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Apr 30, 2016
7:43:43am

bigjohn 3rd String

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Cast your net wide and see what we can do. A solid recruiting class at BYU will include some elites and some misses among Polynesian kids.

As you inferred, taking our program to the next level requires both LDS and nonLDS elites. Along with your points, Polynesian kids and their parents are even more intrigued with BYU given our new coaching staff.

Best of success in recruiting to our coaching staff!

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EVERY elite Polynesian that doesn't play at BYU is a miss

chazen

4/29/16 12:00pm

I disagree. Some kids are not interested in BYU at all regardless of ethnicity.

Blueto

4/29/16 12:02pm

right and while they all may have relatives that are members, some

smokymountainrain

4/29/16 12:08pm

However, it is worth a try. The worst they can do is say not interested

pappabear246

4/29/16 6:44pm

Cravens was a miss

g$

4/29/16 12:05pm

That won't happen again

4/29/16 12:08pm

Well, you know, Bronco and Co.

4/29/16 12:36pm

What's an even bigger miss is that his family are Ute fans. My Uncle Bill

chazen

4/29/16 2:30pm

Jack Cravens wasn't a Ute though.

Jeffacka

4/29/16 5:04pm

There were a number of Murrieta/Temecula guys on the team

RedlandsCoug

4/29/16 4:21pm

He NEVER wanted anything to do with BYU.

ag4cougs

4/29/16 6:59pm

"Nail chicks" What does that even mean?

slowhiteguy

4/29/16 7:49pm

I think it has something to do with murder maybe?

Dillinger

4/29/16 8:02pm

it's simply not going to happen, though. Yes, i'd like every single

fattycoug

4/29/16 12:06pm

you're right but get a kid or two like that every year or so and they would...

icecougar

4/29/16 7:57pm

According to the official census of those countries, the LDS church is not

Cuyahoga

4/29/16 12:09pm

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say EVERY one is a miss, but I get your point

PapaBill

4/29/16 12:13pm

What if they want to party and nail chicks?

BlueFrog

4/29/16 12:18pm

i love that we say "they knew what it was when they signed up"

smokymountainrain

4/29/16 12:22pm

^ This. Its a pretty normal desire for most dudes, LDS or not. Pretty hard sell

jbonita

4/29/16 12:32pm

Next step is to get a game in Hawaii AND California on the schedule every year

boscatar

4/29/16 12:20pm

You want to go to Hawaii every year?

Iron Coug

4/29/16 12:52pm

I meant 13 games, not 13 home games.

Iron Coug

4/29/16 12:52pm

I would. With the new NCAA rules we can leverage

SJS

4/29/16 2:23pm

I actually meant a game against U of Hawai'i every year, and one IN California

boscatar

4/29/16 2:40pm

By your logic, every member we don't get, regardless of ethnicity, is a miss

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 1:29pm

Here is my point: The top black athletes in the country have zero ties to byu

chazen

4/29/16 2:33pm

^^^This should be the take him point from chazen. It is a valid statement

BYUheaven

4/29/16 2:51pm

there was a lot more substance to his post than just, "hey all polys have lds

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 3:08pm

No doubt. I don't agree with his OP. I do agree with the statement above

BYUheaven

4/29/16 3:14pm

I agree with all of that. Just not the rest of your OP

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 2:56pm

Completely inaccurate post. LDS Church is only the 2nd biggest in Tonga and 3rd

Bunyip

4/29/16 2:15pm

It was reported by the church at one point in time that 60% of Tongans

chazen

4/29/16 2:38pm

So over 50% say they don't even want to identify as LDS but we think its a miss if they don't choose to attend BYU???

OC Coug

4/29/16 4:15pm

Why would having a relative thats mormon make any difference?

Dillinger

4/29/16 2:18pm

BYU can't get every Poly player

shakarocks

4/29/16 2:30pm

Not saying it should get every poly player, but that every poly player is a

chazen

4/29/16 2:40pm

That's a good point

shakarocks

4/29/16 2:45pm

It's not a good point because there will always be a ton of both

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 6:01pm

I agree with this. The OP made it sound like we should be getting every one

ColonelMustard7

4/29/16 3:09pm

I'm fine with that. But not getting all of them isn't necessarily a 'miss'

fattycoug

4/29/16 3:58pm

No, they aren't. Snap out of it.

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 4:58pm

I also think you are overestimating the importance religion has in most peoples

Dillinger

4/29/16 2:32pm

"Buckner," "Cravens," "Fairbairn," "Smith-Schuster" and "Stanley"?! No wonder we

PGVikingDad

4/29/16 2:57pm

I wouldn't say they're a miss, but we should go after every top polynesian, yes

Hill4Heisman

4/29/16 3:20pm

Not necessarily

Sumguy

4/29/16 4:26pm

think you're all missing his point

Sale

4/29/16 5:04pm

Ties does not equal legitimate shot. There's this thing called

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 5:49pm

What part of "EVERY elite Polymesian who doesn't play at BYU is a miss" did I misunderstand?

Sumguy

4/29/16 7:01pm

Man, I misspelled Polynesian. Sorry everyone.

Sumguy

4/29/16 7:08pm

I concede that neither of us should have used the term "legitimate"

Sale

4/29/16 7:58pm

Nowhere did he hint just the ones that fit the mold.

southernfriedcougar

4/29/16 9:25pm

Crazy train? Looks like the non-Poly arguing with 2 Polys about certain aspects

Sale

4/30/16 2:33pm

Ignore southernfriedcougar. I don't read his responses. Hope he didn't invest

chazen

4/30/16 10:52pm

I'm saying the same thing many others are calling you out on. Get off your horse

southernfriedcougar

5/1/16 9:19am

Haha, no doubt, we got this guy worked up in a tizzy

Sale

5/2/16 3:09pm

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Breaded Hamster

5/2/16 4:39pm

RE: Crazy train? Looks like the non-Poly arguing with 2 Polys about certain

southernfriedcougar

5/1/16 9:34am

Isn't the very simple point here the fact that

southernfriedcougar

5/1/16 9:43am

I'm Poly and what you're saying is spot on!

5/1/16 12:36pm

I think we're pretty close in principle

Sumguy

4/30/16 1:12am

Cravens had strong USC ties. Brynn and Jordan Cameron were Trojans and related.

RedlandsCoug

4/29/16 7:04pm

Jordan, a former Cougar...

icecougar

4/29/16 7:54pm

True, but the Jordan went to USC. Grandpaps went to BYU too

RedlandsCoug

4/29/16 8:17pm

Yes and Su'a Cravens is a legacy recruit somewhat too...

icecougar

4/29/16 7:53pm

The elite Poly kids from California don't have BYU high on

4/29/16 8:36pm

I'll give you this much; elite poly athletes who are lds

4/29/16 8:50pm

I keep thinking this says every *polite Polynesian. I thought well yeah, I

Polecat

4/29/16 10:34pm

I agree

bigjohn

4/30/16 7:43am

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