He’s essentially making the same argument of those who haven’t been super excited about independence and that being

Dec 2, 2020
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Zach Morris “Be great, cause it’s good

without a championship to play for or some sort of end goal — enough fans lose interested early in the season after a couple of losses when there really isn’t anything to play for at that point.

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Herbstreit agrees that focus on the playoff is not good for college football.

BYUHawk

12/2/20 9:56am

16 teams. Make it happen. It will help parity as well.

Turnpike Lane

12/2/20 9:56am

12 should be the number. That essentially gives you the top 2 from the P5 and

Chester Copperpot

12/2/20 10:03am

Guaranteeing a spot for G5 is the only way to fix the stupid thing. The sheer

Colorado

12/2/20 10:16am

The two at-large would have to be from G5, but like it or not a 16 team playoff

Chester Copperpot

12/2/20 10:33am

It should happen. Whether it will or not is beside the point. I stand by my

Colorado

12/2/20 10:36am

I agree it should. BYU should be ranked 8 in the CFP too, but just because it

Chester Copperpot

12/2/20 10:37am

12? That's 12 down to 6, 6 down to 3. Then what? Paper, scissors, rock?

BleedCougarBlue2

12/2/20 11:28am

Not hard at all, just do bye rounds for the top teams.

Mrs Featerbottom

12/2/20 11:51am

Holy epic failure of an idea, batman.

COACHdrn

12/2/20 11:33am

12 teams reduces the games played by one for the likely champion.

ParentingNotForSissy

12/2/20 2:33pm

24 team playoff would work also.

ParentingNotForSissy

12/2/20 2:33pm

Has to be minimum of 16 teams, and all D1 teams have to have a path to the

Born2Fish

12/2/20 10:09am

I'd be okay with that if D1 were trimmed as well. Need to up the requirements

Kajdin

12/2/20 12:47pm

Seriously. Needs to be trimmed to 64 or 80 teams.

KingDave

12/2/20 2:27pm

80 is probably realistic any more and they risk having to cut some P5 members

Kajdin

12/2/20 2:49pm

There's already 65 P5 teams

krindorr

12/2/20 3:04pm

For independents, if they’re in the top 16, they should automatically be in.

KingDave

12/2/20 2:29pm

Agreed. But the problem is continued P5 bias.

zerigke

12/2/20 10:12am

The only solution is every conference champ is in. Period. The regular season

TailgateU

12/2/20 10:25am

Yes, with all FBS conf champs getting an auto bid.

Unibro

12/2/20 10:15am

Not with this selection committee. #17 would become their ceiling for BYU.

BlueFever

12/2/20 10:15am

Agreed. 16 teams creates parity inside of CFB. If 16 teams can make it, then the top talent doesn't just pool to

specsauce

12/2/20 10:45am

Been saying 16 teams myself, too, for over 5 years.

BleedCougarBlue2

12/2/20 11:26am

Two feasible options - 12 team or 8 team

krindorr

12/2/20 1:05pm

He's absolutely right. No other major sport has the strange setup of D1 college football. The only realistic way forward

slappy

12/2/20 9:58am

24 teams like the FCS. Give everyone a chance, and don’t make the worst teams

ZacSeljaas'Stache

12/2/20 9:58am

If you have 24, why not 32 and make everyone play the first round?

Sea Chicken

12/2/20 10:00am

FCS has been doing 24 for a long time and it’s a fun bracket. 32 would be nice

ZacSeljaas'Stache

12/2/20 10:03am

I don't mind a bunch of 7-5 SEC teams getting in

Sea Chicken

12/2/20 10:10am

When you get too big you need to add incentives to make regular season count

cougarfann888

12/2/20 10:05am

because seeding matters

Sea Chicken

12/2/20 10:10am

Do you really think Alabama cares much if they play the number 32 team or the

cougarfann888

12/2/20 10:23am

yes

Sea Chicken

12/2/20 10:50am

Yeah, I think you need rewards at the top like the NFL. Byes, home field, etc..

DMVCougar

12/2/20 10:55am

I think byes are dumb in the NFL too. Home field should be incentive enough.

Sea Chicken

12/2/20 11:35am

I'd be flexible on that. Just need something to make regularly season relevant.

DMVCougar

12/2/20 11:41am

I've been listening to Cowherd and his take is that the 4 team playoff is going

Chester Copperpot

12/2/20 10:00am

Ultimately, it's in the self interest of the P5 to expand CFP to 16 teams..

Saxa

12/2/20 10:02am

And at that point we need to be in a conference as likely all 11 conf champs

Dangerous

12/2/20 10:03am

It has already begun. Look at the budget sheets of g5 teams for 5 years

StalwartBraveTrue

12/2/20 10:20am

I would just stop watching altogether. I think the G5 would have a legal case.

Colorado

12/2/20 10:24am

That’s what the P5 good ol boys want.

antiyewt

12/2/20 12:17pm

8 team playoff - conference winners from P5 plus 3 at large. Guarantee a spot for independent or G5

Gibbcoug

12/2/20 10:03am

Yes, or 16 — top 2 from each P5, 6 wildcards (2 have to be G5/indy)

UteStar

12/2/20 10:13am

If you take the top 2, why do any conference championship games?

Cougar TD

12/2/20 10:14am

Get rid of it then. Prob have to in order to play 16 team playoffs.

UteStar

12/2/20 10:16am

Deal...... It really makes too much sense.

Cougar TD

12/2/20 10:22am

Better than 4, but it isn't enough. With only 2 at-large spots from the P5, I

mwcoug

12/2/20 10:14am

Just need Trump to weigh in now

Goliath

12/2/20 10:04am

I'd love to see every conference champion in the playoffs.

Eddie

12/2/20 10:04am

Way I’ve always felt this way. Still room for some at large bids that would go

Tuskaloosa Cougar

12/2/20 10:23am

The funny thing about the money argument is conferences get a ton of money from

Cougar TD

12/2/20 10:27am

Totally agree! I really like Herbie. He's a voice of reason.

The Y's Insider

12/2/20 10:09am

How about make a real play off like EVERY OTHER SPORT in the world.

kotacoug

12/2/20 10:10am

No, CFB wants to be like ice skating and Hollywood awards shows

AZ Coug

12/2/20 10:53am

On August 1 of every year they've already disenfranchised half of all FBS teams.

StalwartBraveTrue

12/2/20 10:17am

It's basically down to 6 or 8 on signing day

mwcoug

12/2/20 10:23am

According to cowherd. I disagree with the premise that recruiting rankings

StalwartBraveTrue

12/2/20 2:40pm

All 10 conference champs and 6 wild cards, but with Play-In

Doogal McCougar

12/2/20 10:29am

I don't like using bowl games. Just have higher seeds host an extra game

Colorado

12/2/20 10:34am

There's too much power and money to just throw out the bowl system. Plus

Doogal McCougar

12/2/20 10:44am

He’s essentially making the same argument of those who haven’t been super excited about independence and that being

Zach Morris

12/2/20 10:36am

I think this is the only “playoff” in the world that consists of only 4 teams.

Heath Squashwell

12/2/20 10:41am

I don’t get why it shouldn’t be 32 teams.

sunjieming

12/2/20 10:49am

Too many games for the players, not enough room on the calendar

Doogal McCougar

12/2/20 11:12am

Just shorten the regular season by a game or two.A 32-team playoff is way better

sunjieming

12/2/20 12:43pm

It would be a fun tournament. It would add 5 weeks of games to the calendar.

Eddie

12/2/20 11:36am

I think you just shorten the season by a game or two

sunjieming

12/2/20 12:43pm

the problem is that the "haves" in FBS would rather see the sport languish than

yahtzee

12/2/20 11:27am

One of the human vices. Greed.

DMVCougar

12/2/20 1:23pm

He is correct, especially when the system makes a number of huge ....

LEDSFW

12/2/20 1:50pm

Focus on the playoff works great for basketball

Hill4Heisman

12/2/20 2:19pm

For pretty much all of these scenarios, BYU is better off in a conference

krindorr

12/2/20 2:41pm

So what if it gets bigger, that just means more P5 teams get in.

Mitty

12/2/20 3:20pm

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