I'm glad we beat USC. Those expectations are good and part of being a fan, especially a BYU fan. If we

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Oct 1, 2019
8:01:09am

Bert609 All-American

had lost to USC, I probably wouldn't have even watched/listened to Toledo at all. Maybe checked the box score.

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I think if we hadn't beaten USC

byukarl

10/1/19 7:58am

I'm glad we beat USC. Those expectations are good and part of being a fan, especially a BYU fan. If we

Bert609

10/1/19 8:01am

I think BYU caught USC at the perfect moment. They had a rookie QB on the road

mudpupper

10/1/19 8:02am

I think their 3rd string guy would have torched us

letthewookiewin

10/1/19 8:04am

I said this a week after the game and I got torched...huge difference with true Frosh on the road....

Bonoman

10/1/19 8:14am

Fink is much more inclined to just throw it up to their nfl receivers all game, which would’ve been more effective vs us

LifelongAP

10/1/19 9:37am

Yeah, if their "third string" qb went against us, we lose that game. The kid that played against us made some bad

indocoug

10/1/19 10:28am

Ug. USC played their best option at the time... same QB that carved up Stanford.

Benfica1

10/1/19 10:35am

Yeah, I was hoping USC was a turning point because

Doctor Rosenrosen

10/1/19 8:02am

Losing Ty'son hurt our offense and was a big difference. That, plus the early

califcougar

10/1/19 8:07am

Esukpa is still a good RB. He wasn't used effectively by the coaches vs Toledo

Richbyu

10/1/19 8:09am

Correct: Esukpa only had 12 carries and he averaged 5.1 YPC. Katoa had only 4

BerkeleyCoug

10/1/19 8:13am

His 5.1 ypc is a misleading stat. It's padded by two big runs where he had big

BYUMizzou

10/1/19 8:23am

Put another way, an offense needs to gain an average of 3.33 yards per play.

BYUMizzou

10/1/19 8:26am

unless the refs are Pac12 refs and they're spotting the ball at 3 yds each time...

icecougar

10/1/19 10:41am

Three of those negative-yardage plays were on those terrible pitch plays. That's

BerkeleyCoug

10/1/19 8:27am

RE: Three of those negative-yardage plays were on those terrible pitch plays.

BYUMizzou

10/1/19 8:28am

yes, big runs are bad and we should be trying to avoid them, not encouraging them.

icecougar

10/1/19 10:39am

Ty’son makes no difference on outcome. The running backs were both avg over 5

Nakedbootleg

10/1/19 8:12am

I think he would have made a difference on the third and short plays. He is

Dangerous

10/1/19 8:19am

Esukpa should be used for runs up the middle. He's a power RB.

Richbyu

10/1/19 8:24am

Your last point is spot on. "not being excited to be there" is a poor athlete

Resurgens

10/1/19 1:34pm

USC raised expectations. Toledo plunged them below reality. This is an OK team.

Benfica1

10/1/19 8:18am

OK?

Chester Copperpot

10/1/19 8:25am

Excellent, Great, Good, Average, OK, Bad. They are Average/OK at this point.

Benfica1

10/1/19 8:26am

Go look at the O and D rankings. BYU is bad.

Chester Copperpot

10/1/19 8:42am

Bad teams don't beat USC and TN. They are below average as a team.

Benfica1

10/1/19 9:13am

Tennessee is a bad team. It took a miracle last second FG 2 OT to beat them.

cougaman

10/1/19 11:12am

Yes, and?

Benfica1

10/1/19 12:19pm

BYU is a bad team. I thought I covered that.

cougaman

10/1/19 12:24pm

And you'd be wrong. They are an average/slightly below average team.

Benfica1

10/1/19 12:26pm

Average by what mark? They are well below average from what they should be given

cougaman

10/1/19 12:38pm

BYU is 2-3 (below average as I stated). UCLA is 1-4 (bad)

Benfica1

10/1/19 1:52pm

Im arguing that BYU is worse than an average team. They are not well coached and

cougaman

10/1/19 2:34pm

Any given Saturday

Byu_1988

10/1/19 11:08am

What Toledo demonstrates is how valuable superior coaching can be. Their staff

jkccoug

10/1/19 11:30am

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