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I’m a younger guy 20 years old and I think Lebron is the goat

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:16pm

Yeah, the fact that he is the most transcendent player in the history of the

hebercreeper

6/16/21 7:20pm

If you had watched both

gurt

6/16/21 7:21pm

Saying top 10 though is foolish. Lebron and Jordan are easily 1A and 1B

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:21pm

Changed it to top 5

gurt

6/16/21 7:22pm

This is it for me. I watched both and Jordan was better. Hard to explain but

Memmo

6/16/21 7:23pm

Almost just typed the same thing verbatim

gurt

6/16/21 7:25pm

and don't forget the flopping and whining. Those two detractions make LJ drop.

Pangare

6/17/21 10:58am

This. I’ve watched both careers in their entirety. Jordan.

Refugee

6/16/21 7:57pm

When someone has to say they're the greatest, THEY AREN'T

vabeachcoug

6/17/21 10:41am

Can you imagine LeFlop and LeWhine playing in the 80s? Different era. Harder to

vabeachcoug

6/17/21 10:43am

You still wonder if Lebron is going to come through. Plenty of times he doesn’t

BYU Tar Heel

6/16/21 10:17pm

Amen. Also, Bron has a weak, entitled mentality. Jordan’s intensity rose above

Horacio Caine

6/16/21 10:27pm

…or engage in more ‘load management’

thegoodmeister

6/16/21 11:29pm

Jordan made the NBA massive. Built off of Magic/Bird. LBJ hasn’t improved on that really.

Turnpike Lane

6/16/21 7:24pm

It's contracted hasn't it?

Division Bell

6/16/21 7:27pm

In the US yes, globally no.

JoeExotic

6/16/21 7:49pm

That actually sounds familiar. I think the main growth is in China, but the bigger US audience contracted significantly.

Division Bell

6/16/21 7:56pm

There is no question MJ was more of a draw and more marketable

JoeExotic

6/16/21 8:12pm

One could argue that Kobe took it international

kiyoshige

6/17/21 7:17am

Watched both. Jordan was better.

dwhitebud

6/16/21 7:26pm

Lebron is great. Jordan is better.

All-American

6/16/21 7:30pm

Jordan awed even his detractors. I see in Lebron an unbelievable athlete and

AggieWeekendCougar

6/16/21 7:26pm

In Jordan’s prime there was never a discussion of where he ranked as

BYU Tar Heel

6/16/21 10:30pm

You are wrong about the clutch stats for one.

bulletproof

6/16/21 7:28pm

I’m right here’s some stats from an article

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:34pm

Wow, that sounded like a cnn article on Biden

bulletproof

6/16/21 8:09pm

I mean the article just uses statistics and numbers don’t lie

youngcoug20

6/16/21 8:25pm

Finals Jordan 24-11. Lebron 15-31 before bubble. Swept twice in finals and lost

gp232

6/16/21 8:19pm

And how many times did Jordan lose in the first round?

youngcoug20

6/16/21 8:25pm

Please. This is your argument. Please Celtics had 5 hall of famers and these

gp232

6/16/21 8:37pm

Yep. That Mavs final...beating his Superteam.

vabeachcoug

6/17/21 10:54am

You could draw those conclusions if you didn't see them both play.

j20

6/17/21 7:41am

Lol, Jordan carried his teams, imo his teams had less talent than LeMiss's

semisonic

6/16/21 7:28pm

Lol look at the records of the teams when lebron left the cavs and Jordan left

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:31pm

You haven't watched Jordan's games and his teammates play, have you?

semisonic

6/16/21 7:35pm

He had Scottie Pippen arguably the best small forward of that era, Dennis Rodman

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:37pm

Imo, not past media analysis, Scotties level is about Thurl Bailey or

semisonic

6/16/21 7:55pm

Lol this is quite possibly the worst NBA take I have seen on this board.

dwhitebud

6/16/21 8:00pm

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

semisonic

6/16/21 8:18pm

Did you just say that Scottie Pippen is equal to Matt Harpring?

PHXSUNS31

6/16/21 8:02pm

I had to read that twice. Then twice more. Couldn't believe someone wrote that

squidmark

6/16/21 10:07pm

I like how you keep referring to Lebron as Lemiss, that’s cute

youngcoug20

6/16/21 8:05pm

Michael Jordan would have never lost to the MAVS.

jr0b44

6/16/21 8:02pm

Rodman was good with Jordan for one year.

lilpenny

6/16/21 8:13pm

Pippin went to the Rockets and disappointed. LeBron…surrounded by stars.

thegoodmeister

6/16/21 11:34pm

Can't have it both ways; do Cavs years define LeBron or Heat/Lakers

krindorr

6/16/21 8:43pm

Jordan played both ends of the court and would shut down opposing best player

CougarGregor

6/16/21 7:31pm

Yup, amen! Just said the same thing, although without as much detail.

specsauce

6/16/21 7:34pm

He wasn’t known as the glove.

All-American

6/16/21 7:43pm

That’s be Seattle’s Gary Payton

CougarGM

6/16/21 7:45pm

Listen, they didn’t call him “Pistol Pete” for nothin

Junior Deputy

6/16/21 8:05pm

This was funny. Ha.

Poncho punch

6/16/21 9:59pm

Or the Round Mound of Rebound

squidmark

6/16/21 10:11pm

Pick any playoffs series MJ had and tell me which one he was more impactful

JoeExotic

6/16/21 7:55pm

LeBron is the evolutionary Magic Johnson. More athletic, makes players around him better, can play basically all 5

specsauce

6/16/21 7:32pm

I may get some heat for this but, watching all 3, I go Jordan then Kobe then

Countcougula

6/16/21 7:37pm

As far as enjoyability in watching their games, I agree with that list too

Turnpike Lane

6/16/21 8:06pm

I think Jordan had a higher peak while Lebron had a longer peak

machete

6/16/21 7:37pm

I’ll agree there with the Mavericks point

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:39pm

He let his team lose to the ‘95 Magic

PHXSUNS31

6/16/21 7:45pm

That was #45 Jordan, not #23

CougarGM

6/16/21 7:49pm

Who's fault is that?

JoeExotic

6/16/21 7:58pm

My friend played on that magic team. And Jordan had just returned to nba.

Taccoug

6/16/21 7:49pm

Not an excuse in my opinion. He was in shape. The Magic were just better

PHXSUNS31

6/16/21 8:04pm

Baseball shape, not basketball shape.

machete

6/16/21 8:10pm

He had 21 games and 2 months of basketball before he played Orlando

PHXSUNS31

6/16/21 8:30pm

2 months is nothing, just ask lebron

machete

6/16/21 11:41pm

He swept the magic the next year.

Taccoug

6/16/21 8:25pm

Yes with Rodman joining the team

PHXSUNS31

6/16/21 9:05pm

I agree with you that he wouldn't let his team lose to the Mavs

JoeExotic

6/16/21 7:46pm

Like said, Jordan had just returned from 1.5 years off playing baseball

machete

6/16/21 8:10pm

Yep. I don't think he loses vs Mavs or beats warriors

JoeExotic

6/16/21 8:16pm

Watched it live and have watched it a time or 2 since bc schadenfreude lol

machete

6/16/21 8:37pm

Jordan was larger than life. He took a shot, you thought it was going in. Didn’t matter if it was a layup, midrange,

DieHarder

6/16/21 7:38pm

I HATE Michael Jordan. But having watched both, he's better than LeBron.

NarfUte

6/16/21 7:38pm

Check this out:

Lamby3804

6/16/21 7:41pm

That was great.

OmahaThunderCoug

6/16/21 8:22pm

Awesome video

schpenny

6/16/21 10:06pm

Best thing in this thread right here

kiyoshige

6/17/21 7:54am

Great break down. Agree 100%

Pangare

6/17/21 11:21am

Just curious, how did you come up with your boardname?

cougaman

6/16/21 7:45pm

RE: Just curious, how did you come up with your boardname?

youngcoug20

6/16/21 7:58pm

I wonder who spent more time coming up with theirs between you two.

MrClark

6/16/21 11:24pm

The game is different now- give MJ today’s rules and it wouldn’t be close

1984coug

6/16/21 7:46pm

I think Lebron is more talented with the physical gifts he got. He may even have

crack

6/16/21 7:47pm

I watched a lot of MJ and LBJ

JoeExotic

6/16/21 7:48pm

Watch this video. Lebron does not have better stats and Jordan is the goat.

gp232

6/16/21 7:58pm

I've seen plenty of both.

JoeExotic

6/16/21 8:03pm

Exactly. Jordan was Must See TV. LBJ isn’t.

Turnpike Lane

6/16/21 8:10pm

I agree. I’ve never thought it was close. LBJ is phenomenal, but

OmahaThunderCoug

6/16/21 8:24pm

If I could buy a ticket to watch any of them in their prime, I pay to watch Jordan.

Turnpike Lane

6/16/21 8:09pm

Your welcome to your opinion, but I don’ agree. I believe Wilt is the greatest

Bullrider

6/16/21 8:15pm

The real question is how good would Jordan be if he played in this day

GSwarriorcoug

6/16/21 8:17pm

People have said Jordan would average 50 with today’s rules.

gp232

6/16/21 8:26pm

"People" is not really a strong authority or reference point.

GSwarriorcoug

6/16/21 8:42pm

Multiple ex NBA players. Better?

gp232

6/17/21 1:08am

Lebron is a better rebounder and passer, jordan better scorer.

gww687

6/16/21 8:20pm

If Jordan had labrons size...

CougarBuddy

6/16/21 8:45pm

LeBron is probably not even a top 5 current player in the NBA right now. Can

archie

6/16/21 8:48pm

Jordan was already retired when he was LeBrons age tho so I'm not sure what

JoeExotic

6/16/21 8:53pm

You think Wizards Jordan was #1 in the league?

youngcoug20

6/16/21 8:56pm

I’m with you, youngster.

Ham

6/16/21 8:52pm

MJ won DPOY, mvp, and scoring title in the same season with Bird and Magic play

NarfUte

6/16/21 8:56pm

Russell

pappabear246

6/16/21 9:46pm

RE: I’m a younger guy 20 years old and I think Lebron is the goat

Bluedarts

6/16/21 9:49pm

I hate watching Lebron play honestly. It’s such a

Von Cougarschnauzer

6/16/21 9:55pm

Kobe

kiyoshige

6/16/21 10:37pm

RE: I’m a younger guy 20 years old and I think Lebron is the goat

akbarishiwatsu

6/16/21 10:53pm

1 on 1 in their primes: Jordan. Bulls vs. any James team (best of 7): Bulls

BYUBandfan

6/16/21 11:07pm

He's had too many lapses/times he quit to be the GOAT. Longevity doesn't = GOAT

BlackBart

6/16/21 11:11pm

You stayed up late at night to watch ESPN. At 6'6", who would he posterize or

vabeachcoug

6/17/21 10:47am

Best argument...he made women watch basketball. He just had it.

vabeachcoug

6/17/21 10:49am

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