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Aug 6, 2017
1:50:31pm

BYUCougarsFan All-American

BYU and Utah are pretty much even teams.

They deserve bragging rights, but they've squeaked out close wins. It's about individual plays in individual games, they're not far superior or even superior.

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Confess your unpopular BYU football opinion (#confessyourunpopularopinion is

8/6/17 1:44pm

Anae was a very, very good offensive coordinator

8/6/17 1:44pm

Anae part I was pretty good.

Crush4

8/6/17 1:47pm

Anae pt 1 had better talent to work with, IMO

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:48pm

And a different scheme, and TE usage

Crush4

8/6/17 1:48pm

GFGH was awful, absolutely awful.

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:50pm

The numbers don't reflect that it was awful

hammergm

8/6/17 4:07pm

The number don't tell the whole story. ESPECIALLY in this case.

8/8/17 2:03am

Coaches either improve over time or stay the same

formerly utesplease

8/6/17 7:50pm

I think he was good. Probably not great

Jericho

8/6/17 1:48pm

Very good against mediocre teams. OK against good team. Downright poopie against very good to great teams.

foofcoug

8/6/17 5:33pm

Same could be said about practically any good coach

Jericho

8/6/17 5:35pm

To be fair that's how I describe your team

formerly utesplease

8/6/17 7:54pm

BYU doesn't belong in a P5 conference

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:45pm

Why would you say that? Is it a moral stance or some quality you feel BYU doesn't possess? We all know your a BYU fan

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 1:48pm

BYU isn't willing to spend the money necessary to compete or show that they belong.

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:49pm

I disagree- I think other schools are willing to spend more than they should. There is a lot of things AD departments

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 1:52pm

It's an arms race and BYU can't/won't compete

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:53pm

TNT agrees with this

TNT

8/6/17 1:53pm

Many of these schools could face stark changes in fortune and find themselves owing millions without a revenue source

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 1:55pm

And by the time that happens, if it happens, BYU will probably have dropped sports.

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:58pm

I don't think you're wrong. Makes me sad though

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 2:00pm

Law of diminishing returns is coming into play

wapiti

8/6/17 2:21pm

You sound like someone in an apartment jealous of the people in nice houses

DapperDan

8/6/17 2:08pm

*sniff*

TNT

8/6/17 2:33pm

Aren't we spending as much as 50% of P5 schools? Seems like we fit right in.

FMOCIE

8/6/17 2:29pm

You don't get invited to P5 by modeling yourself after Washington St

DapperDan

8/6/17 2:42pm

Utah got in by spending less than BYU

CNN is Fake News

8/6/17 7:22pm

Utah got in by not being a Mormon school

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 7:37pm

You do realize dozens of P5 schools are in debt & spends more than makes right?

Y4LYFE

8/6/17 3:57pm

It's weird, but I tend to agree with this. It seems like the football is fifth doesn't come from Bronco, but from the

TyPower2016

8/6/17 4:09pm

Couldn't agree more. Until the church decides to spend some real money we'll stay a lowly independent

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 1:48pm

What are they going to spend money on? You have great facilities at BYU.

tebowned

8/6/17 2:01pm

Count me puzzled as well

towerman

8/6/17 2:09pm

This is a football thread. Not baseball and basketball facility thread.

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 2:09pm

I definitely think we should increase coach pay.

tebowned

8/6/17 2:39pm

But somehow they don't.

HenderCoug

8/6/17 4:44pm

We're not even close to what constitutes "great" these days. Our facilities are

The Dude Abides

8/6/17 10:06pm

Our facilities are better than a whole lot of P5. And it's been done without P5 subsidy. Moreover, we have better

8/7/17 9:59pm

See I don't get that POV either...

CoachSpeak

8/6/17 2:22pm

We most definitely do not have "as nice of facilities as anyone".

The Dude Abides

8/6/17 10:33pm

Well I have just this summer toured....

CoachSpeak

8/7/17 8:01am

Probably not. But he does like to throw out blanket statements.

slatecoug

8/7/17 8:10am

We toured Utah's back in June....

CoachSpeak

8/7/17 8:22am

I have toured both and I guess I just disagree with you. Utah's offices and

The Dude Abides

8/7/17 4:14pm

I laughed when you said their Stadium is better than ours.

slatecoug

8/8/17 1:37am

Michigan holds 107,000+ and its a piece of crap. Not saying Les is a piece of

Rise as Utes

8/8/17 9:10am

Actually it is your reasoning that is flawed.

slatecoug

8/8/17 2:13pm

BYU is not a bucket list stadium regardless of backdrop.

Rise as Utes

8/8/17 2:34pm

Seeing how your biased opinion doesn't matter, but ESPN commentators disagree...

slatecoug

8/20/17 11:47pm

BTW, didn't you just get done saying Michigan's stadium is a dump?

slatecoug

8/20/17 11:49pm

Our stadium is bigger. We have a great backdrop. Theirs is much, much nicer.

The Dude Abides

8/8/17 1:14pm

In your opinion, not mine.

slatecoug

8/8/17 2:05pm

I don't agree....

CoachSpeak

8/9/17 8:43am

You can park anywhere on 4th south or downtown. We have a trax stop right

Rise as Utes

8/9/17 8:53am

I agree about the bathrooms. That West concourse one is especially nice! But in all seriousness...

Roko's Basilisk

8/9/17 9:22am

Like I said, we have a good setting and it's bigger. Theirs is nicer and any

The Dude Abides

8/9/17 9:03am

RES feels jv in comparison. Other than suites, LES wins every other possible category

MaxxPower

8/9/17 10:10pm

So, what money do you suggest "the Church" spend on BYU Football?

Skysthelimit

8/6/17 4:19pm

But schools like Texss Tech and Iowa St do?

Kerbouchard

8/6/17 2:51pm

RE: Confess your unpopular BYU football opinion (#confessyourunpopularopinion is

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 1:47pm

That was forever ago. And I missed it.

8/6/17 1:47pm

BYU being in a P5 conference would only mildly-moderately improve recruiting

TNT

8/6/17 1:48pm

This is true

Little Britches

8/6/17 4:00pm

Step further, being in a P5 Conference wouldn't improve recruiting at all

gww687

8/6/17 4:43pm

Even though we are both speculating, I strongly disagree with you.

cougarnerd

8/6/17 5:08pm

And I would have no problem getting into a P5 and being proven wrong

gww687

8/8/17 2:20pm

BYU fans are just as annoying as Utah fans.

The Dude Abides

8/6/17 1:48pm

Hmmm. Almost agreed with you and then a flood of memories of obnoxious ute fan experiences

Zach Morris

8/6/17 1:57pm

I agree, just a different kind of annoying

BigTD

8/6/17 7:23pm

Exactly

Holy Driver

8/6/17 7:56pm

BYU will drop football in the next 30 years

Noni Fruit

8/6/17 1:48pm

10 to 15.

Iman23

8/6/17 1:57pm

Not just BYU. Big time college football won't exist in 20 years. Probably less

jbonita

8/6/17 2:03pm

Too soon it'll be 30-50 but by 20 it will drop off significantly

GeauxCougs

8/6/17 2:12pm

I think 20 is optimistic for big time football. I think the next round of contra

jbonita

8/6/17 2:17pm

My opinions are probably only unpopular with Ute fans.

Dixie's Red Rocks

8/6/17 1:48pm

I just go to the games for fun. I don't get super sad if we lose

v1k0u6

8/6/17 1:48pm

Same here. I get pretty pumped if we win

8/6/17 3:48pm

I HATE our stupid marching band half-time. Hate, hate, hate. Double hate. Is that unpopular?

Santos L. Halper

8/6/17 1:48pm

Half time??! Our pregame is what is the disaster

OC Coug

8/6/17 2:02pm

They both need a serious overhaul.

Santos L. Halper

8/6/17 2:36pm

It would be helpful if we could actually hear them play on the field. The last

BYUBandfan

8/7/17 11:05am

All marching bands are a waste of money and super lame

TCuz

8/6/17 2:06pm

There's room for non-athlete students to participate and help create atmosphere.

8/6/17 2:08pm

Marching band fight songs are an integral piece of college football.

Seaward

8/6/17 2:21pm

I guess fight songs are cool. Uniforms are horrible, halftime shows are worse

TCuz

8/6/17 2:29pm

The CFB experience is like no other. So many things combine to make it special.

8/6/17 2:58pm

Not sure about scholarships, but 20 years ago they had "talent awards"

BYUBandfan

8/9/17 8:51am

I've changed my opinion on marching bands...

CoachSpeak

8/6/17 3:03pm

True, but I also can't think of anything I would like.

8/6/17 3:15pm

ESPN highlights, scores from other games going on, and we used to do fan competitions - like

Santos L. Halper

8/6/17 3:27pm

Who cares what happens at halftime? Go get a brownie and use the restroom.

Paco

8/6/17 3:35pm

Oh man, last year's half time show was embarrassing

BigTD

8/6/17 7:24pm

Max Hall was BYU's best QB since Ty Detmer

Triznaynay

8/6/17 1:49pm

You spelled John Beck wrong.

8/6/17 7:21pm

Pretty sure John Beck is the only BYU Qb to...

CNN is Fake News

8/6/17 7:24pm

Exactly. Max Hall > Jo. Beck

Triznaynay

8/6/17 7:25pm

Max loves me.

CNN is Fake News

8/6/17 7:30pm

I am totally on board with this. His short and mid game was sooooo ON

Thundergun Express

8/7/17 3:24pm

I never really liked Austin Collie

Triznaynay

8/6/17 1:49pm

Did you respect him though?

TNT

8/6/17 1:50pm

Yeah, he was SO good. Just couldn't ever really like him.

Triznaynay

8/6/17 1:54pm

TNT can understand that

TNT

8/6/17 2:03pm

Same. He struck me as a tool. A tool I'm glad played for us.

Dahlerbill

8/6/17 1:58pm

Collie is one of my all-time favorites. We were fortunate to have him

daki

8/6/17 2:50pm

I agree with your second statement.

Triznaynay

8/6/17 6:38pm

BYU and Utah are pretty much even teams.

8/6/17 1:50pm

Sagarin ranks since independence

Coop

8/6/17 1:56pm

Higher is better?

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 2:01pm

Pretty much the same is pretty much the same

Coop

8/6/17 2:02pm

My sarcasm needs work

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 2:05pm

Agree. We need to get some wins though

daki

8/6/17 2:53pm

2J and Holliday were both overrated coaches.

8/6/17 1:50pm

One thing that made Holladay better was the recruits he brought in

D.T. Survivor

8/6/17 3:09pm

I looked Holliday more than I liked Cahoon 1.0. hopefully Cahoon does better

crazY

8/6/17 3:57pm

Anae part 2 was really good as well.

8/6/17 1:51pm

HOW DARE YOU. THIS IS AN IRREVERSIBLE IGNORE!

TNT

8/6/17 1:52pm

Finally.

8/6/17 1:52pm

The honor code doesn't hinder us as much as people want to believe.

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 1:53pm

RE: The honor code doesn't hinder us as much as people want to believe.

TNT

8/6/17 1:55pm

This is my opinion, too...and very unpopular here.

BYUHgrad

8/6/17 5:12pm

Ben Cahoon has yet to impress me as a receiver coach.

Seaward

8/6/17 1:53pm

Cahoon lacks the ability to coach WRs to play with physicality

Sir_Ten

8/6/17 4:28pm

I have agreed with this. He's the one guy who I felt was a down grade. I really wish we'd ponied up for margin hooks

MaxxPower

8/6/17 6:45pm

Bronco has a better defensive mind than anyone on our current staff

Ulysses14

8/6/17 1:53pm

I don't think people understand what "unpopular" means

cougarnerd

8/6/17 1:56pm

You think most people agree with that?

Ulysses14

8/6/17 1:58pm

I do. Bronco is a defensive guru and most people know that.

cougarnerd

8/6/17 2:00pm

A popular thought though unrealistic was a new HC and Bronco just DC

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 2:03pm

Bronco is a great defensive mind, but Tuiaki is making me a believer

Jericho

8/6/17 2:36pm

Why didn't his mind help Virginia

Deleted

8/6/17 4:08pm

It's been one year. And IMO recruiting is more important anyway

Ulysses14

8/6/17 4:50pm

...when he was motivated.

icecougar

8/7/17 4:39pm

Kalani may very well be a better coach than Bronco, but we have no evidence for

8/6/17 1:55pm

For the fans, kalani is more likeable.

lightmann

8/6/17 6:03pm

Not for all fans

coolblue

8/7/17 6:57am

I don't want the church to spend as much money as DrKen & Fetch want

ColoSpgs

8/6/17 1:55pm

If the Church doesn't want to spend P5 money to compete with P5 schools, we should just relegate ourselves to a G5

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 1:56pm

If they're going to talk the talk, they need to walk the walk. Right now they're

DapperDan

8/6/17 2:12pm

Where exactly is BYU failing to spend?

wapiti

8/6/17 2:27pm

On players

SJS

8/6/17 2:28pm

Coaching staff, for one

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 2:29pm

Please continue.

wapiti

8/6/17 2:31pm

Because of pay, coaches don't see BYU as a destination school but rather a launching point.

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 2:35pm

Does that explain the rampant turnover in our coaching ranks????

HenderCoug

8/6/17 3:32pm

LOL. What other claims do you want to make up?

wapiti

8/6/17 4:32pm

Facilities.

The Dude Abides

8/6/17 5:01pm

I've never heard someone credibly say BYU lacks P5 facilities.

wapiti

8/6/17 10:05pm

"Everything we need". Won't argue that. It's not even close to what schools

The Dude Abides

8/6/17 11:17pm

I live in Stillwater, OK and BYU has far nicer facilities than OK St. BYU has

8/6/17 11:12pm

That's great. I live in Salt Lake City and there is a school here that has nicer

The Dude Abides

8/6/17 11:21pm

There is no competitive reason to get caught up in the facilities arms race

wapiti

8/7/17 12:10am

G5 better than indy? Good example of unpopular opinion. I totally disagree.

Squire

8/7/17 11:21am

How much do you want them to spend? Better yet, why don't you tell me how much I want them to spend?

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 1:59pm

BYU and the athletic department care more about winning than you do.

8/6/17 1:56pm

Crowton should not have been fired without

bigbluecougar

8/6/17 1:56pm

We came close to keeping Crowton another year. If Payne hits the FG to beat BSU

CoogsWin

8/6/17 4:03pm

Yes, but only a year. Thanks to the problems in the program, Crowton's goose

BeardedSpock

8/6/17 7:33pm

Crowton needed to go

hammergm

8/6/17 8:33pm

LES would be much better without the band.

8/6/17 1:57pm

1984 should have an asterisk next to it.

BlueFrog

8/6/17 1:57pm

*Greatest team of all time, not just 1984 NC

ColoSpgs

8/6/17 1:59pm

Thumbs down because to me an asterisk means something illegal

seco03

8/6/17 1:59pm

Yep. It's not like anyone voting was forced or told to vote BYU #1 like the old

rainorsnow

8/6/17 2:04pm

Wow. I'm thinking you weren't alive (or sports conscious) in 1984

gwalker

8/6/17 2:35pm

Royal blue sucks.

Tortillero

8/6/17 1:58pm

Bring back the bibs!!!

Ulysses14

8/6/17 1:59pm

RE: Bring back the bibs!!!

Fetchin Fetcher

8/6/17 2:01pm

RE: Bring back the bibs!!!

DrKennethNoisewater

8/6/17 2:02pm

RE: Bring back the bibs!!!

Martin Van Nostrand

8/6/17 2:09pm

Chris Hill is legitimately an arrogant and bad person. I don't necessarily

8/6/17 2:00pm

What Emery did was classless and what Coach K did was childish.

Rise as Utes

8/6/17 3:02pm

Yep, almost as classless as Brandon Taylor elbowing Nick Emery in the head earlier in the game.

slatecoug

8/6/17 9:25pm

2004-2017 Utah has been the better football program.

Zach Morris

8/6/17 2:01pm

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion at all, it's pretty factual actually

Duke Silver

8/6/17 2:08pm

Do a poll. I'd be surprised if less than 70% of CBer's thought byu was the better program.

Zach Morris

8/6/17 2:16pm

From 04 until today? Head to head record, team accomplishments, recruiting class

Duke Silver

8/6/17 2:44pm

So... Ocho Cuatro for one?

Zach Morris

8/6/17 2:45pm

Yes, his BYU fandom is blinding him on the surface, but deep down he

Duke Silver

8/6/17 3:07pm

I chose BYU over Alabama/Duke. There are legitimate reasons athletes should too.

8/6/17 2:03pm

Who cares if the TE is catching the ball as long as somebody is?

Metallicat

8/6/17 2:03pm

BYU's athletic department is not very good

SouthernBlueBlood

8/6/17 2:05pm

In this thread: popular opinions that people think are unpopular.

BYU81

8/6/17 2:05pm

Cougartails are just long maple bars

8/6/17 2:06pm

He asked for opinons, not facts.

Duke Silver

8/6/17 2:09pm

Lol. You said long.

Y4LYFE

8/6/17 11:47pm

We need to quit trying to go back to lavell's offense,Stanford's would be better

Cashmeousside

8/6/17 2:06pm

we're running what Detmer ran in the NFL, not LaVell's O

fulano

8/6/17 2:09pm

Yeah I know, but the fans all clamor for lavell's O

Cashmeousside

8/6/17 2:11pm

A western wing of the AAC is our long term destination/best fit

SJS

8/6/17 2:07pm

Interesting

TNT

8/6/17 2:33pm

Oh stop. You aren't interested at all.

SJS

8/6/17 2:34pm

TNT has stated this for awhile. But CB got angry about the AAC thing

TNT

8/6/17 2:38pm

CB needs to deal with it

SJS

8/6/17 2:42pm

I agree with this!

boscatar

8/7/17 8:43am

The bibs were awesome!!!!

crimedog

8/6/17 2:07pm

Taysom Hill should've left the team after 2015

BYuckner

8/6/17 2:09pm

I'm not completely on board with Kalani until he proves he can beat Utah.

Cougarfan777

8/6/17 2:10pm

Riley Nelson would've been an all-time great if he didn't break his back

8/6/17 2:13pm

This is true. Riley, while a flawed QB, deserves tons of respect

SJS

8/6/17 2:16pm

Dude was a gladiator out there

TNT

8/6/17 2:39pm

No he wouldn't have

Kerbouchard

8/6/17 2:53pm

He suffered from 5 star letdown.

rtNelson

8/6/17 3:05pm

Not sure I agree with "all time great" but he was better than CB thinks he was

BeardedSpock

8/6/17 7:38pm

LOL .... deep breath .... LOL

8/7/17 7:19am

Ty Detmer (and I hate myself for saying this) has not proven to be a good OC yet

SJS

8/6/17 2:18pm

That is an unpopular opinion on CB?

bluelands

8/6/17 4:30pm

BYU's recruiting base would have been excellent for Ken N's flexbone offense

SJS

8/6/17 2:19pm

Not to mention personnel last year. Taysom, with algie, jamaal and squall

Cashmeousside

8/6/17 2:22pm

Event staff and grounds crew have way too much power and they abuse it to

8/6/17 2:20pm

We should let Air Force ROTC do field security again

SJS

8/6/17 2:21pm

All things being equal, BYU is a better choice

Madmartigan

8/6/17 2:22pm

But things aren't equal.

BlueFrog

8/6/17 2:36pm

I think you have misinterpreted

Madmartigan

8/6/17 3:57pm

Utah and BYU fans wouldn't be so high on Utah if they'd have lost to BYU half

8/6/17 2:23pm

Yes. This is true.

hammergm

8/6/17 8:38pm

Utah sports media really does have a Utah-slanted bias.

8/6/17 2:28pm

Greg Wrubell is awesome.

8/6/17 2:29pm

I find Dave McCann entertaining when he calls BYU Football games

Dr T-bone

8/6/17 2:40pm

Giggling out loud I am

towerman

8/6/17 4:41pm

Rivalry game is oveehyped

ChinoCoug

8/6/17 2:41pm

Unless we have decent seats, I prefer watching at home on TV

Paco

8/6/17 2:43pm

I loved watching Riley Nelson and Taysom last year

jcougars7

8/6/17 2:44pm

I loved Riley before the major injuries. I felt we Could win in any game

D.T. Survivor

8/6/17 3:51pm

I couldn't stand watching Riley. The Riley Nelson years were the hardest it's ever been for me to be a BYU football fan

MaxxPower

8/6/17 7:00pm

BYU made a horrible decision to cut out Wrestling & Men's Gymnastics in 1999

BamaCoug

8/6/17 2:47pm

Some of the influential decision makers in P5 conferences were wrestlers. Don't

Y2k

8/7/17 12:41am

No joke. Makes me sick.

ArchbishopMitty

8/7/17 1:21am

Title IX would be okay if they took football out of the equation.

slatecoug

8/7/17 8:16am

If BYU moved to P5 I think we would be just as far from the playoffs.

rtNelson

8/6/17 3:03pm

If $ weren't so important, I wish our games were on KSL on Saturday afternoons

D.T. Survivor

8/6/17 3:17pm

Ty's success as an OC will never come close to what many think

ColumbusCoug

8/6/17 3:20pm

I can't stand wrubell as our play by play guy...

freeedomguy

8/6/17 3:31pm

This is interesting. He gets excited, and is a huge homer. But is fun.

rtNelson

8/6/17 3:44pm

Absolutely, I guess mine stems from him going all Eeyore when BYU is down...

freeedomguy

8/6/17 3:48pm

Wow. Who DO you like doing PBP? I've been watching and listening for 50 years

TrueBlue58

8/6/17 5:03pm

LOL

BlueFrog

8/6/17 6:06pm

I enjoy listening to Fowler and Mcann when it is on byutv...

freeedomguy

8/7/17 8:34pm

I'm not the only one!?!?

8/7/17 1:01am

Almost every Utah fan I've met in person has been pretty fair

NacoCoug

8/6/17 3:32pm

I'm glad caffeine isn't served at LES

MaxxPower

8/6/17 3:32pm

What?!?!?!?! No!!!!!!! This can't be happening!!!!!

TNT

8/6/17 3:37pm

why?

8/6/17 3:42pm

Agreed.

ArchbishopMitty

8/6/17 4:30pm

Those cougar tails tho

rainorsnow

8/6/17 5:04pm

A) People enjoy the taste. B) Those are some sheltered kids

BigTD

8/6/17 7:31pm

Agreed.

BYUHgrad

8/6/17 5:22pm

For me, I see it as something that makes us unique. I'm all for that

Sir_Ten

8/6/17 10:02pm

Unique, in a bad way

Dissenter

8/7/17 12:30am

I love the popcorn popping song

MaxxPower

8/6/17 3:33pm

The O line is going to be middling at best.

HenderCoug

8/6/17 3:33pm

Most BYU fans don't appreciate how good we have it.

DanSmith

8/6/17 3:35pm

We just had this thread a week ago.

eddog

8/6/17 3:51pm

Bronco took us two steps forward then took three steps backward

CoogsWin

8/6/17 4:02pm

I agree. 8-5 < Crowton

ChinoCoug

8/6/17 7:19pm

Kalani will have a hard time beating Bronco's 9-win average over 11 seasons

BeardedSpock

8/6/17 7:41pm

And with kalanis schedule bronco would average 7-8

CoogsWin

8/6/17 9:55pm

The dark navy block-Y helmets of the Crowton era were amazing!

Sir_Ten

8/6/17 4:20pm

list:

1984coug

8/6/17 4:23pm

Utah isn't better than us.

Little Britches

8/6/17 4:27pm

Conversely, if magic doesnt happen, if Harline drops the ball, or if Andrew

Rise as Utes

8/6/17 10:27pm

Exactly. The games are always close, indicating the teams are close

Little Britches

8/7/17 7:28am

I truly believe if the student-athletes live right, it will manifest itself on

cornellcoug

8/6/17 4:44pm

#1. BYU will never go to a college playoff, let alone win another NC. #2...

FierceArc

8/7/17 2:28am

Oops... meant for OP.

FierceArc

8/7/17 2:28am

Why do we do this to ourselves?

8/6/17 4:52pm

That Sean Covey never should have started a game

Tom Trails

8/6/17 4:57pm

Independence is actually better than being in P5

8/6/17 5:08pm

I thought our O-Line did a good job last year

Judge Judy

8/6/17 5:14pm

and I think they'll be better this year

Judge Judy

8/6/17 5:17pm

I agree with the Judge

hammergm

8/6/17 8:42pm

I don't care whether or not fans wear team colors to games.

Roko's Basilisk

8/6/17 5:15pm

The vast, vast majority of BYU fans are idiots when it comes to football acumen.

8/6/17 5:21pm

And as such, being on CB during a game is the worst place to be.

8/6/17 5:25pm

Listening to the fan comments while watching a game in LES will confirm this

BeardedSpock

8/6/17 7:35pm

I don't like our offense and don't think it will work in this NCAA climate

darkcoug

8/6/17 5:46pm

BYU gets 8 wins this season and we lose to Utah.

Turd Furguson

8/6/17 5:50pm

Find me 5 losses (or 6 with a bowl game) on this schedule. I'll wait.

andrewg3

8/7/17 1:20pm

LSU, Utah, Wisc, BSU, Miss St. Oh, and if we manage to win one of these games

Turd Furguson

8/11/17 8:34am

Oh, and I think SwagDaddy is a way better RB than Staley.

Turd Furguson

8/6/17 5:53pm

That Squally never should have lost that year of elegibility.

lightmann

8/6/17 5:58pm

BYU will beat both LSU and Utah this year.

CopperLix

8/6/17 6:29pm

Taysom is vastly overrated by cb

Little Britches

8/6/17 6:43pm

Couldn't disagree more (which makes sense you'd bring it up)

hammergm

8/6/17 8:51pm

I should say that his final season was disappointing and his legacy overall

Little Britches

8/6/17 9:55pm

Didn't we just have this discussion a week ago?

8/6/17 6:51pm

Independence > P5

VGoodwin

8/6/17 7:04pm

BYU fans should not be allowed to talk about social justice issues.

ChinoCoug

8/6/17 7:21pm

Both Riley Nelson and Jake Heaps were better QBs than people think

BeardedSpock

8/6/17 7:31pm

Jake Heaps got screwed over in 2011. R Nelson should have never been a QB at BYU

Holy Driver

8/6/17 8:07pm

We would have been better off losing to Utah State than bringing in Riley

boorad

8/6/17 9:05pm

This thread is out of control. It takes 5 minutes to find a new post.

Paco

8/6/17 10:25pm

For awhile my goal in life was to make lots of $ so I could buy a suite at LES

CFMcK

8/6/17 10:30pm

Mo langi won't succeed and wasn't worth the scholarship

MikeDitka'sStache

8/6/17 10:31pm

If nothing else, the PR is worth it.

Paco

8/6/17 10:45pm

Have the same feeling but hope it's not true.

8/7/17 12:57am

So many options....

8/6/17 11:10pm

Mangum is a good QB.

conetah

8/6/17 11:18pm

I know this was meant as a reply to the OP.

8/6/17 11:21pm

I really liked the time Joe Glenn flipped the bird to Whittingham

DazeofBlue

8/7/17 12:47am

Same

8/7/17 12:57am

This may belong in the Popular Opinion category

tony

8/7/17 5:24am

We need to run the score up on Utah when we get the chance.

Y2k

8/7/17 12:57am

The love affair with coach Lamb is way over the top

StantonMac

8/7/17 6:12am

I like Bronco more than Kalani

coolblue

8/7/17 7:02am

Can't understand this, but okay.

Turd Furguson

8/7/17 7:57am

Bronco was Awesome.

Gorum the Old

8/7/17 9:13am

If by awesome you mean he was awesome at beating teams worse

Turd Furguson

8/7/17 10:32am

As a unit, our OL will be average.

RedSox

8/7/17 7:24am

They will Stomp on the "little 8", but will get completely stuffed vs the P5 Ds

Gorum the Old

8/7/17 9:19am

Taysom Hill was not accurate enough to be a legit pro style QB.

Quacker

8/7/17 8:09am

BYU should play Hawaii every year. Priority over Utah St. game.

boscatar

8/7/17 8:44am

I really liked Bronco's firesides.

Gorum the Old

8/7/17 9:25am

This thread is way too long. It hurts my thumb.

8/8/17 2:06am

Just thought of this one today- I hate Greg wrubells idiotic biased stats

1984coug

8/8/17 10:48pm

That Squally will be a bust.

Shore10

8/11/17 2:46am

GFGH is good for our offense and fit our geographical advantages

ChinoCoug

8/20/17 4:32am

Double edged sword... our defense was getting worn out after too many 15 second

1984coug

8/20/17 1:40pm

We still outscored opponents 3-to-1 in the 4th quarter in 2015 when we were

ChinoCoug

8/20/17 1:52pm

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ChinoCoug

8/20/17 1:59pm

Hey! Welcome to the party!

DrKennethNoisewater

8/20/17 4:29pm

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