That highly graded OL couldn't be trusted to get a 3rd and 2 push.

Jan 8, 2020
1:51:56pm

Ash All-American

2 straight seasons of OL hype and it's been sad to say the least. They've had impressive performances here and there, but we have plenty of games getting pushed around with ZW running for his life.

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On paper, BYU should start out next season 1-0

LifelongAP Semi-Pro

1/8/20 12:36pm

Are the coaches the same?

CaliWG

1/8/20 12:40pm

And winning

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 1:07pm

At this point I have zero faith they can win a game against them.

eysikal

1/8/20 12:41pm

Looks like uu is in your head as well. Hope that the team can shake it better

Benfica1

1/8/20 1:53pm

100% agree that this is BYU's best chance in a while, and probably its best

Scratch

1/8/20 12:44pm

BYU could win, but Utah's coaching is superior and general overall talent

Archaea

1/8/20 12:55pm

The talent gap is real.

RalphWiggam

1/8/20 12:53pm

Will the inexperience give BYU a chance? That's the question.

Archaea

1/8/20 12:56pm

Not QB. Or TE. LB may be close

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 1:08pm

Umm their TE looks really good.

eysikal

1/8/20 1:14pm

Pretty tough to argue that BYU has more talent at QB or TE.

Scratch

1/8/20 1:21pm

When it comes to depth probably not

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:15pm

So do we just count the number of guys on each roster with that position listed

Scratch

1/8/20 3:30pm

Utah's QB is a three year starter in the SEC who threw for 3,000 yards and 27TD

BrobaFett

1/8/20 1:25pm

I doubt Utah is deeper at both QB and TE

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:12pm

Actually, they don't. Shelley has more experience than those 2 guys combined.

Scratch

1/8/20 3:33pm

Not in depth though

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:39pm

And BYU doesn't have one QB that would start at Utah.

BrobaFett

1/8/20 3:45pm

Wrong. BYUs QBs are younger and better than you think

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 4:10pm

Just awesome. Do you relaize that BYU did lose when Shelley started?

Scratch

1/8/20 4:15pm

BYU is a lot better now and will have a good shot at winning if Shelley plays.

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 6:04pm

Sorry. You’re really not making sense in this thread. And I’m a BYU fan.

Blue Mountains

1/8/20 9:27pm

Not my fault you can’t follow 😉

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 9:49pm

Probably true

Blue Mountains

1/8/20 9:57pm

Utah has three guys who have thrown passes in games, just like the standard

Scratch

1/8/20 3:49pm

Depth was mentioned in the post I commented on

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 4:07pm

As was USC, Tennessee, Wisconson...

Refugee

1/8/20 2:10pm

That's the problem. Utah will take ANYBODY despite criminal history or GPA.

chazen

1/8/20 2:15pm

It's amazing that the NCAA lets Utah get around minimum qualifying requirements.

Scratch

1/8/20 2:33pm

Do they all do the work themselves?

1CougFan

1/8/20 3:33pm

No, sometimes they have them take byu correspondence classes.

BayUte

1/8/20 4:09pm

That's how you guys got Star Lotulelei and a bazillion other players. Star

chazen

1/8/20 11:22pm

Give it up already. Out of high school he couldn’t go ANYWHERE because he didn’t

Scratch

1/9/20 12:01am

Star had 1 option out of HS. BYU as a nonqualifier. I am a little surprised

ALUF 1990

1/9/20 11:37am

No, because BYU wasn't Indy yet, so BYU was in the same boat as Utah at the time

Scratch

1/9/20 11:42am

signed USC & Tennessee

Sale

1/8/20 7:54pm

the good news is BYU starts 0-0, you know, undefeated

run26

1/8/20 1:17pm

Vegas will have us as dogs on paper.

westsidecoug

1/8/20 1:18pm

Nah.

BrobaFett

1/8/20 1:24pm

IF only it was that simple. Cuz if true, Utah never should have won a game in the 90s or 2000s based on that.

Turnpike Lane

1/8/20 1:47pm

Utah was a lot more talented in the 90's and 00's than you admit.

BrobaFett

1/8/20 2:05pm

No, I was just doing the same eval you did. Utah had talent, BYU had more back then overall. But still lost games.

Turnpike Lane

1/8/20 2:21pm

I don't understand your stance.

BrobaFett

1/8/20 3:49pm

????? 2000s Utah put more guys in the NFL. 1990s about equal. Utah went

ALUF 1990

1/9/20 1:11pm

Rising’s never played. SC guy didn’t but play at Utah. Vastly overrated the QBs

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:27pm

When was the last time BYU had a Qb throw for 3,000 yards and 27 TD's?

BrobaFett

1/8/20 3:52pm

And our backup was offered a scholarship there.

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 4:13pm

Epps was a HS All American at Mater Dei. He offsets a talented freshman CB for

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 4:16pm

Epps? The guy with offers from BYU and a few of the dregs of the MWC will

Scratch

1/8/20 4:23pm

Oregon offered him.

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 5:58pm

After his sophomore year. And then stopped recruiting him shortly thereafter

Scratch

1/8/20 6:33pm

MWC recruit is an inaccurate judgement. Most recruiters said a PAC12 team would

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 9:15pm

Yep. Fantastic high school receiver.

Scratch

1/8/20 9:50pm

And much better recruit than you give him credit for

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 10:02pm

I'm glad you're better at evaluating talent than D-1 coaches. And I do think

Scratch

1/8/20 10:15pm

And yes, Oregon smoked Utah

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 6:04pm

Great post dripping with arrogance and condescencion

teancum

1/9/20 10:03am

Nah, Buffet would be less condescending towards his plumber than this guy's post

OlanchoCoug

1/9/20 11:52am

BYU has some very good TEs behind bushman so

1CougFan

1/9/20 12:11pm

Nope. Whittingham is Utah’s coach and we have Kalani.

arizonacougarfan

1/8/20 1:29pm

And BYU has too many fans like this.

Benfica1

1/8/20 1:54pm

Just the truth there

wilsdad

1/8/20 6:50pm

Kalani is contracted by Utah to lose, so BYU loses

YSeattle

1/8/20 1:34pm

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 9 times in a row, shame on me.

Super Chicken

1/8/20 1:41pm

On paper, BYU should have split the decade with wins vs. the yewties. But . . . .

lightmann

1/8/20 1:46pm

That highly graded OL couldn't be trusted to get a 3rd and 2 push.

Ash

1/8/20 1:51pm

Completely agree. On third and short, throughout the year,

D.T. Survivor

1/8/20 8:05pm

I think you may have missed the news about their grad transfer QB coming in

dchandle15

1/8/20 2:11pm

It’ll Ben his first game playing for Utah. And he’s not duel threat. He may not

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:29pm

Will need to get pressure on him.

1CougFan

1/8/20 3:37pm

Good points, go ahead and expect to lose.

Heath Squashwell

1/8/20 2:28pm

I hope you're right, but

B Blue

1/8/20 5:42pm

After 9 strait loses, I'll believe IF/when I see it...

AntiSNOT

1/8/20 7:16pm

I think you represent a hefty segment of the fanbase in Utah.

wilsdad

1/8/20 8:20pm

Don’t worry, we’ll find a way like we always do.

D.T. Survivor

1/8/20 8:44pm

Better chance than being up by 20 in the 3rd Q?

2FarGone

1/8/20 9:37pm

Impossible. BYU should start out 2-2

kapcreations

1/8/20 11:05pm

I lost you at “ BYU is returning one of the highest pff graded O-Lines”

coldcoug

1/9/20 12:22am

I agree. I thought the O-line underperformed. Though I know they had good times

IntelCougar

1/9/20 8:13am

On paper, how many BYU players would start at Utah??? 3 or 4?

ALUF 1990

1/9/20 6:02am

kafusi, lb.

jwf

1/9/20 7:34am

Yep, agree here. In Utah's D, I would think Lloyd and Kaufusi would start at LB.

Scratch

1/9/20 8:47am

Bushman wouldn’t start, assuming 1 TE starter. He’d play a lot, rotating with

Scratch

1/9/20 7:45am

More than you'd admit. I don't coach at BYU/uu, so I don't see them daily to

Benfica1

1/9/20 8:09am

Christensen

puntersarepeople

1/9/20 3:03pm

If Zach Wilson is our starting quarterback next year we will not beat Utah

The Maestro

1/9/20 9:14am

Throwing Pick Six will not ever help you win. The Turn Overs kill BYU each year

CT98

1/9/20 10:17am

RE: On paper, BYU should start out next season 1-0

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