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Super Conference with UCLAUSC gone from then PAC 12 who grab next In The west

germ1

11:39am

Boston just got a lot better. Trades Theis, Nesmith and 2023 pick for Brogdon.

BGRTHNUMEGO

11:39am

What's happening in Utah yesterday/today with everyone's P12 decals

BYUMizzou

11:38am

RE: What's happening in Utah yesterday/today with everyone's P12 decals

Gustav

11:40am

Amazing that there is a non-zero chance that, after all the snobbery, Stanford

yahtzee

11:37am

Stanford likely goes FCS before it goes MWC

WP17

11:38am

Tomato tomahto

molodyets

11:40am

They would go independent first.

mudpupper

11:40am

Some of the experts think Stanford would be fine ending their football program if it comes to that. 🤷‍♂️

slappy

11:38am

Could there be a greater disparity in academic standards than those two schools?

BluesBrother

11:39am

Why is nobody talking about the fact that BYU may not have a conference to join

cougar4life55

11:37am

Because the Big 12 is in the position of strength right now. UW and UO likely gone as well.

mulletino

11:38am

RE: Why is nobody talking about the fact that BYU may not have a conference to join

Sea Chicken

11:38am

It has been discussed and is possible.

Benfica1

11:38am

They were lobbying when the PAC-12 had SC and UCLA. Not comparable now.

kansascougar

11:39am

The PAC 10 ended when...

SportsRoad

11:36am

On field results speak for themselves. Utah doesn't fit in the Big XII

Mzansi

11:36am

Say again?

Deleted True Conservative

11:33am

He is paid a lot of money for his opinions...SMH!!

Ycrazy

11:34am

He is paid a lot of money to stir controversy and get clicks.

LeonMarek

11:34am

Isn’t the real nightmare scenario that the ACC decides to make a play as a

snowbird

11:33am

Actually, it would be worse if they added Baylor, Kansas, Texas Tech and OSU

mannheimadler

11:34am

Merge w/ the P10 leftovers? That looks neither scary nor in the ACC’s interest

BYU'01

11:35am

It would probably be the smartest move for both conferences

Blue Cat

11:40am

Kings trade Holiday, Harkless and a first for Huerter. Sacramento is so good

BGRTHNUMEGO

11:31am

RE: Kings trade Holiday, Harkless and a first for Huerter. Sacramento is so good

cougar95

11:34am

New Cougar Tracks is up. I shared my thoughts on the USC/UCLA move to the #B1G and what’s next for #BYU’s new home, the #Big12. #BYUFootball #realignment View

@Mitch_Harper Mitch Harper

11:31am

Wouldn't it be nice

Sea Chicken Freeloader

11:27am

Yep..for every Alabama and Georgia, you need a...

WJCougar

11:35am

All I can say is that the new PAC 12 media negotiations must have looked bleak

Mikey

11:41am

Yeah, I know you love to mock Garrard, but if his source is anywhere close to

Hypnotoad

11:26am

The PAC 12 is dead.

mulletino

11:27am

Just goes to show how much USC was worth. Crazy.

Huge Manatee

11:28am

Except for Utah State right socky?

Mister P

11:28am

PAC12 is dead in it’s current form

Medute

11:28am

Best will be taken by Big10. The good will be taken by Big12.

Mister P

11:29am

All that really matters is what teams get the big10/Sec invites

GlutealGuy

11:30am

Next dominoes--UW and Oregon to B10. Arizona schools, and 2 others to B12. PAC12 adds MWC teams to keep the name.

Turnpike Lane

11:28am

USU to the Rose bowl 2024

cypresstx

11:29am

Seems reasonable

Huge Manatee

11:29am

Keep the name? The PAC(lite)?

BluesBrother

11:34am

How does the PAC become a G5? How exactly do they lose their seat at the table?

BYUtka

11:36am

Plus Clemson, FSU, & Miami to the SEC. Then there is "P2" and everyone else.

Zinger

11:39am

They'll pull up their stakes before they add that many G5's.

BlueFever

11:37am

I will go on record saying that the PAC isn't dead. Not as wealthy, but not dead

Benfica1

11:29am

It's about to become a G6 league

Turnpike Lane

11:30am

All depends on UO and UW. If they leave it is effectively dead.

slappy

11:33am

Nah, add MWC teams & keep the name. PAC is a big brand–even if in name only.

Benfica1

11:35am

If UO and UW leave, the Arizona schools will for sure go to the Big12. It can keep the name, but it'll be dead.

slappy

11:37am

Agree with this. If Uw and Oregon stay, the Pac12 remains the weakest P5

D.T. Survivor

11:37am

Is there any difference here between "if" and "when"?

Baylorbears11

11:39am

Some of the experts think they certainly want into the B10, it's just a matter of whether the B10 wants them. Unclear if

slappy

11:41am

I mean, it was already the 7th ranked conference in 2021 before this death blow. Dead as a serious contender officially.

mulletino

11:36am

He obviously isn’t considering the Utah brand.

cougarblue

11:33am

I think he’s right about the money. The lack of passion in the PAC fan base is

TempeCoug

11:34am

Just finished Stranger Things S4…

provoprodigy

11:25am

Our guy😎 View

@BYUBaseball BYU Baseball

11:24am

Big 10 and SEC are not going to 24 teams

HawkeyeCoug

11:24am

16-18 each and they stop.

Turnpike Lane

11:25am

….. Yet

mannheimadler

11:25am

North Carolina adds as much as some of those you listed.

fbguru

11:26am

I suspect more than UW or Oregon.

Bluforever

11:27am

Also Georgia Tech, Virginia and Virginia Tech

mannheimadler

11:28am

The ONLY reason they would do it is if they had plans to completely break off

jreid191

11:31am

Agreed

johnnybyu

11:32am

You can't have a conference of 100% elite teams. Every game has to have a loser

BYUMizzou

11:35am

New Big 12 boss Brett Yormark is built to lead modern-day Power Five league View

@Harmonwrites Dick Harmon

11:24am

*Power Four

Gustav

11:24am

Its actually power 2 plus 2 mid tier and then the rest. The big 12 needs to

johnnybyu

11:35am

He needs to be leading it on July 1st not Aug 1st

CougarCanuck76

11:25am

Recent 9 minute Dave Chapelle stand up speech honoring Jon Stewart

jrifkin48

11:23am

That whole show was great.

Cougz19

11:39am

USC and UCLA expecting two other West Coast teams to join pod... stay tuned.

RealityCheck

11:22am

is there a source on this?

BYUheaven

11:23am

Yes sir, LaMike Black

Huge Manatee

11:24am

LaMike Black is the new DudeofWVU

mannheimadler

11:25am

LaDude of Florida

molodyets

11:25am

I am sure Oregon and UW are in the works

johnnybyu

11:23am

Unless USC is calling the shots and wants to axe UW and Oregon as threats.

jrifkin48

11:25am

Because this is about $$$. Full stop.

Turnpike Lane

11:26am

Sometimes it is more profitable not to destroy your enemies.

BluesBrother

11:27am

Why though?

molodyets

11:25am

I’m not sure at all.

Bluforever

11:28am

I hope so.

BlueFever

11:24am

This makes total sense, if it’s true.

BluesBrother

11:24am

Do us all a favor and provide a link or source. TIA

kansascougar

11:24am

IF so, RIP PAC12

Turnpike Lane

11:26am

I wonder who it could be...

darkcoug

11:36am

Headed to Logan in a couple weeks. Recommendations on a nice restaurant

Chester Copperpot

11:22am

RE: Headed to Logan in a couple weeks. Recommendations on a nice restaurant

Sea Chicken

11:22am

La Nonne or Elements are the only 2 really nice restaurants in Logan. El Torro

Hambone

11:36am

Beehive Grill was always pretty solid.

Shore10

11:39am

What is your idea of a nice restaurant?

Shore10

11:37am

Not hearing much out of Arizona. Would they prefer to try and save the PAC12 and

BluesBrother

11:20am

The Arizona Sports 98.7 radio guys want ASU and AZ in the Big 12

arizonacougarfan

11:21am

With LA schools gone I think so. Great for BBAll for Arizona and ASU would like

johnnybyu

11:23am

It does make a ton of sense for both schools.

Little Mac

11:36am

It seems like a mutually beneficial move. It provides stability to both sides.

BYUtka

11:25am

I'm hoping that their silence means they are working out a deal with the Big XII

BYUtka

11:25am

LOL @ your third option.

BluesBrother

11:29am

Which is probably the most accurate

Blue Cat

11:32am

Both #1 and #3 are correct.

Bluforever

11:38am

They were just back stabbed by two prominent schools

I'mBatman

11:33am

Yep time for the big 12 to strike while iron is hot

johnnybyu

11:36am

Guy on AZ radio was saying AZ and the ACC are in rumored discussions. Big 12

bigbossbyu

11:37am

One thing to remember is new BIG12 commissioner has some deep connections

ordinary tri guy

11:18am

Sounds like very wishful thinking to me but I won’t complain if you’re right

squirrelyearl

11:20am

Well ROC already has some control within NFL so who knows.

ordinary tri guy

11:21am

They should bring in the entirety of the PAC into the big 12. And talk the ACC

A Drew Aitch

11:21am

bring in AZ, ASU, Colo. Maybe Wazzu.

yahtzee

11:29am

You want to leave out Oregon and UW? And take wazzu. Wazzu brings nothing

A Drew Aitch

11:31am

No washington state or Oregon state. They are in trouble and a revenue negative

johnnybyu

11:37am

That’s perfect. Those two programs don’t add anything.

A Drew Aitch

11:40am

Here’s hoping he’s the “wartime consigliere” the conference needs.

BluesBrother

11:22am

Today's Big 12 expansion theory day. Here's my scenario

fbguru

11:17am

If ACC invites WV, GOR is kaput and Clemson/FSU/Miami bail

RGGeemer

11:19am

I didn't know that. Yeah, they won't invite West Virginia then.

fbguru

11:21am

BIG Ten Source thinks the Rose Bowl is pointless. Doesn't care if it dies.

CougarTailDevourer

11:17am

Wasn’t the rose bowl making unreasonable demands regarding the playoff.

Bluedomination

11:19am

I mean after being forced to win last year I think the price was too high for the B1G

WP17

11:21am

Hold the Big 10 Championship in the Rose Bowl.

Art Director

11:22am

"Literally nuking" it? Do words mean anything anymore?

Gustav

11:24am

Litally certainly does not

fulano

11:27am

LOL agree but the pac 12 thought they needed to protect and voted against playof

johnnybyu

11:25am

It becomes a playoff bowl permanently

CougarCanuck76

11:27am

You saw with Ohio University's disinterest last year, that for B1G teams, it is

BYUtka

11:33am

Say the Pac-12 survives and its current members don’t leave. Who do they get to join the league?

TCuz Disgraced Rules President

11:14am

SDSU and UC Davis

Turnpike Lane

11:16am

My guess is San Diego St and Fresno State.

Dangerous

11:16am

Long Beach State

Sea Chicken

11:16am

Unlv, sdsu

d-coug

11:17am

SDSU and BSU/UNLV

RGGeemer

11:17am

They can have a conference championship with just 10.

BYUheaven

11:17am

BYU demands double revenue share as the flagship of the Pac12.

RealityCheck

11:18am

Should probably be SDSU/UNLV.

BlueVU

11:19am

Oklahoma State and Baylor.

BlueFever

11:21am

They shoot for Kansas, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Doogal McCougar

11:22am

RE: They shoot for Kansas, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

BlueFever

11:25am

This is why the Big 12 adds AZ schools right now. That guarantees big 12

johnnybyu

11:26am

Aye. Agreed. Take advantage of the instability to grab PAC schools...

Doogal McCougar

11:29am

They've got to try to add Colorado and Utah as well.

BlueFever

11:32am

I don't get Colorado and Utah. Go for recruiting areas, Stanford and Cal?

fbguru

11:34am

If they don't turn their noses up.

BlueFever

11:38am

2-8 Big12 teams.

OPINIONS

11:29am

Mississippi State as got to feel very, very lucky to be where they are. It just

RC Vikings

11:14am

And Purdue, Rutgers, Vandy, Illinois, Indiana, Arkansas, and so on

threezeroeight

11:15am

I wouldnt include Arkansas in that group.

rad dawg

11:17am

I still remember the day they announced they were going to the SEC.

Jeffacka

11:22am

The superconferences are littered with teams who don’t belong there and are only

mannheimadler

11:15am

So many crap schools in teh big 2 leagues. It is why they won't entirely dominate.

Turnpike Lane

11:15am

or Ole Miss, Vandy, Missouri, Indiana, Minnesota, Iowa, Rutgers....

fulano

11:16am

Do you mean Vandy? Pretty much every other SEC school has VERY strong fan support. Vandy puts them all to shame

Unibro

11:16am

Alabama's wins have to come from somewhere. Someone has to lose. That's why they

BlueCoug

11:17am

Anyone know why BYU is not a member of the AAU? Not qualified? Never applied??

rmsenior

11:14am

Not enough research. No medical school. Academic freedom. Undergrad focus.

mannheimadler

11:16am

AAU is basically a cartel that leverages extracting the most money they can

rcbyufan

11:18am

Academic freedom, which means you have to think and act the same.

RealityCheck

11:20am

The irony of "academic freedom"

rcbyufan

11:29am

Board name checks out

icecougar

11:31am

Thanks for the info, and the laugh

rmsenior

11:23am

Medical School is required. Iowa State is getting kicked out of the AAU after being a member for more than 60 years.

YIsForBrigham

11:24am

Looks like the AAU is an elitist group of selective Fed money suckers. Got it.

rmsenior

11:27am

Nebraska got kicked out for being too far from their hospital.

Benfica1

11:30am

This. Their hospital is in Omaha and manages itself as a sort of separate entity

mannheimadler

11:31am

ATL as a trade partner just became a little less likely

Hypnotoad

11:13am

They can flip Holiday or Harkless now though, right?

RdF3

11:14am

Or maybe more likely since they just got another pick. We'll see.

Hypnotoad

11:14am

It’s a lottery protected Kings pick, that is then top 12 and 10 protected so

califcougar

11:18am

Pukes don’t get, or at least the SLC media doesn’t get it.

BYURider

11:13am

UCLA plays in the RoseBowl every year

RGGeemer

11:17am

You know what I ment

BYURider

11:20am

For those who are going or have gone to Stadium of Fire before where do you

RockyBalboa

11:12am

POLL: Do you think the Big12 is being proactive or reactive at this moment with the PAC12's demise?

jrifkin48

11:11am

They probably are all on vacation and will be shocked when return to the office

BigTex

11:16am

Well, they have been bleeding national brands since 2011,

BlueFever

11:30am

Feasibility of ACC trying to add west coast teams?

snowbird

11:10am

The All Coast Conference

Sea Chicken

11:11am

Easier as a pod of 6 teams or so. Then they can play most games in region.

Art Director

11:13am

It’s as feasible as any other arrangement. The logistics would suck for the

russkiejedi

11:41am

Pete Thamel reporting that the PAC-12 still has no clue what’s going on.

TempeCoug

11:09am

I have to give major props to the admin at USC and UCLA. How they were able to

PrimeQuantumDeek

11:10am

Clearly they aren't government officials in DC trying for 15 minutes of fame

jrifkin48

11:12am

Meh, it was done before (see TX and OU).

Benfica1

11:20am

Not really, It got out from Texas A&M. THey had to move their announcement up.

andrewth

11:41am

curious why blindsiding your business partners is a good idea?

Cougarclaw

11:25am

See BYU vs MWC for reference.

RobAdams

11:25am

Or MWC teams leaving the 16 team WAC.

Benfica1

11:37am

RE: Pete Thamel reporting that the PAC-12 still has no clue what’s going

BYUheaven

11:12am

Classic reply

BYUheaven

11:15am

It's deja vu all over again

krindorr

11:17am

Oregon, UDub and AZ schools:

mannheimadler

11:18am

UO, UW… “we’re all in”…

cougarblue

11:24am

ESPNU

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After listening to a bunch of national shows I am quite concerned

Dan Wetzel bringing the heat

Interesting Stanford perspective

About Utah...Knock it off

Utah to the Big XII

USC guy saying yesterday was the last day to announce leaving Pac12 without

Pete Thamel reporting that the PAC-12 still has no clue what’s going on.

If the news of USC initiating this is right — I think there's a good chance

In regards to Stanford, David Locke Stanford alum and connected there

Your reaction gif if Utah goes to the MWC in 2024

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