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Which BYU FB players would start for Utah?
jackryanslc
5/14/19 7:33am
QB, multiple OL, at least Tonga on the DL, likely both Kafusi’s at
specsauce
5/14/19 7:38am
Agree except Huntley would start over Wilson.
Dangerous
5/14/19 7:40am
Maybe at Utah because the coaching staff refuses to throw, but Wilson is
specsauce
5/14/19 7:42am
Why?
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 7:45am
because they would go with the seasoned senior, not the sophomore
BlueFrog
5/14/19 8:06am
I’d go with the seasoned sophomore
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 8:34am
i'm sure you would. but you aren't the coach of utah
BlueFrog
5/14/19 9:09am
Who knows what he’d do. Do any of us? It’s not like he’s a qb genius
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 9:17am
Has Whittingham ever started an underclassman over a returning senior starter? we can go off precedent to
BlueFrog
5/14/19 9:39am
good Question. Not sure
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 9:40am
Whit has actually been aggreessive with starting young QBs over experienced QBs.
Scratch
5/14/19 9:43am
Good point
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 9:44am
Huntley started over a returning senior
CrimsonCardinal
5/14/19 10:12am
No, Wilson is better
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:20am
Why would you say Huntley is equal as a passer?
jdub
5/14/19 10:38am
You are right. Wilson has significantly better stats in all areas of passing
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:48am
Yes. He started Huntley over Troy Williams just two years ago.
Jdoc
5/14/19 12:52pm
you do realize that zach wilson's first choice was utah but utah didn't take him
Byu_realist101
5/14/19 9:58am
Either did BYU at first
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:02am
And the guy that Utah wanted didn't last more than a month. Says more about Utah coaches than anything else.
kccougar
5/14/19 2:24pm
the kid wanted instant playing time, he was one of the top recuits in cali and..
Byu_realist101
5/14/19 3:50pm
We will see soon enough what he will do.
ochobeeguy
5/14/19 9:59am
We already saw. He played Utah in slc extremely well
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:02am
as a true freshman
Rise Against
5/14/19 10:05am
And lost, blowing a 20 point lead.
CrimsonCardinal
5/14/19 10:18am
He blew the lead? 🙂
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:21am
You guys have been fun this whole thread. Thanks for the comedy
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:22am
Someone's got to provide a dose of reality here.
CrimsonCardinal
5/14/19 10:29am
Still looking for that person
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 10:36am
Our true freshman outperformed your freshman, by a lot.
Rise Against
5/14/19 10:40am
Hardly
CrimsonCardinal
5/14/19 11:04am
Actually yes by a lot
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 11:13am
And Shelley didn't start doing anything until we'd lost our two best defenders
Cougar76
5/14/19 4:04pm
You know Wilson doesn't play defense, right?
jdub
5/14/19 10:39am
True
CrimsonCardinal
5/14/19 10:47am
Take it outside. I was talking about Jason Shelley
ochobeeguy
5/14/19 2:57pm
Because KWhitt would have turned him into a safety
UberDeek
5/14/19 8:28am
They would because of his experience but talent wise not a chance.
Ash
5/14/19 8:56am
i'm not sure on linebacker. they have bernard and the transfer from Penn St
BlueFrog
5/14/19 8:07am
This is true. I’d forgotten about the PSU transfer.
specsauce
5/14/19 11:46am
Isaiah Kaufusi is a better linebacker than Bernard ever was
donnerstag
5/14/19 12:00pm
stats don't back that up one bit
BlueFrog
5/14/19 3:16pm
Isaiah has better measurables and was more productive as a starter
donnerstag
5/14/19 3:28pm
what are you basing your decision on? opinion or stats? and what measurables?
BlueFrog
5/14/19 3:38pm
Kaufusi is 2 inches taller and is faster
donnerstag
5/14/19 4:02pm
Kaufusi is maybe 205 lbs. that's better measurables for a linebacker? our high school MLB is currently 6'2 225
BlueFrog
5/14/19 9:17pm
less prototypical? now you are just talking out your butt. i think you made up those stats too. lame
BlueFrog
5/14/19 9:23pm
Prototypical linebackers are 6'1" to 6'3"
donnerstag
5/14/19 10:29pm
ha. so now he has potential to be prototypical? and he only had 3 games total over 5 tackles. you're making stuff up
BlueFrog
5/15/19 6:46am
Kaufusi only has 5 career starts where he played the whole game
donnerstag
5/15/19 6:59am
Ha. now it is projects better to the nfl? man you are a king goal post mover. And 6 starts
BlueFrog
5/15/19 7:38am
Bernard was very inconsistent
cougarmanguy
5/14/19 3:41pm
Tonga doesn't start over Fotu and Penisini, but he'd be the first rotation guy.
displacedute
5/14/19 6:42pm
Huntley over Wilson? Why?
puntersarepeople
5/14/19 6:48pm
Why Wilson over Huntley
CrimsonCardinal
5/14/19 7:22pm
What has Huntley done in his big wins?
puntersarepeople
5/14/19 8:51pm
RE: What has Huntley done in his big wins?
whitey1980
5/14/19 9:24pm
Lol! He has several big wins where he was lights out.
Jdoc
5/14/19 10:40pm
RE: Huntley over Wilson? Why?
displacedute
5/14/19 10:14pm
Bushman, Tonga, Oldroyd/Southam, Hoge, Empey, Christensen, MLP, Kaufusi, Dayan
donnerstag
5/14/19 7:42am
MLP? where'd that come from?
Lip Gallagher
5/14/19 9:46am
Utah's leading tight end had 74 yards receiving in 2018
donnerstag
5/14/19 10:21am
huh? that is inaccurate. Where did you get that number?
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 10:26am
The depth chart I looked at was apparently for 2018
donnerstag
5/14/19 10:40am
Huh? Utah had 2 TEs with more yards than MLP, and both with a lot more than 74.
Scratch
5/14/19 10:27am
There isn't anything to discuss about Bushman
donnerstag
5/14/19 10:42am
Not even close. He's a receiver, that's it. He's a very good recevier, but you
Scratch
5/14/19 10:55am
That is false
donnerstag
5/14/19 11:24am
Bushman would be the best player on Utah’s offense except Moss
puntersarepeople
5/14/19 3:16pm
You should watch BYU more and you'd know.
Lip Gallagher
5/14/19 4:17pm
As a TE receiver, maybe
D.T. Survivor
5/14/19 11:12am
It's not a maybe
donnerstag
5/14/19 11:23am
I agree with you. But as a complete TE, I don’t think he’s top 10 yet.
D.T. Survivor
5/14/19 7:01pm
Some of the NFL draft lists has him as a top 5 TE
donnerstag
5/14/19 7:12pm
That’s interesting, good for him. Where are you seeing this?
Scratch
5/14/19 7:14pm
Walter Football is pretty consistent with their rankings and
Lip Gallagher
5/14/19 7:25pm
Good for him. That’s very telling, thanks.
Scratch
5/14/19 7:31pm
Wow that’s awesome. I think he’ll have a breakout year with Wilson
D.T. Survivor
5/14/19 10:31pm
That's incorrect. Fotheringham is pretty good. But he's not Bushman
Lip Gallagher
5/14/19 10:57am
That's definitely true, as they are very different players. TE is a very tough
Scratch
5/14/19 11:03am
CB praises incoming transfers...
BOOHOLE
5/14/19 11:16am
TBH, pretty sure that is mostly true of any fanbase
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 11:17am
Utah fans acted that way, when we lost Tuttle- and then ended up getting Cam Rising.
whitey1980
5/14/19 5:25pm
That’s not just a CB thing. I see Ute fans do it a lot too.
D.T. Survivor
5/14/19 10:32pm
We don’t need a lot of the guys that are leaving
puntersarepeople
5/15/19 6:50am
Any of our starters, all of our starters
2FarGone
5/14/19 7:44am
This ^^^^
ChurroNieves
5/14/19 10:42am
All of them could probably start.
Benfica1
5/14/19 7:46am
Zach Wilson (if healthy), Jaren Hall.
smokymountainrain
5/14/19 7:55am
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 8:36am
RE: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2FarGone
5/14/19 8:44am
Pardon my french but you can go to hell
monkeycowboy
5/14/19 8:45am
am I wrong though?
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 9:12am
You are saying what others are saying, though very childishly. So yes.
HenderCoug
5/14/19 9:14am
How many guys on BYUs roster did Utah go after? Heck Francis Bernard has stared at both. Its a clown statement dude
monkeycowboy
5/14/19 9:18am
the fact that Bernard started at both proves my point about him
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 10:06am
They go after many of the same players dude... The same talent starts at both. The better talent doesnt always end up
monkeycowboy
5/14/19 10:24am
I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that there isn't anyone I can see
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 10:39am
The same talent starts at both? I don't know if I agree with that
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 10:45am
I think BYU has historically had an advantage at recruiting QB's. Not really debatable. And that has continued since
whitey1980
5/14/19 5:49pm
Yes you are wrong. Francis Bernard proved that.
slatecoug
5/14/19 9:21am
Bernard didn't start the season as a starter. Hansen and Barton were a dynamic duo. But yes, Bernard is very good.
whitey1980
5/14/19 5:54pm
You must not know football
JKLCoug
5/14/19 9:35am
Tonga is very good, but I'm not sure he'd start. He wasn't even on the field
Scratch
5/14/19 9:44am
He suffers from the s-l-o-w syndrome. Needs to get to about 275 or 280.
Bullrider
5/14/19 9:48am
Uh, Tonga is not slow and why in the world would he drop to that weight?
Lip Gallagher
5/14/19 9:54am
yeah, 280 is ridiculous
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 10:00am
you must not know Utah's players or it's scheme very well (a forgivable offense)
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 9:45am
Oh, where do I start....
Heinz57
5/14/19 1:09pm
Like I said, there are a handful of players that would be
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 1:16pm
Let's go back in history
Heinz57
5/14/19 1:29pm
No, you were spot on
chazen
5/14/19 11:34am
first, i don't want you to go to hell because you are funny. it's unintentional,
smokymountainrain
5/14/19 12:26pm
How am I wrong about the qbs?
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 12:55pm
Wilson is better by every measure. QBR, PER, Wilson is the better QB.
smokymountainrain
5/14/19 1:01pm
He may very well be
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 1:03pm
You are wrong about your DB stats
tmurphey44
5/14/19 2:37pm
That talent gap though. Getting those blowout wins year after year.
stev
5/14/19 8:51am
Maybe not locks, but all could start. The main issue is depth.
Benfica1
5/14/19 8:55am
all? ALL? haha!
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 9:06am
I think Hoge would almost certainly start.
Scratch
5/14/19 9:10am
I can't tell you how much I love this line...
Eddie
5/14/19 9:11am
you know exactly what I meant
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 9:14am
Let's look at some of those articles, now that you've mentioned it...
Eddie
5/14/19 9:40am
you go on ahead and keep beating that drum
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 10:54am
Ty’son Williams is all world before setting foot on campus
BOOHOLE
5/14/19 11:11am
What drum do you think I'm beating?
Eddie
5/14/19 1:05pm
Um...
BOOHOLE
5/14/19 10:21am
Are you sure you're a BYU fan?
Eddie
5/14/19 1:33pm
I am...
BOOHOLE
5/14/19 2:33pm
I understand not wanting to drink the kool aid.
Eddie
5/14/19 2:40pm
You certainly don't 'drink the Kool Aid', you figuratively shovel manure
Benfica1
5/14/19 2:46pm
Yep. Players can be replaceable. I'm guessing you've never coached before.
Benfica1
5/14/19 9:14am
You're a moron that has serious yewt goggles. You honestly think Takitaki
Rise Against
5/14/19 9:18am
did you read my post? I pretty much conceded that he may have
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 9:23am
Yeah, I read it. You said, "Takitaki may not have started".
Rise Against
5/14/19 9:36am
saying may not leaves open the possibility of the alternative does it not?
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 12:04pm
You're wrong. They also loved his ability in coverage. He has the speed
Rise Against
5/14/19 12:13pm
I never said he was just situational, I said he was better in that respect
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 12:20pm
Man Ute fans are so annoying. Get off our board please. (asking nicely)
BountifulCoug5
5/14/19 12:27pm
Hey look, it's a troll!
Machiavelli
5/14/19 8:59am
Michael Davis started for the Chargers and played in the playoffs
D.T. Survivor
5/14/19 9:02am
He can and has played good ball. He rated out as one of the top nickels in CFB.
Scratch
5/14/19 9:11am
Byu whooped on Utah's nickels last year. Those were the guys constantly giving
Lip Gallagher
5/14/19 9:56am
And KS benched him. Go figure.
coolblue
5/14/19 3:33pm
I would like to hear what your yewt compadres think on this topic
CLCougar
5/14/19 9:54am
Dsvis. Recent BYU CB Los Angeles Chargers
CarolinaCoug
5/14/19 10:02am
You are greatly OVERestimating the talent gap. Step off your Ute pedestal.
DraperCoug22
5/14/19 10:09am
lol. jaren hall starts over huntley.
smokymountainrain
5/14/19 12:24pm
Haha, what proof do you have that Jaren is
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 12:56pm
How many PAC-12 championships do you have?
BountifulCoug5
5/14/19 1:38pm
this is the most truth I've read in the whole thread. hes right about it all...
Byu_realist101
5/14/19 1:59pm
None of them. They all prefer BYU.
Eddie
5/14/19 9:03am
Hey Ohhhhh!
Nagurski
5/14/19 9:35am
well, that's kind of the problem with these hypotheticals
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 9:37am
What Utah players would start for BYU?
ausgezeichnet
5/14/19 9:29am
Posts like these are great because they always expose the closet Utes!
cougarnw
5/14/19 10:14am
Most of Utes here have already come out of the closet.
jdub
5/14/19 10:41am
Let’s not jab when one of our own came out on his commencement speech
BOOHOLE
5/14/19 11:13am
pretty sure he wasn't talking about that sort of closet
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 11:16am
The patheticness of Utes being on CB never ceases to amaze me.
DraperCoug22
5/14/19 12:09pm
Patheticness? Nice!
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 12:13pm
Patheticism. Patheticness. Patheticality. Pick one and it fits the bill.
DraperCoug22
5/14/19 12:15pm
Haha I'm giving you a hard time. But honestly,
DraperCoug22
5/14/19 12:45pm
Where would BYU fans troll?
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 12:57pm
Maybe that's part of the point haha. BYU fans built their own place
DraperCoug22
5/14/19 1:23pm
there is one, no not utahutes.net or whatever
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 1:27pm
So what you're saying is, this community is far more sophisticated and engaging
DraperCoug22
5/14/19 2:53pm
Is it like Narnia... you get there through the back of an armoire?
Cully
5/14/19 4:12pm
Just ask yourself - which crowd would YOU rather hang out with?
Eddie
5/14/19 1:43pm
Honest truth.
DocPimp
5/14/19 7:50pm
How many Aggies would start at BYU?
Truerblue
5/14/19 10:51am
Honestly I don’t think we want to even start down that path
USMCdad
5/14/19 10:56am
How many UVU bball players would start for BYU? About to find out!
cougarnw
5/14/19 11:01am
Now THAT is funny
chinngiskhaan
5/14/19 11:02am
Both funny and sad
j20
5/14/19 11:42am
Bushman, Empey, Hoge, Christensen, Tonga, I. Kaufusi, Lake.
pinolero
5/14/19 12:43pm
I can see some of those guys starting
Tj_utefan
5/14/19 11:08pm
I thought about that with Lee but he left Utah 3 years ago. He's much better now
pinolero
5/14/19 11:14pm
We'll have to agree to disagree on Lee
Tj_utefan
5/15/19 6:56am
RE: Which BYU FB players would start for Utah?
jackryanslc
5/14/19 1:42pm
Not really a great way to compare. Too much variation in scheme and style of pla
puntersarepeople
5/14/19 3:18pm
As if any fans would know.
Archaea
5/14/19 3:51pm
I would take Wilson over Huntley
zerome4sooners
5/14/19 3:54pm
Anyone would
puntersarepeople
5/14/19 6:03pm
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