Then argue it, because all you've done so far is assert it.

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Nov 22, 2022
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Japanese fans cleaning the World Cup stadium.

Abe Froman

11/22/22 7:48am

The Qataris are used to imported semi-slave labor to do that stuff for them

Indy Coug

11/22/22 7:57am

Do you really believe they're semi-slaves? Or just paid much less than they

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:06am

Listen, as a former resident of Saudi Arabia, I'm familiar with many stories about imported labor who

Indy Coug

11/22/22 8:12am

Yes! Very sad and lonely and without recourse in most cases

BlueInfidel

11/22/22 8:23am

I too despise Saudi Arabia

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:23am

They are essentially slaves.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:16am

I'd argue less so than those who built the smartphone you're blasting me on

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:31am

Then argue it, because all you've done so far is assert it.

joelvandyne

11/22/22 8:36am

I'm not that smart. I guess I'll just assert it.

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:42am

Not to mention agriculture (even in US), hospitality, garment production, etc

seacougar

11/22/22 11:33am

It sounds like you need to leave your bubble and experience other cultures

Sandy Lyle

11/22/22 8:20am

I think I'm probably the only person on this board who has

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:25am

There are literal slaves in the Middle East

bluelands

11/22/22 8:22am

It's extremely well documented. This is terrible treatment of humans.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:22am

I'm not clicking on a

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:29am

Then click on the next one. Or Google any of the dozens and dozens of articles

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:39am

I trust what I've lived. While Indy has experience in the region

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:48am

Don't worry I've put a ton together below for you.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:51am

Don't keep burying your head in the sand. Try to learn a little

Sandy Lyle

11/22/22 8:40am

Good thing that article is from 2013

chrisoc13

11/22/22 8:47am

Well, I've had some of those"slaves" over for Thanksgiving. Simple, bad English

Zooropa

11/22/22 8:57am

So basically your response to it is... "Trust me, I've been there."

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:01am

I'm not asking you to trust me. I trust me. But I don't trust journalists

Zooropa

11/22/22 9:12am

So basically your different values are that the kafala system was on the up and

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:14am

The more I've experienced, the less I believe what I see in editorials and

seacougar

11/22/22 11:19am

It beats not letting them in to work at all.

Genghis Spreads

11/22/22 8:56am

That's an oddly similar argument that was made for slavery.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:17am

Slaves were brought against their will, by definition.

Genghis Spreads

11/22/22 9:22am

They were brought with false promises. There is a lot of documentation

chrisoc13

11/22/22 9:31am

Some were. Most weren't.

Zooropa

11/22/22 9:51am

Some were, but that's not an excuse to shut out everybody from coming to work.

Genghis Spreads

11/22/22 10:08am

Perhaps for indentured servants. Slavery is not entered into willfully.

seacougar

11/22/22 11:40am

I presume you're referring specifically to southern plantation slavery in the US

seacougar

11/22/22 11:46am

You actually believe CBers are fully aware adults?

TheLoanArranger

11/22/22 8:57am

Most North Americans would benefit from spending some time outside of their

seacougar

11/22/22 11:36am

A friend who lived in the UAE described it as slavery.

King of Y

11/22/22 12:38pm

RE: A friend who lived in the UAE described it as slavery.

Zooropa

11/22/22 12:44pm

RE: A friend who lived in the UAE described it as slavery.

chrisoc13

11/22/22 2:35pm

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fattycoug

11/22/22 6:52pm

And here in the states we support institutions of higher learning boycotting...

COACHdrn

11/22/22 7:58am

I agree. Diversity is our strength. We should apply this philosophy at home in our jobs, schools, and neighborhoods.

Virginia Ute

11/22/22 7:59am

Yes, pick up trash and you are welcome in my neighborhood!

Plato

11/22/22 8:14am

Everyone could learn a ton from the Japanese when it comes to respect

Medute

11/22/22 8:03am

Great find. It's interesting how different cultures view this type of work.

goodcleanfun

11/22/22 8:14am

They probably have more lower wage people doing the work.

Plato

11/22/22 8:15am

I wish people at LES would do that as well. It embarrassing how much trash is

pegushin

11/22/22 8:28am

BYU could solve part of that problem by having large garbage cans at the bottom

Nat Gas Man

11/22/22 8:40am

Probably don’t want all the smell & bugs that comes with it. Wouldnt want to see

pegushin

11/22/22 8:45am

I was sure the lone thumbs down was uofuguy

Mitty

11/22/22 6:29pm

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