The trenches were definitely where ASU had the biggest advantage.

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Sep 20, 2021
8:42:23am

Duke Silver All-American

The trenches were definitely where ASU had the biggest advantage.

I observed that we would cheer when ASU’s running backs would gain 3 or 4 yards, because it felt like we “stopped” them. But we’d also cheer when a BYU RB would gain 3 or 4 yards.

That’s usually a sign that the war in the trenches is one your team is losing. But our lines didn’t commit a hundred penalties, so in the end, our line got the job done.

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I mentioned on a thread last night that I thought it was clear ASU was the

Duke Silver

9/20/21 8:20am

If that game is played in Tempe, they win. Our crowd rattled an already...

jrifkin48

9/20/21 8:21am

I didn’t see a significant athleticism difference in any Position groups other

kotacoug

9/20/21 8:29am

I think I give an edge to ASU DL and maybe the OL. But I generally agree.

boogers

9/20/21 8:30am

Whether you didn’t see it on the field, the numbers are pretty clear

Cougarclaw

9/20/21 8:31am

A 1 yd difference in passing and rushing isn’t really that significant

kotacoug

9/20/21 8:47am

First of all, it actually is. The difference between a RB who gains 4.5 ypc

Duke Silver

9/20/21 8:53am

Not considering the scheme we run on Defense. Yds gained isnt a good metric to

kotacoug

9/20/21 8:56am

I think their qb was a better passer than ours.

bald man

9/20/21 9:10am

You have a very good point.

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

9/20/21 8:22am

BYU had an advantage in receivers/tight ends

bluelands

9/20/21 8:25am

So they were more "talented" because they had better overall game stats? How

basman

9/20/21 8:26am

Eye test, of course.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/20/21 8:29am

They were able to run the ball better, pass the ball better, more total yards,

Duke Silver

9/20/21 8:37am

the LOS on both sides was owned by ASU until the end.

Belboz

9/20/21 8:42am

100%, they clearly got gassed. Altitude may have also played a role.

Duke Silver

9/20/21 8:47am

Our DL stuck to assignment sound football, they were outnumbered on many downs

kotacoug

9/20/21 8:54am

BYU struggled to run the ball until that final drive.

Belboz

9/20/21 9:17am

So we wore them down based off our superior athleticism 😉

kotacoug

9/20/21 9:21am

BYU definitely wore them down at the end. that was a very good ASU team

Belboz

9/20/21 9:38am

I think the ONLY real talent advantage may have been the OL vs DL and vice versa

boogers

9/20/21 8:29am

The trenches were definitely where ASU had the biggest advantage.

Duke Silver

9/20/21 8:42am

You’re not taking into account scheme. Which is significant. We are going to

kotacoug

9/20/21 8:50am

A lot of this was offset by turnovers. Not just penalties. We caused havoc and turned them over. Plus, our defense

9/20/21 8:36am

Agree. Ave yards gained isnt a good metric to evaluate athleticism

kotacoug

9/20/21 8:51am

BYU looked physically outmatched until BYU's final drive.

Belboz

9/20/21 8:41am

... for a quarter and a half...

Benfica1

9/20/21 8:51am

I agree with you. I was at the game on Saturday and in my opinion ASU beat

9/20/21 1:29pm

How many times did they blow the running play with QB or the RB going the wrong

BYUBandfan

9/20/21 3:25pm

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