To me it comes down to OL and DL play even more

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Jul 12, 2019
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BYU vs G5 bowl eligible teams under Kalani Sitake

BYU Fan

7/12/19 9:52am

How does that align with historical BYU results?

Indy Coug

7/12/19 9:54am

You're the man to ask about that but I have to think pretty poorly

BYU Fan

7/12/19 9:57am

I checked 2001-2004 & 2005-2007 as well

BYU Fan

7/12/19 11:06am

Thoughts: 1) Bronco is a better coach than Kalani;

a priori

7/12/19 9:55am

Agreed. Why wouldn't a coaching staff that's been together for years be better

SUAVO

7/12/19 10:01am

Bronco was a new head coach and had a new staff once too.

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:03am

And his first 5 years were amazing

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:05am

Not saying that Kalani is a better coach, but why compare the last 5 years

SUAVO

7/12/19 10:23am

Bronco's first years would be even more of a discrepancy but the last years

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:26am

Still not surprising

SUAVO

7/12/19 10:28am

Because you agree that Bronco is a better coach?

a priori

7/12/19 10:30am

IMO Bronco has been the better consistently good coach but

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:32am

"Kalani may have a higher ceiling" just means he hasn't retired/been fired/etc

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:41am

RE: "Kalani may have a higher ceiling" just means he hasn't retired/been

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:51am

That's fine but it's also the only time BYU finished ranked 4 straight years

BYU Fan

7/12/19 11:10am

RE: That's fine but it's also the only time BYU finished ranked 4 straight years

ManicBlue

7/12/19 12:08pm

Not really. It’s more of an evaluation of how he runs things

puntersarepeople

7/12/19 1:21pm

I agree with this, but the first few years have not given me reason to be

a priori

7/12/19 10:43am

We know he has a lower floor.

coolblue

7/12/19 12:43pm

Bronco's teams went 11-3 vs G5 bowl eligible teams his first 3 years

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:45am

And Gary Crowton's teams went 7-9 his first 3 years

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:52am

I used 2013-2015 because they were the most recent years

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:34am

But he had been at BYU as a DC. Kalani had not coached

PessimisticCB

7/12/19 10:58am

Kalani played at BYU though. I'd call it a wash.

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:59am

When he played at BYU it was completely different.

PessimisticCB

7/12/19 11:01am

Regardless, he wasn't starting from scratch and Bronco had to deal with

ManicBlue

7/12/19 9:56pm

Bronco's job was harder. He brought the program back from the brink of death.

a priori

7/12/19 11:00am

Bronco also had the luxury of playing in a conference where the G5 teams were familiar to him and the staff.

TheLoneCougar

7/12/19 10:08am

That goes both ways. Teams were more familiar with us too.

D.T. Survivor

7/12/19 10:36am

That's true

TheLoneCougar

7/12/19 11:19am

Coaching staff cohesiveness/experience, player experience, a good QB

SUAVO

7/12/19 9:59am

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puntersarepeople

7/12/19 10:04am

Past results are interesting but I expect this year's team is better than the

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:04am

I sure hope so - the status quo may lead to a 4 or 5 win season

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:08am

True but Kalani does have 2 yrs left on his contract so I doubt he'd be let go

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:16am

BYU needs him to succeed but results need to improve on the field

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:26am

To me it comes down to QB play

CaliWG

7/12/19 10:05am

To me it comes down to OL and DL play even more

ManicBlue

7/12/19 10:08am

This. If I were to point to one reason why we've been so mediocre during indy,

Cougar76

7/12/19 10:13am

Agree with both. Given a solid O line QB is critical for both college and Pros.

Refugee

7/12/19 10:21am

Sounds right. We've been below average and are losing to above-average teams.

vagabonder

7/12/19 10:08am

QB Play. 2014 was by far Taysom's best season accuracy wise, which is why

Ash

7/12/19 10:25am

Taysom was 6-2 while Tanner was 5-3 as a starter in these games

BYU Fan

7/12/19 10:31am

Our offense has been below average and coaching

D.T. Survivor

7/12/19 10:39am

Digging for silver linings the last couple yrs will only end with more crap on

Mr. Scoobs

7/12/19 11:20am

RE: BYU vs G5 bowl eligible teams under Kalani Sitake

blu76

7/12/19 12:13pm

There are some teams it’s evident their talent is much greater

D.T. Survivor

7/12/19 12:37pm

RE: BYU vs G5 bowl eligible teams under Kalani Sitake

CougarThug

7/12/19 1:13pm

That's why I don't put too much stock in "P5" & "G5". A good team is a good team

andrewg3

7/12/19 1:14pm

So this season we play 5 good-great G5 teams.

bigbossbyu

7/12/19 1:17pm

I was leaning towards 7-5 as well until I saw how poorly we've done lately

BYU Fan

7/12/19 1:24pm

RE: I was leaning towards 7-5 as well until I saw how poorly we've done lately

hammergm

7/12/19 2:32pm

Except he hasn’t really shown the ability to recruit or develop talent well.

bigbossbyu

7/12/19 3:16pm

I've been thinking about talent

BYU Fan

7/12/19 3:55pm

#extendKalaniandTom

Gerald-DeGroot

7/12/19 1:23pm

RE: BYU vs G5 bowl eligible teams under Kalani Sitake

hammergm

7/12/19 1:59pm

I'm very curious to see what happens with the trajectory this year

BYU Fan

7/12/19 2:15pm

The way Holmoe has set this up the schedule

hammergm

7/12/19 2:40pm

After averaging a 33 finish for over a decade, a 112 finish and a 63 finish last

Mr. Scoobs

7/12/19 2:35pm

Ignorant comment scoobs

hammergm

7/12/19 2:45pm

I'm literally posting data based on actual results.

Mr. Scoobs

7/12/19 3:05pm

Scoobs just comes on here to rip on BYU Football.

PessimisticCB

7/12/19 4:42pm

And this is coming from a guy that has Pessimistic in his name.

PessimisticCB

7/12/19 4:43pm

Bringing facts and data to the discussion shouldn’t be seen as a biased

Mr. Scoobs

7/12/19 4:47pm

Mediocrity is the only result after a terrible team

puntersarepeople

7/12/19 9:49pm

“Let it play out before you make a decision”

Mr. Scoobs

7/12/19 9:59pm

Improvement did happen. It just needs to continue

puntersarepeople

7/12/19 10:41pm

And this is where I disagree.. a 63 finish is still very far away

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