None of our (CBers) opinions mean much at all. Yet here we are.

Jul 7, 2022
12:01:53pm

canofpicante All-American

When I say “we” I’m really referring to BYU leaders, and leaders of the BIG12. I don’t mean me personally. I hope the leaders aren’t blinded by bias. Anything is possible right now.

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canofpicante

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CONFIRMATION BIAS could kill the BIG12 just like it has the PAC. Nobody thought

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:20am

But Swaim and PK.

WDaddy

7/7/22 8:22am

I hope they are right. I really hope.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:25am

Sure, it's just a rumor, but PK rarely shares rumors and loves the Pac

Sock Gnome

7/7/22 8:35am

Agree 100%. I have posted about this on CB. Most want to discount the

BlooCoog

7/7/22 8:23am

Whatever. Swaim and PK already confirmed it. That’s as good as official.

WDaddy

7/7/22 8:24am

True. Seems extremely unlikely though when you look at everything

TNT

7/7/22 8:24am

The fact XII Extends East will help in the future with bias

SouthernBlueBlood

7/7/22 8:23am

The Big12's advantage is that it has ZERO prima dona/blue bloods left in it

jrifkin48

7/7/22 8:24am

I get it. We want to believe that those things can’t be overlooked.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:26am

That’s a very passive aggressive response. It would be great to have a BB but

SouthernBlueBlood

7/7/22 8:28am

I’m trying to be as direct as possible. Personally, I think money

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:32am

But BYU knows they arent a good fit in the P12. Sure, there would be a honeymoon phase where everyone gets along, but 3

HarlemCoug

7/7/22 8:51am

Honestly, I don't believe they would be

krindorr

7/7/22 10:30am

You are much more optimistic about the decision makers in our universities than i am

HarlemCoug

7/7/22 10:42am

You’re suffering from confirmation bias about us having confirmation bias.

Junior Deputy

7/7/22 8:40am

😂 I want PAC12 schools to join the BIG12 too.

canofpicante

7/7/22 10:14am

Having no marquee brands is an advantage. But it's also a disadvantage

krindorr

7/7/22 8:36am

That's not true, I brought up B1G poaching those schools last year

TheRowdy

7/7/22 8:24am

Not true for everyone. Absolutely. Some are more open-minded than others.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:27am

People outside the PAC12 were certainly ringing those alarm bells

krindorr

7/7/22 8:39am

The difference is that the PAC 10 sans USC and UCLA has less value than the New Big 12.

Adrielle

7/7/22 8:26am

Not with the addition of the 6 best BIG12 teams. Lemme know if you want sources

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:28am

In the world of show me it becomes a stronger negotiating point if what is in your hand is stronger.

DJROSS

7/7/22 11:06am

I agree with what you’re saying. BUT It’s also what we WANT to believe. And that

canofpicante

7/7/22 11:40am

I have no say in the matter, so my confirmation bias doesn't move the needle.

Benfica1

7/7/22 8:27am

Few believe that Baylor (and its rape culuture) would ever br admitted by the woke Pac12 presidents. And if they

HarlemCoug

7/7/22 8:28am

That’s one school. I agree.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:29am

I'm not sure Baylor is a worthwhile add, even aside from all that

krindorr

7/7/22 8:48am

No one wants Kansas so they’re stuck. We all are and I’m cool with it.

Turnpike Lane

7/7/22 8:33am

Currently the BIG XII payout is more than the PAC X payout and will have further

BYU Grounds

7/7/22 8:57am

Again, sources say PAC12 with no USC/UCLA but with UO, UW, and added BIG12 teams

canofpicante

7/7/22 9:05am

But why jump for similar $$$?

TheRowdy

7/7/22 9:10am

Money similar. Academics way better. Big names/reputation better with

canofpicante

7/7/22 10:08am

The whole academics are way better is being oversold. We are talking football and the entertainment value. Academics has

DJROSS

7/7/22 10:55am

Yeah, but decisions are made by University Presidents, not Athletic Directors

krindorr

7/7/22 11:00am

You asked why. So I some reasons. I probably agree that the BIG12 is in a

canofpicante

7/7/22 11:44am

"We" does that really matter since "We" are not making these decisions?

DJROSS

7/7/22 11:53am

None of our (CBers) opinions mean much at all. Yet here we are.

canofpicante

7/7/22 12:01pm

That is why I steer clear of using Us and We in such conversations.

DJROSS

7/7/22 12:11pm

I thought it was intuitive

canofpicante

7/7/22 2:54pm

Payouts get complicated when you consider all the factors

krindorr

7/7/22 10:38am

You must also consider how many of the current teams in the Big XII were those spurned by the PAC12 when all they wanted

DJROSS

7/7/22 9:04am

This is a different situation than last year with different motivations.

canofpicante

7/7/22 9:27am

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