Japanese fans cleaning the World Cup stadium.

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Nov 22, 2022
7:48:55am

Abe Froman Truly Addicted User

Japanese fans cleaning the World Cup stadium.

Why I think that *generally* boycotting is never the solution. Look at the reaction of this Qatari man amazed by Japanese fans picking up all the stadium garbage after the game. When cultures and different people meet, we are always richer than if isolatedpic.twitter.com/gss6Prih6P
— Antonello Guerrera (@antoguerrera) November 22, 2022

https://twitter.com/antoguerrera/status/1595060537297190914

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Japanese fans cleaning the World Cup stadium.

Abe Froman

11/22/22 7:48am

The Qataris are used to imported semi-slave labor to do that stuff for them

Indy Coug

11/22/22 7:57am

Do you really believe they're semi-slaves? Or just paid much less than they

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:06am

Listen, as a former resident of Saudi Arabia, I'm familiar with many stories about imported labor who

Indy Coug

11/22/22 8:12am

Yes! Very sad and lonely and without recourse in most cases

BlueInfidel

11/22/22 8:23am

I too despise Saudi Arabia

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:23am

They are essentially slaves.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:16am

I'd argue less so than those who built the smartphone you're blasting me on

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:31am

Then argue it, because all you've done so far is assert it.

joelvandyne

11/22/22 8:36am

I'm not that smart. I guess I'll just assert it.

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:42am

Not to mention agriculture (even in US), hospitality, garment production, etc

seacougar

11/22/22 11:33am

It sounds like you need to leave your bubble and experience other cultures

Sandy Lyle

11/22/22 8:20am

I think I'm probably the only person on this board who has

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:25am

There are literal slaves in the Middle East

bluelands

11/22/22 8:22am

It's extremely well documented. This is terrible treatment of humans.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:22am

I'm not clicking on a

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:29am

Then click on the next one. Or Google any of the dozens and dozens of articles

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:39am

I trust what I've lived. While Indy has experience in the region

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:48am

Don't worry I've put a ton together below for you.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:51am

Don't keep burying your head in the sand. Try to learn a little

Sandy Lyle

11/22/22 8:40am

Good thing that article is from 2013

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:47am

Well, I've had some of those"slaves" over for Thanksgiving. Simple, bad English

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:57am

So basically your response to it is... "Trust me, I've been there."

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:01am

I'm not asking you to trust me. I trust me. But I don't trust journalists

Zooropa

11/22/22 9:12am

So basically your different values are that the kafala system was on the up and

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:14am

The more I've experienced, the less I believe what I see in editorials and

seacougar

11/22/22 11:19am

It beats not letting them in to work at all.

Genghis Spreads

11/22/22 8:56am

That's an oddly similar argument that was made for slavery.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:17am

Slaves were brought against their will, by definition.

Genghis Spreads

11/22/22 9:22am

They were brought with false promises. There is a lot of documentation

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:31am

Some were. Most weren't.

Zooropa

11/22/22 9:51am

Some were, but that's not an excuse to shut out everybody from coming to work.

Genghis Spreads

11/22/22 10:08am

Perhaps for indentured servants. Slavery is not entered into willfully.

seacougar

11/22/22 11:40am

I presume you're referring specifically to southern plantation slavery in the US

seacougar

11/22/22 11:46am

You actually believe CBers are fully aware adults?

TheLoanArranger

11/22/22 8:57am

Most North Americans would benefit from spending some time outside of their

seacougar

11/22/22 11:36am

A friend who lived in the UAE described it as slavery.

King of Y

11/22/22 12:38pm

RE: A friend who lived in the UAE described it as slavery.

Zooropa

11/22/22 12:44pm

RE: A friend who lived in the UAE described it as slavery.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 2:35pm

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fattycoug

11/22/22 6:52pm

And here in the states we support institutions of higher learning boycotting...

COACHdrn

11/22/22 7:58am

I agree. Diversity is our strength. We should apply this philosophy at home in our jobs, schools, and neighborhoods.

11/22/22 7:59am

Yes, pick up trash and you are welcome in my neighborhood!

Plato

11/22/22 8:14am

Everyone could learn a ton from the Japanese when it comes to respect

Medute

11/22/22 8:03am

Great find. It's interesting how different cultures view this type of work.

goodcleanfun

11/22/22 8:14am

They probably have more lower wage people doing the work.

Plato

11/22/22 8:15am

I wish people at LES would do that as well. It embarrassing how much trash is

pegushin

11/22/22 8:28am

BYU could solve part of that problem by having large garbage cans at the bottom

Nat Gas Man

11/22/22 8:40am

Probably don’t want all the smell & bugs that comes with it. Wouldnt want to see

pegushin

11/22/22 8:45am

I was sure the lone thumbs down was uofuguy

Mitty

11/22/22 6:29pm

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