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Oct 1, 2019
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cougaman
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Average by what mark? They are well below average from what they should be given
their talent and resources. UCLA is a BAD team. Yes, they managed to beat Washington State, that doesn't change from the fact that they are legitimately bad.
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I think if we hadn't beaten USC
byukarl
10/1/19 7:58am
I'm glad we beat USC. Those expectations are good and part of being a fan, especially a BYU fan. If we
Bert609
10/1/19 8:01am
I think BYU caught USC at the perfect moment. They had a rookie QB on the road
mudpupper
10/1/19 8:02am
I think their 3rd string guy would have torched us
letthewookiewin
10/1/19 8:04am
I said this a week after the game and I got torched...huge difference with true Frosh on the road....
Bonoman
10/1/19 8:14am
Fink is much more inclined to just throw it up to their nfl receivers all game, which would’ve been more effective vs us
LifelongAP
10/1/19 9:37am
Yeah, if their "third string" qb went against us, we lose that game. The kid that played against us made some bad
indocoug
10/1/19 10:28am
Ug. USC played their best option at the time... same QB that carved up Stanford.
Benfica1
10/1/19 10:35am
Yeah, I was hoping USC was a turning point because
Doctor Rosenrosen
10/1/19 8:02am
Losing Ty'son hurt our offense and was a big difference. That, plus the early
califcougar
10/1/19 8:07am
Esukpa is still a good RB. He wasn't used effectively by the coaches vs Toledo
Richbyu
10/1/19 8:09am
Correct: Esukpa only had 12 carries and he averaged 5.1 YPC. Katoa had only 4
BerkeleyCoug
10/1/19 8:13am
His 5.1 ypc is a misleading stat. It's padded by two big runs where he had big
BYUMizzou
10/1/19 8:23am
Put another way, an offense needs to gain an average of 3.33 yards per play.
BYUMizzou
10/1/19 8:26am
unless the refs are Pac12 refs and they're spotting the ball at 3 yds each time...
icecougar
10/1/19 10:41am
Three of those negative-yardage plays were on those terrible pitch plays. That's
BerkeleyCoug
10/1/19 8:27am
RE: Three of those negative-yardage plays were on those terrible pitch plays.
BYUMizzou
10/1/19 8:28am
yes, big runs are bad and we should be trying to avoid them, not encouraging them.
icecougar
10/1/19 10:39am
Ty’son makes no difference on outcome. The running backs were both avg over 5
Nakedbootleg
10/1/19 8:12am
I think he would have made a difference on the third and short plays. He is
Dangerous
10/1/19 8:19am
Esukpa should be used for runs up the middle. He's a power RB.
Richbyu
10/1/19 8:24am
Your last point is spot on. "not being excited to be there" is a poor athlete
Resurgens
10/1/19 1:34pm
USC raised expectations. Toledo plunged them below reality. This is an OK team.
Benfica1
10/1/19 8:18am
OK?
Chester Copperpot
10/1/19 8:25am
Excellent, Great, Good, Average, OK, Bad. They are Average/OK at this point.
Benfica1
10/1/19 8:26am
Go look at the O and D rankings. BYU is bad.
Chester Copperpot
10/1/19 8:42am
Bad teams don't beat USC and TN. They are below average as a team.
Benfica1
10/1/19 9:13am
Tennessee is a bad team. It took a miracle last second FG 2 OT to beat them.
cougaman
10/1/19 11:12am
Yes, and?
Benfica1
10/1/19 12:19pm
BYU is a bad team. I thought I covered that.
cougaman
10/1/19 12:24pm
And you'd be wrong. They are an average/slightly below average team.
Benfica1
10/1/19 12:26pm
Average by what mark? They are well below average from what they should be given
cougaman
10/1/19 12:38pm
BYU is 2-3 (below average as I stated). UCLA is 1-4 (bad)
Benfica1
10/1/19 1:52pm
Im arguing that BYU is worse than an average team. They are not well coached and
cougaman
10/1/19 2:34pm
Any given Saturday
Byu_1988
10/1/19 11:08am
What Toledo demonstrates is how valuable superior coaching can be. Their staff
jkccoug
10/1/19 11:30am
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Colorado
10/1/19 12:03pm
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