Where BYU is now is basically where they've been for most of the last 40 years

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Nov 18, 2015
9:29:53am

Indy Coug All-American

Some people seem to have very selective memories of what BYU used to be.

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I am accepting BYU football for what it is. A nice little program.

Mathew

11/18/15 9:12am

I need to get to this point with football and basketball

docrick

11/18/15 9:16am

Basketball is in the same discussion, just doesn't get as much attention

Bonoman

11/18/15 10:24am

There are a lot of great things in this world. I realize after the 2013 loss to

Backcountry

11/18/15 12:49pm

BYU was successful because we innovated in a radical way. I believe a "no punt"

Iman23

11/18/15 9:20am

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East1999

11/18/15 9:22am

There are numbers to back it up. I'm really surprised nobody is doing it yet.

QBarrister

11/18/15 10:47am

So just like 100 other d1a teams?

byu1

11/18/15 9:25am

yeah. we're a nice little sideshow in college football. nothing more. and

johnnycarson

11/18/15 9:25am

Little Programs don't average 60K+ for 30 years, Rank#9 in BBall attendance

HawkeyeCoug

11/18/15 9:29am

I don't think he's talking about size and attendance stuff.

southernfriedcougar

11/18/15 9:31am

If only championships were won based on attendance

Upanddown

11/18/15 9:36am

nobody cares about attendance these days. look at most of the p5 programs on

johnnycarson

11/18/15 9:36am

Tell that to Idaho

HawkeyeCoug

11/18/15 9:44am

BYU is only a destination school if you're a Mormon

reddead

11/18/15 11:19am

Average students don't survive Governors School or Basis

HawkeyeCoug

11/18/15 1:03pm

It sounds like we agree, since your anecdotes prove my point

reddead

11/18/15 10:16pm

It's not 1984 anymore Tex

Backcountry

11/18/15 12:54pm

BYU may be desired by kids in your ward, but not outside of it. The rest of the

DoseOfReality

11/18/15 1:20pm

we're not averaging 60K+ anymore or have you not noticed?

icecougar

11/18/15 2:44pm

Where BYU is now is basically where they've been for most of the last 40 years

Indy Coug

11/18/15 9:29am

agreed. except we haven't had a special season since 1996

johnnycarson

11/18/15 9:32am

And BYU hadn't had a special season prior to 1996 since 1984

Indy Coug

11/18/15 9:35am

And BYU didn't do much before 1984

crazY

11/18/15 9:36am

1980 wasn't bad, 1981 was good, 1983 was pretty exciting, 1985 was better than

ArcticKat

11/18/15 10:39pm

1985 was a pretty special year too. 1981-1985 was a great run.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/15 9:36am

In 1985, BYU lost to a 1-10 UTEP team they were favored to beat by 37.5

Indy Coug

11/18/15 9:37am

Also beat previously undefeated and #4 ranked AFA.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/15 9:55am

Completely agree. That 10 win season was better than any season

donnerstag

11/18/15 11:23am

And finished 11-3 and ranked #16 with a Heisman Finalist. You know numbers, but I don't agree with your conclusions.

Gentleman Stan

11/18/15 12:01pm

I would guess you're probably thinking of 1983, not 1985

BeardedSpock

11/18/15 9:40am

Really, 1979-1985. 6 ranked finishes, 5 Heisman Finalists, 4 Holiday Bowl wins, and of course a National Championship.

Gentleman Stan

11/18/15 12:05pm

How is a top 10 ranking not special?

HawkeyeCoug

11/18/15 9:37am

Regardless, starting with 1984, there have been two special seasons

Indy Coug

11/18/15 9:39am

The head coach set the expectations, not the fans. Bronco has talked NC for

Ash

11/18/15 9:47am

This attitude has always mystified me. What should Bronco be telling the fans

BeardedSpock

11/18/15 9:49am

In the same fans would be ripping them for that to

byu1

11/18/15 9:55am

How about "We're going to beat the Utes" - and then actually beating Utah

reddead

11/18/15 11:20am

Because that's the only alternative. I'll give you a mindless thumbs up too!

Ash

11/18/15 12:31pm

I expect any self-respecting coach and program to shoot for #1

Indy Coug

11/18/15 9:50am

RE: The head coach set the expectations, not the fans. Bronco has talked NC for

JuanitaCougar

11/18/15 11:58am

You shouldn't set goals that you aren't willing to pay the price for

donnerstag

11/18/15 12:04pm

Exactly. The fact is BYU is not even close to the realm of possibility right now

Ash

11/18/15 12:34pm

Actually, it was you who set the expectation. Many of us thought it was a good

RebelScum

11/18/15 12:53pm

Do you expect the same approach from your boss? Bishop? Coach?

Ash

11/18/15 2:34pm

Not sure what you're getting at. But, if my boss, Bishop, or coach states a

RebelScum

11/18/15 2:59pm

This is true. When BM was first hired there was lots of talk about excellence

ArcticKat

11/18/15 2:07pm

he mentioned as recently as last aug. no joke

run26

11/18/15 4:07pm

So you're saying that 2008 is our year? I can't wait!

foofcoug

11/18/15 9:41am

Had it existed back then, I would have loved to have read Cougarboard after

BeardedSpock

11/18/15 9:36am

Cougarboard in 1991

PenrynCoug

11/18/15 9:56am

RE: Cougarboard in 1991

PenrynCoug

11/18/15 10:01am

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East1999

11/18/15 9:39am

Sure you can try to improve it, but you can also be realistic

Indy Coug

11/18/15 9:46am

Anyone that looks at things critically has to agree with this......

Bonoman

11/18/15 10:37am

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East1999

11/18/15 10:44am

I totally agree. It feels like the program has been stuck in a rut for years

Bonoman

11/18/15 12:35pm

This is the post. And I agree that most angst is based on the fact that peers

Ash

11/18/15 12:37pm

I think you can include Boise St as part of that measuring stick...

icecougar

11/19/15 11:14am

People fool themselves by looking at win totals and complete domination of Utah.

DoseOfReality

11/18/15 12:36pm

Oklahoma was ranked when we beat them and ranked most of the season...

icecougar

11/19/15 4:26pm

I don't remember many 4 game losing streaks to the rival over the last 40 years.

Backcountry

11/18/15 12:51pm

and very jaded opinions of where it is today

icecougar

11/19/15 4:27pm

A little reminder

BigYfan

11/18/15 9:38am

if bronco could beat utah a lot of his critics would be quiet

johnnycarson

11/18/15 9:41am

Utah was only slightly better than UTEP

BigYfan

11/18/15 9:46am

Utah is winning with a BYU coach

HawkeyeCoug

11/18/15 9:48am

It's all I freaking care about. BYU is a mediocre program. We will never win

Backcountry

11/18/15 12:53pm

I would take Edwards last 10 over Bronco's 10

concolor couguar

11/18/15 11:59am

I'm guessing that in Lavell's last 10 years, if today's ranking system had been

RebelScum

11/18/15 1:07pm

Pretty sure the AP ranking is still in use today and rpi has nothing to do with

concolor couguar

11/18/15 1:34pm

It is actually pretty astounding BYU is in the headlines in Football and

Fdnman

11/18/15 9:44am

Except Lavell hired assistants who were NBA caliber coaches and Bronco...

GritHead

11/18/15 11:36am

If Lavell hired NBA coaches

BigYfan

11/18/15 11:37am

you went from realistic to super pessimistic in about 3 lines. You lost me.

hxmCougar2000

11/18/15 11:43am

RE: I am accepting BYU football for what it is. A nice little program.

JuanitaCougar

11/18/15 11:47am

Navy of the West

run26

11/18/15 12:28pm

Signed, The Lone Wolf/Backcountry in 2011.

Backcountry

11/18/15 12:41pm

This comment deserves no response...not in line with the Spirit of BYU at all

coot20

11/18/15 1:06pm

it is what it is....my responses

icecougar

11/18/15 2:13pm

This is very close to how I view the program. I appreciate much of what BM has

ArcticKat

11/19/15 12:28pm

This Saturday shouldn't be painful (knock on wood)

bluegato

11/18/15 2:23pm

OMH!! please tell me Fresno doesn't have a struggling freshman QB!!

icecougar

11/19/15 4:43pm

Bluegato probably isn't old enough to remember 2005...

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