Yes and Su'a Cravens is a legacy recruit somewhat too...

Apr 29, 2016
7:53:03pm

icecougar All-American

...His grandfather Jack is a BYU alumni and former BYU athlete. I think the coaching staff the last 10 yrs really dug us in a hole with regards to our Polynesian recruiting and legacy.

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EVERY elite Polynesian that doesn't play at BYU is a miss

chazen

4/29/16 12:00pm

I disagree. Some kids are not interested in BYU at all regardless of ethnicity.

Blueto

4/29/16 12:02pm

right and while they all may have relatives that are members, some

smokymountainrain

4/29/16 12:08pm

However, it is worth a try. The worst they can do is say not interested

pappabear246

4/29/16 6:44pm

Cravens was a miss

4/29/16 12:05pm

That won't happen again

YIsForBrigham

4/29/16 12:08pm

Well, you know, Bronco and Co.

Diablo and Doc

4/29/16 12:36pm

What's an even bigger miss is that his family are Ute fans. My Uncle Bill

chazen

4/29/16 2:30pm

Jack Cravens wasn't a Ute though.

Jeffacka

4/29/16 5:04pm

There were a number of Murrieta/Temecula guys on the team

RedlandsCoug

4/29/16 4:21pm

He NEVER wanted anything to do with BYU.

ag4cougs

4/29/16 6:59pm

"Nail chicks" What does that even mean?

slowhiteguy

4/29/16 7:49pm

I think it has something to do with murder maybe?

Dillinger

4/29/16 8:02pm

it's simply not going to happen, though. Yes, i'd like every single

fattycoug

4/29/16 12:06pm

you're right but get a kid or two like that every year or so and they would...

icecougar

4/29/16 7:57pm

According to the official census of those countries, the LDS church is not

Cuyahoga

4/29/16 12:09pm

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say EVERY one is a miss, but I get your point

PapaBill

4/29/16 12:13pm

What if they want to party and nail chicks?

BlueFrog

4/29/16 12:18pm

i love that we say "they knew what it was when they signed up"

smokymountainrain

4/29/16 12:22pm

^ This. Its a pretty normal desire for most dudes, LDS or not. Pretty hard sell

jbonita

4/29/16 12:32pm

Next step is to get a game in Hawaii AND California on the schedule every year

boscatar

4/29/16 12:20pm

You want to go to Hawaii every year?

Iron Coug

4/29/16 12:52pm

I meant 13 games, not 13 home games.

Iron Coug

4/29/16 12:52pm

I would. With the new NCAA rules we can leverage

SJS

4/29/16 2:23pm

I actually meant a game against U of Hawai'i every year, and one IN California

boscatar

4/29/16 2:40pm

By your logic, every member we don't get, regardless of ethnicity, is a miss

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 1:29pm

Here is my point: The top black athletes in the country have zero ties to byu

chazen

4/29/16 2:33pm

^^^This should be the take him point from chazen. It is a valid statement

BYUheaven

4/29/16 2:51pm

there was a lot more substance to his post than just, "hey all polys have lds

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 3:08pm

No doubt. I don't agree with his OP. I do agree with the statement above

BYUheaven

4/29/16 3:14pm

I agree with all of that. Just not the rest of your OP

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 2:56pm

Completely inaccurate post. LDS Church is only the 2nd biggest in Tonga and 3rd

Bunyip

4/29/16 2:15pm

It was reported by the church at one point in time that 60% of Tongans

chazen

4/29/16 2:38pm

So over 50% say they don't even want to identify as LDS but we think its a miss if they don't choose to attend BYU???

OC Coug

4/29/16 4:15pm

Why would having a relative thats mormon make any difference?

Dillinger

4/29/16 2:18pm

BYU can't get every Poly player

shakarocks

4/29/16 2:30pm

Not saying it should get every poly player, but that every poly player is a

chazen

4/29/16 2:40pm

That's a good point

shakarocks

4/29/16 2:45pm

It's not a good point because there will always be a ton of both

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 6:01pm

I agree with this. The OP made it sound like we should be getting every one

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 3:09pm

I'm fine with that. But not getting all of them isn't necessarily a 'miss'

fattycoug

4/29/16 3:58pm

No, they aren't. Snap out of it.

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 4:58pm

I also think you are overestimating the importance religion has in most peoples

Dillinger

4/29/16 2:32pm

"Buckner," "Cravens," "Fairbairn," "Smith-Schuster" and "Stanley"?! No wonder we

PGVikingDad

4/29/16 2:57pm

I wouldn't say they're a miss, but we should go after every top polynesian, yes

Hill4Heisman

4/29/16 3:20pm

Not necessarily

Sumguy

4/29/16 4:26pm

think you're all missing his point

Sale

4/29/16 5:04pm

Ties does not equal legitimate shot. There's this thing called

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 5:49pm

What part of "EVERY elite Polymesian who doesn't play at BYU is a miss" did I misunderstand?

Sumguy

4/29/16 7:01pm

Man, I misspelled Polynesian. Sorry everyone.

Sumguy

4/29/16 7:08pm

I concede that neither of us should have used the term "legitimate"

Sale

4/29/16 7:58pm

Nowhere did he hint just the ones that fit the mold.

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 9:25pm

Crazy train? Looks like the non-Poly arguing with 2 Polys about certain aspects

Sale

4/30/16 2:33pm

Ignore southernfriedcougar. I don't read his responses. Hope he didn't invest

chazen

4/30/16 10:52pm

I'm saying the same thing many others are calling you out on. Get off your horse

southernfriedcougar

5/1/16 9:19am

Haha, no doubt, we got this guy worked up in a tizzy

Sale

5/2/16 3:09pm

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Breaded Hamster

5/2/16 4:39pm

RE: Crazy train? Looks like the non-Poly arguing with 2 Polys about certain

southernfriedcougar

5/1/16 9:34am

Isn't the very simple point here the fact that

southernfriedcougar

5/1/16 9:43am

I'm Poly and what you're saying is spot on!

provodude84606

5/1/16 12:36pm

I think we're pretty close in principle

Sumguy

4/30/16 1:12am

Cravens had strong USC ties. Brynn and Jordan Cameron were Trojans and related.

RedlandsCoug

4/29/16 7:04pm

Jordan, a former Cougar...

icecougar

4/29/16 7:54pm

True, but the Jordan went to USC. Grandpaps went to BYU too

RedlandsCoug

4/29/16 8:17pm

Yes and Su'a Cravens is a legacy recruit somewhat too...

icecougar

4/29/16 7:53pm

The elite Poly kids from California don't have BYU high on

provodude84606

4/29/16 8:36pm

I'll give you this much; elite poly athletes who are lds

provodude84606

4/29/16 8:50pm

I keep thinking this says every *polite Polynesian. I thought well yeah, I

Polecat

4/29/16 10:34pm

I agree

bigjohn

4/30/16 7:43am

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