It's the eye test. Does BYU compete in the trenches like they did vs Wisconsin?

May 2, 2019
12:37:40pm

Ash All-American

That game showed me a lot. Byu was dismantled the year prior by Wisconsin. The O got a little better and the D kept us on most games. We lack depth as always, but the upward trajectory is real.

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Ash

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I love Kalani the person. The record against our rivals is embarrassing though.

theJuice

5/2/19 10:41am

His home record is awful as well.

SpiffCoug

5/2/19 10:44am

This is my biggest beef with Kalani so far. LES used to be a huge advantage and it seems like that has died.

Pimpin4Paradise

5/2/19 10:46am

10-8 home record.

theJuice

5/2/19 12:03pm

7-8 vs FBS opponents, 3-7 the last two years

BYU Fan

5/2/19 12:45pm

ya that is pretty bad.

theJuice

5/2/19 12:50pm

3-7 with loss to UMASS

Coogar2

5/2/19 3:22pm

Bronco was 57-11 at LES. Crotwon was 14-10.

SpiffCoug

5/2/19 1:59pm

So far Crowton was better than Kalani. Ouch

Coogar2

5/2/19 3:22pm

That's not good

2FarGone

5/2/19 2:11pm

Did you prefer Bronco's strategy of losing big against ALL of these opponents? Admittedly Kalani has not been excellent

Pimpin4Paradise

5/2/19 10:45am

Im pretty sure the majority of Broncos losses to Utah were all within one score.

pilot17

5/2/19 10:51am

They were...

LDTemplar

5/2/19 10:58am

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slatecoug

5/2/19 11:38am

Bronco didn't generally lose big to rivals

BYU Fan

5/2/19 10:53am

Revisionist history

RalphWiggam

5/2/19 10:58am

It's not even revisionist history, he's just making stuff up.

BerkeleyCoug

5/2/19 11:24am

Good point.

RalphWiggam

5/2/19 11:51am

Whatabout Bronco POTD 🏆

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

5/2/19 11:06am

Oh, so Kalani's predecessor is off limits when measuring Kalani's effectiveness? That seems weird.

Pimpin4Paradise

5/2/19 11:57am

Should be ‘Kalani’s lack of effectiveness’

Helm Hammerhand

5/2/19 1:07pm

Bronco far exceeded what Kalani has accomplished in every single metric

kimdaddy35

5/2/19 1:21pm

But the SOS...and bare cupboards...

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

5/2/19 5:01pm

BYU once scored 28 unanswered points vs Utah.

Left Shark Coug

5/2/19 11:12am

A better trajectory?

Blue Cat

5/2/19 11:12am

A little early for day drinking, but you do you.

Sid Vicious

5/2/19 11:16am

KS hasn't even been poor. He aspires to poor.

coolblue

5/2/19 12:12pm

When was the last time Kalani scored 28 unanswered against a rival?

theJuice

5/2/19 12:41pm

Not a good idea to compare Kalani against Bronco. Bronco is better the last two

Coogar2

5/2/19 1:17pm

Yes, I'd love for BYU to consistently win home games first, then local teams....

Benfica1

5/2/19 10:48am

There is hope. The roster was pretty young the past 2 years.

Richbyu

5/2/19 11:09am

You have to realize - Kalani is not a good coach

TeeKaa

5/2/19 11:14am

IIRC, BYU was only favored in one of those 8 losses. In fact, in most BYU wasn't expected to even have a chance

slatecoug

5/2/19 11:40am

The reason we are not expected to win is another reflection of the poor quality

here's to hoping

5/2/19 12:22pm

It has more to do with the caliber of players within the program he inherited

slatecoug

5/2/19 3:15pm

BUT BUT BUT that first year we had Taysom, JW, and Kai!

GOR

5/2/19 9:27pm

Yep. BYU was having to heavily rely on a lot of underclassmen that second year, including many true freshmen

slatecoug

5/3/19 10:27am

Do you honestly believe that a Sr. Hill/Sr. Williams team under Anae would

here's to hoping

5/3/19 11:34pm

Heisman Candidate?

BOOHOLE

5/4/19 12:59am

Yes. I do. I think the only loss I could confidently turn to a win is UCLA.

GOR

5/4/19 9:40am

The 2016 defense was more aggressive with Tuiaki and turned teams over as a

puntersarepeople

5/4/19 9:47am

Bronco-recruited teams were able to follow the general rule I suggested while

here's to hoping

5/3/19 11:27pm

Even when USU is 11-2 and has their best year ever?

puntersarepeople

5/2/19 9:33pm

There may be exceptions, but 1-8 against rivals is not following the general

here's to hoping

5/3/19 11:18pm

So even Vegas knows that USU is better than BYU

Coogar2

5/2/19 1:12pm

They also had BYU beating Cal and losing to WI.

Benfica1

5/2/19 1:17pm

That is a very weak attempt at a counterpoint.

slatecoug

5/2/19 3:16pm

Everyone in Ogden believes USU will beat BYU

Coogar2

5/2/19 3:19pm

That is your point. Then clearly they know nothing about football either

slatecoug

5/2/19 3:24pm

atleast we beat Wisconsin.

Byu_realist101

5/2/19 11:47am

I'm not a Kalani defender, but TBF those teams were all better than BYU.

vagabonder

5/2/19 11:54am

TBF, the reason those teams were better is because of poor coaching.

here's to hoping

5/2/19 12:24pm

Since when was it OK for USU to be better than BYU. It ain't OK

Coogar2

5/2/19 1:12pm

LOL, the reason they are clearly better is in large part due to our coach!

kimdaddy35

5/2/19 1:23pm

Exactly

Coogar2

5/2/19 3:20pm

It’s not the 80’s anymore. Adjust your expectations and you’ll be fine.

BOOHOLE

5/2/19 12:12pm

I don't think we are above them. But I also don't want to believe we are below

theJuice

5/2/19 12:16pm

We were above them...

BOOHOLE

5/2/19 12:20pm

It certainly hasn't been since the eighties since we were "above" Utah St.

here's to hoping

5/2/19 12:27pm

This will be a make or break year.

coastcat

5/2/19 12:20pm

I think people forget how much work Kalani and Tuiaki have done to try and

FanofBYU

5/2/19 12:22pm

I don't know that our record this year will be indicative of improvement though,

theJuice

5/2/19 12:28pm

It's the eye test. Does BYU compete in the trenches like they did vs Wisconsin?

Ash

5/2/19 12:37pm

Until we played the other UW: Washington.

Brigham

5/2/19 12:50pm

Yeah well that team had the skill players as well. Wisky didn't have that.

Ash

5/2/19 12:52pm

How would you compare this schedule to 2015?

BYU Fan

5/2/19 12:39pm

6-6 is my predictions (5-7 is realistic as well).

BOOHOLE

5/2/19 12:42pm

6-6 is reasonable. 7-5 is good. 8-4 is outstanding warranting hoisting Kalani

FanofBYU

5/2/19 1:27pm

Bronco didn't do BYU many favors with regard to OLine and DLine talent prior

Richbyu

5/2/19 12:41pm

We also had no development behind senior skill players

GOR

5/2/19 9:30pm

This year will tell the story better than the last 3.

BleedBlueBlood

5/2/19 12:26pm

This is the year to judge what he can do. No more excuses

Dr T-bone

5/2/19 12:57pm

Under KS, the team is having a hard time “staying woke” and “protecting LaVell’s

Run-DMT

5/2/19 2:06pm

What does "staying woke" mean in relation to football?

2FarGone

5/2/19 2:13pm

Is one of their key goals really, "staying woke?" Lol if true.

doups3

5/2/19 2:29pm

Ya it is. And it is truly hilarious. Great question.

theJuice

5/2/19 3:04pm

They only set these goals last year I believe

puntersarepeople

5/2/19 3:10pm

the manner of some of these losses has been tough to swallow

Hill4Heisman

5/2/19 2:39pm

He gets one more year in my book to determine where he'll take the program.

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