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Jun 16, 2021
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BYU Tar Heel
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In Jordan’s prime there was never a discussion of where he ranked as
the current best players. Lebron has been ranked in the top 3 most years, but I can’t think of a year that there wasn’t a debate. KD, Steph, Kobe, Khawi. Always an argument.
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I’m a younger guy 20 years old and I think Lebron is the goat
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:16pm
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6/16/21 7:18pm
Yeah, the fact that he is the most transcendent player in the history of the
hebercreeper
6/16/21 7:20pm
If you had watched both
gurt
6/16/21 7:21pm
Saying top 10 though is foolish. Lebron and Jordan are easily 1A and 1B
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:21pm
Changed it to top 5
gurt
6/16/21 7:22pm
This is it for me. I watched both and Jordan was better. Hard to explain but
Memmo
6/16/21 7:23pm
Almost just typed the same thing verbatim
gurt
6/16/21 7:25pm
and don't forget the flopping and whining. Those two detractions make LJ drop.
Pangare
6/17/21 10:58am
This. I’ve watched both careers in their entirety. Jordan.
Refugee
6/16/21 7:57pm
When someone has to say they're the greatest, THEY AREN'T
vabeachcoug
6/17/21 10:41am
Can you imagine LeFlop and LeWhine playing in the 80s? Different era. Harder to
vabeachcoug
6/17/21 10:43am
You still wonder if Lebron is going to come through. Plenty of times he doesn’t
BYU Tar Heel
6/16/21 10:17pm
Amen. Also, Bron has a weak, entitled mentality. Jordan’s intensity rose above
Horacio Caine
6/16/21 10:27pm
…or engage in more ‘load management’
thegoodmeister
6/16/21 11:29pm
Jordan made the NBA massive. Built off of Magic/Bird. LBJ hasn’t improved on that really.
Turnpike Lane
6/16/21 7:24pm
It's contracted hasn't it?
Division Bell
6/16/21 7:27pm
In the US yes, globally no.
JoeExotic
6/16/21 7:49pm
That actually sounds familiar. I think the main growth is in China, but the bigger US audience contracted significantly.
Division Bell
6/16/21 7:56pm
There is no question MJ was more of a draw and more marketable
JoeExotic
6/16/21 8:12pm
One could argue that Kobe took it international
kiyoshige
6/17/21 7:17am
Watched both. Jordan was better.
dwhitebud
6/16/21 7:26pm
Lebron is great. Jordan is better.
All-American
6/16/21 7:30pm
Jordan awed even his detractors. I see in Lebron an unbelievable athlete and
AggieWeekendCougar
6/16/21 7:26pm
In Jordan’s prime there was never a discussion of where he ranked as
BYU Tar Heel
6/16/21 10:30pm
You are wrong about the clutch stats for one.
bulletproof
6/16/21 7:28pm
I’m right here’s some stats from an article
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:34pm
Wow, that sounded like a cnn article on Biden
bulletproof
6/16/21 8:09pm
I mean the article just uses statistics and numbers don’t lie
youngcoug20
6/16/21 8:25pm
Finals Jordan 24-11. Lebron 15-31 before bubble. Swept twice in finals and lost
gp232
6/16/21 8:19pm
And how many times did Jordan lose in the first round?
youngcoug20
6/16/21 8:25pm
Please. This is your argument. Please Celtics had 5 hall of famers and these
gp232
6/16/21 8:37pm
Yep. That Mavs final...beating his Superteam.
vabeachcoug
6/17/21 10:54am
You could draw those conclusions if you didn't see them both play.
j20
6/17/21 7:41am
Lol, Jordan carried his teams, imo his teams had less talent than LeMiss's
semisonic
6/16/21 7:28pm
Lol look at the records of the teams when lebron left the cavs and Jordan left
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:31pm
You haven't watched Jordan's games and his teammates play, have you?
semisonic
6/16/21 7:35pm
He had Scottie Pippen arguably the best small forward of that era, Dennis Rodman
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:37pm
Imo, not past media analysis, Scotties level is about Thurl Bailey or
semisonic
6/16/21 7:55pm
Lol this is quite possibly the worst NBA take I have seen on this board.
dwhitebud
6/16/21 8:00pm
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
semisonic
6/16/21 8:18pm
Did you just say that Scottie Pippen is equal to Matt Harpring?
PHXSUNS31
6/16/21 8:02pm
I had to read that twice. Then twice more. Couldn't believe someone wrote that
squidmark
6/16/21 10:07pm
I like how you keep referring to Lebron as Lemiss, that’s cute
youngcoug20
6/16/21 8:05pm
Michael Jordan would have never lost to the MAVS.
jr0b44
6/16/21 8:02pm
Rodman was good with Jordan for one year.
lilpenny
6/16/21 8:13pm
Pippin went to the Rockets and disappointed. LeBron…surrounded by stars.
thegoodmeister
6/16/21 11:34pm
Can't have it both ways; do Cavs years define LeBron or Heat/Lakers
krindorr
6/16/21 8:43pm
Jordan played both ends of the court and would shut down opposing best player
CougarGregor
6/16/21 7:31pm
Yup, amen! Just said the same thing, although without as much detail.
specsauce
6/16/21 7:34pm
He wasn’t known as the glove.
All-American
6/16/21 7:43pm
That’s be Seattle’s Gary Payton
CougarGM
6/16/21 7:45pm
Listen, they didn’t call him “Pistol Pete” for nothin
Junior Deputy
6/16/21 8:05pm
This was funny. Ha.
Poncho punch
6/16/21 9:59pm
Or the Round Mound of Rebound
squidmark
6/16/21 10:11pm
Pick any playoffs series MJ had and tell me which one he was more impactful
JoeExotic
6/16/21 7:55pm
LeBron is the evolutionary Magic Johnson. More athletic, makes players around him better, can play basically all 5
specsauce
6/16/21 7:32pm
I may get some heat for this but, watching all 3, I go Jordan then Kobe then
Countcougula
6/16/21 7:37pm
As far as enjoyability in watching their games, I agree with that list too
Turnpike Lane
6/16/21 8:06pm
I think Jordan had a higher peak while Lebron had a longer peak
machete
6/16/21 7:37pm
I’ll agree there with the Mavericks point
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:39pm
He let his team lose to the ‘95 Magic
PHXSUNS31
6/16/21 7:45pm
That was #45 Jordan, not #23
CougarGM
6/16/21 7:49pm
Who's fault is that?
JoeExotic
6/16/21 7:58pm
My friend played on that magic team. And Jordan had just returned to nba.
Taccoug
6/16/21 7:49pm
Not an excuse in my opinion. He was in shape. The Magic were just better
PHXSUNS31
6/16/21 8:04pm
Baseball shape, not basketball shape.
machete
6/16/21 8:10pm
He had 21 games and 2 months of basketball before he played Orlando
PHXSUNS31
6/16/21 8:30pm
2 months is nothing, just ask lebron
machete
6/16/21 11:41pm
He swept the magic the next year.
Taccoug
6/16/21 8:25pm
Yes with Rodman joining the team
PHXSUNS31
6/16/21 9:05pm
I agree with you that he wouldn't let his team lose to the Mavs
JoeExotic
6/16/21 7:46pm
Like said, Jordan had just returned from 1.5 years off playing baseball
machete
6/16/21 8:10pm
Yep. I don't think he loses vs Mavs or beats warriors
JoeExotic
6/16/21 8:16pm
Watched it live and have watched it a time or 2 since bc schadenfreude lol
machete
6/16/21 8:37pm
Jordan was larger than life. He took a shot, you thought it was going in. Didn’t matter if it was a layup, midrange,
DieHarder
6/16/21 7:38pm
I HATE Michael Jordan. But having watched both, he's better than LeBron.
NarfUte
6/16/21 7:38pm
Check this out:
Lamby3804
6/16/21 7:41pm
That was great.
OmahaThunderCoug
6/16/21 8:22pm
Awesome video
schpenny
6/16/21 10:06pm
Best thing in this thread right here
kiyoshige
6/17/21 7:54am
Great break down. Agree 100%
Pangare
6/17/21 11:21am
Just curious, how did you come up with your boardname?
cougaman
6/16/21 7:45pm
RE: Just curious, how did you come up with your boardname?
youngcoug20
6/16/21 7:58pm
I wonder who spent more time coming up with theirs between you two.
MrClark
6/16/21 11:24pm
The game is different now- give MJ today’s rules and it wouldn’t be close
1984coug
6/16/21 7:46pm
I think Lebron is more talented with the physical gifts he got. He may even have
crack
6/16/21 7:47pm
I watched a lot of MJ and LBJ
JoeExotic
6/16/21 7:48pm
Watch this video. Lebron does not have better stats and Jordan is the goat.
gp232
6/16/21 7:58pm
I've seen plenty of both.
JoeExotic
6/16/21 8:03pm
Exactly. Jordan was Must See TV. LBJ isn’t.
Turnpike Lane
6/16/21 8:10pm
I agree. I’ve never thought it was close. LBJ is phenomenal, but
OmahaThunderCoug
6/16/21 8:24pm
If I could buy a ticket to watch any of them in their prime, I pay to watch Jordan.
Turnpike Lane
6/16/21 8:09pm
Your welcome to your opinion, but I don’ agree. I believe Wilt is the greatest
Bullrider
6/16/21 8:15pm
The real question is how good would Jordan be if he played in this day
GSwarriorcoug
6/16/21 8:17pm
People have said Jordan would average 50 with today’s rules.
gp232
6/16/21 8:26pm
"People" is not really a strong authority or reference point.
GSwarriorcoug
6/16/21 8:42pm
Multiple ex NBA players. Better?
gp232
6/17/21 1:08am
Lebron is a better rebounder and passer, jordan better scorer.
gww687
6/16/21 8:20pm
If Jordan had labrons size...
CougarBuddy
6/16/21 8:45pm
LeBron is probably not even a top 5 current player in the NBA right now. Can
archie
6/16/21 8:48pm
Jordan was already retired when he was LeBrons age tho so I'm not sure what
JoeExotic
6/16/21 8:53pm
You think Wizards Jordan was #1 in the league?
youngcoug20
6/16/21 8:56pm
I’m with you, youngster.
Ham
6/16/21 8:52pm
MJ won DPOY, mvp, and scoring title in the same season with Bird and Magic play
NarfUte
6/16/21 8:56pm
Russell
pappabear246
6/16/21 9:46pm
RE: I’m a younger guy 20 years old and I think Lebron is the goat
Bluedarts
6/16/21 9:49pm
I hate watching Lebron play honestly. It’s such a
Von Cougarschnauzer
6/16/21 9:55pm
Kobe
kiyoshige
6/16/21 10:37pm
RE: I’m a younger guy 20 years old and I think Lebron is the goat
akbarishiwatsu
6/16/21 10:53pm
1 on 1 in their primes: Jordan. Bulls vs. any James team (best of 7): Bulls
BYUBandfan
6/16/21 11:07pm
He's had too many lapses/times he quit to be the GOAT. Longevity doesn't = GOAT
BlackBart
6/16/21 11:11pm
You stayed up late at night to watch ESPN. At 6'6", who would he posterize or
vabeachcoug
6/17/21 10:47am
Best argument...he made women watch basketball. He just had it.
vabeachcoug
6/17/21 10:49am
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