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Jan 8, 2020
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Scratch
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Actually, they don't. Shelley has more experience than those 2 guys combined.
And of course Bentley has way more experience than Wilson. The Utah QBs have much, much more experience than the BYU QBs.
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On paper, BYU should start out next season 1-0
LifelongAP
Semi-Pro
1/8/20 12:36pm
Are the coaches the same?
CaliWG
1/8/20 12:40pm
And winning
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 1:07pm
At this point I have zero faith they can win a game against them.
eysikal
1/8/20 12:41pm
Looks like uu is in your head as well. Hope that the team can shake it better
Benfica1
1/8/20 1:53pm
100% agree that this is BYU's best chance in a while, and probably its best
Scratch
1/8/20 12:44pm
BYU could win, but Utah's coaching is superior and general overall talent
Archaea
1/8/20 12:55pm
The talent gap is real.
RalphWiggam
1/8/20 12:53pm
Will the inexperience give BYU a chance? That's the question.
Archaea
1/8/20 12:56pm
Not QB. Or TE. LB may be close
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 1:08pm
Umm their TE looks really good.
eysikal
1/8/20 1:14pm
Pretty tough to argue that BYU has more talent at QB or TE.
Scratch
1/8/20 1:21pm
When it comes to depth probably not
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:15pm
So do we just count the number of guys on each roster with that position listed
Scratch
1/8/20 3:30pm
Utah's QB is a three year starter in the SEC who threw for 3,000 yards and 27TD
BrobaFett
1/8/20 1:25pm
I doubt Utah is deeper at both QB and TE
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:12pm
Actually, they don't. Shelley has more experience than those 2 guys combined.
Scratch
1/8/20 3:33pm
Not in depth though
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:39pm
And BYU doesn't have one QB that would start at Utah.
BrobaFett
1/8/20 3:45pm
Wrong. BYUs QBs are younger and better than you think
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:10pm
Just awesome. Do you relaize that BYU did lose when Shelley started?
Scratch
1/8/20 4:15pm
BYU is a lot better now and will have a good shot at winning if Shelley plays.
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 6:04pm
Sorry. You’re really not making sense in this thread. And I’m a BYU fan.
Blue Mountains
1/8/20 9:27pm
Not my fault you can’t follow 😉
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 9:49pm
Probably true
Blue Mountains
1/8/20 9:57pm
Utah has three guys who have thrown passes in games, just like the standard
Scratch
1/8/20 3:49pm
Depth was mentioned in the post I commented on
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:07pm
As was USC, Tennessee, Wisconson...
Refugee
1/8/20 2:10pm
That's the problem. Utah will take ANYBODY despite criminal history or GPA.
chazen
1/8/20 2:15pm
It's amazing that the NCAA lets Utah get around minimum qualifying requirements.
Scratch
1/8/20 2:33pm
Do they all do the work themselves?
1CougFan
1/8/20 3:33pm
No, sometimes they have them take byu correspondence classes.
BayUte
1/8/20 4:09pm
That's how you guys got Star Lotulelei and a bazillion other players. Star
chazen
1/8/20 11:22pm
Give it up already. Out of high school he couldn’t go ANYWHERE because he didn’t
Scratch
1/9/20 12:01am
Star had 1 option out of HS. BYU as a nonqualifier. I am a little surprised
ALUF 1990
1/9/20 11:37am
No, because BYU wasn't Indy yet, so BYU was in the same boat as Utah at the time
Scratch
1/9/20 11:42am
signed USC & Tennessee
Sale
1/8/20 7:54pm
the good news is BYU starts 0-0, you know, undefeated
run26
1/8/20 1:17pm
Vegas will have us as dogs on paper.
westsidecoug
1/8/20 1:18pm
Nah.
BrobaFett
1/8/20 1:24pm
IF only it was that simple. Cuz if true, Utah never should have won a game in the 90s or 2000s based on that.
Turnpike Lane
1/8/20 1:47pm
Utah was a lot more talented in the 90's and 00's than you admit.
BrobaFett
1/8/20 2:05pm
No, I was just doing the same eval you did. Utah had talent, BYU had more back then overall. But still lost games.
Turnpike Lane
1/8/20 2:21pm
I don't understand your stance.
BrobaFett
1/8/20 3:49pm
????? 2000s Utah put more guys in the NFL. 1990s about equal. Utah went
ALUF 1990
1/9/20 1:11pm
Rising’s never played. SC guy didn’t but play at Utah. Vastly overrated the QBs
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:27pm
When was the last time BYU had a Qb throw for 3,000 yards and 27 TD's?
BrobaFett
1/8/20 3:52pm
And our backup was offered a scholarship there.
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:13pm
Epps was a HS All American at Mater Dei. He offsets a talented freshman CB for
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:16pm
Epps? The guy with offers from BYU and a few of the dregs of the MWC will
Scratch
1/8/20 4:23pm
Oregon offered him.
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 5:58pm
After his sophomore year. And then stopped recruiting him shortly thereafter
Scratch
1/8/20 6:33pm
MWC recruit is an inaccurate judgement. Most recruiters said a PAC12 team would
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 9:15pm
Yep. Fantastic high school receiver.
Scratch
1/8/20 9:50pm
And much better recruit than you give him credit for
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 10:02pm
I'm glad you're better at evaluating talent than D-1 coaches. And I do think
Scratch
1/8/20 10:15pm
And yes, Oregon smoked Utah
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 6:04pm
Great post dripping with arrogance and condescencion
teancum
1/9/20 10:03am
Nah, Buffet would be less condescending towards his plumber than this guy's post
OlanchoCoug
1/9/20 11:52am
BYU has some very good TEs behind bushman so
1CougFan
1/9/20 12:11pm
Nope. Whittingham is Utah’s coach and we have Kalani.
arizonacougarfan
1/8/20 1:29pm
And BYU has too many fans like this.
Benfica1
1/8/20 1:54pm
Just the truth there
wilsdad
1/8/20 6:50pm
Kalani is contracted by Utah to lose, so BYU loses
YSeattle
1/8/20 1:34pm
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 9 times in a row, shame on me.
Super Chicken
1/8/20 1:41pm
On paper, BYU should have split the decade with wins vs. the yewties. But . . . .
lightmann
1/8/20 1:46pm
That highly graded OL couldn't be trusted to get a 3rd and 2 push.
Ash
1/8/20 1:51pm
Completely agree. On third and short, throughout the year,
D.T. Survivor
1/8/20 8:05pm
I think you may have missed the news about their grad transfer QB coming in
dchandle15
1/8/20 2:11pm
It’ll Ben his first game playing for Utah. And he’s not duel threat. He may not
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:29pm
Will need to get pressure on him.
1CougFan
1/8/20 3:37pm
Good points, go ahead and expect to lose.
Heath Squashwell
1/8/20 2:28pm
I hope you're right, but
B Blue
1/8/20 5:42pm
After 9 strait loses, I'll believe IF/when I see it...
AntiSNOT
1/8/20 7:16pm
I think you represent a hefty segment of the fanbase in Utah.
wilsdad
1/8/20 8:20pm
Don’t worry, we’ll find a way like we always do.
D.T. Survivor
1/8/20 8:44pm
Better chance than being up by 20 in the 3rd Q?
2FarGone
1/8/20 9:37pm
Impossible. BYU should start out 2-2
kapcreations
1/8/20 11:05pm
I lost you at “ BYU is returning one of the highest pff graded O-Lines”
coldcoug
1/9/20 12:22am
I agree. I thought the O-line underperformed. Though I know they had good times
IntelCougar
1/9/20 8:13am
On paper, how many BYU players would start at Utah??? 3 or 4?
ALUF 1990
1/9/20 6:02am
kafusi, lb.
jwf
1/9/20 7:34am
Yep, agree here. In Utah's D, I would think Lloyd and Kaufusi would start at LB.
Scratch
1/9/20 8:47am
Bushman wouldn’t start, assuming 1 TE starter. He’d play a lot, rotating with
Scratch
1/9/20 7:45am
More than you'd admit. I don't coach at BYU/uu, so I don't see them daily to
Benfica1
1/9/20 8:09am
Christensen
puntersarepeople
1/9/20 3:03pm
If Zach Wilson is our starting quarterback next year we will not beat Utah
The Maestro
1/9/20 9:14am
Throwing Pick Six will not ever help you win. The Turn Overs kill BYU each year
CT98
1/9/20 10:17am
RE: On paper, BYU should start out next season 1-0
Ash
1/9/20 12:41pm
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