW. If he was waiting on anything it was to see if UT/ASU would go.

Soupie

Nov 24, 11:38pm

Idk.Looks like lots of people have strong opinions.Not a lot of actual facts out there.Both sides stories don’t add up

Dr MoBYU

Nov 24, 11:42pm

Think you’re believing a narrative that’s just not there.

Soupie

Nov 24, 11:44pm

That’s the thing, there’s a lot of buy-in on this thread of a conspiracy theory that Pac12 did an premeditated smear job

Dr MoBYU

Nov 24, 11:54pm

No BYU thought they had the game that’s why the called players back to campus

A Drew Aitch

12:05am

That’s one way to look at it. I just don’t see a conspiracy. I think it was a leak. And I think they called the players

Dr MoBYU

12:15am

They were in talks. There was enough chance of playing to warrant practicing.

Soupie

12:24am

Don’t see a smear campaign by UW. Just the PAC with idiot criteria they knew no one

Soupie

12:12am

Again. On Monday, we were getting ready for UW. UW was getting ready for Utah.

All-American

Nov 24, 11:39pm

We tried to. Washington's offer wasn't real.

BYUtka

Nov 24, 11:15pm

A miss for a game that was never going to happen?

braddahmike

Nov 24, 11:16pm

BYU was working on an agreement that wouldn’t leave BYU high and dry

Cougar Geek

Nov 24, 11:16pm

We didn’t actually have the chance to schedule them. We had at best the chance

jkccoug

Nov 24, 11:20pm

Have you not read anything about this?

LifeLongLakerFan

Nov 24, 11:22pm

YOU'RE NOT LISTENING. It was a burn-burn proposition.

Unibro

Nov 24, 11:23pm

It was nothing more than a smear plan by the pac 12. They’ve been planning it

A Drew Aitch

Nov 24, 11:30pm

Yup, hope they burn in hades

YSeattle

Nov 24, 11:44pm

This is what all of the national media is saying but not full story, argh

YSeattle

Nov 24, 11:44pm

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