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RdF3
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Which I can imagine can be really hard to keep that in and not be able to talk
About it with your peers.
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P Norton laying the smack-down. Every Cougar fan should know this.
LegitCoug
1/29/16 8:20am
i F O nly there was a place we could talk in secret.
Cougarclaw
1/29/16 8:24am
Or not at all 😊
ArcticKat
1/29/16 8:44am
and the media didn't exist
Acorn
1/29/16 8:50am
Because a coordinated effort to spike stories and censor bad press always works
Linescratcher
1/29/16 8:26am
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kunarcougar
1/29/16 8:29am
Sure. That's pretty much what they do now.
Linescratcher
1/29/16 8:32am
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kunarcougar
1/29/16 8:41am
I think it was a problem this time, they made no announcement
mogelijk
1/29/16 11:55am
I don't think anyone is asking BYU to change what they do - we just want the
crack
1/29/16 8:31am
I'm asking BYU to change what they do.
Linescratcher
1/29/16 8:34am
I think that is a different discussion- although I would like to see some
crack
1/29/16 8:47am
RE: I think that is a different discussion- although I would like to see some
blu76
1/29/16 9:18am
That's the best way to handle it - imo. Between the student and Bishop or other
crack
1/29/16 9:24am
RE: I think that is a different discussion- although I would like to see some
MoMoney88
1/29/16 11:23am
No it's not - there are all kinds of HC breaches that I know about that have never hit CB or Twitter.
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 8:53am
IF that's the case--and it might be--then there's not a problem to address.
Linescratcher
1/29/16 8:55am
they're trying to limit the leaks to 100%. It won't happen (obviously) but it's reasonable to push to get as close
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 9:58am
Discretion is a thing of the past. Sad but true.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/29/16 12:47pm
This is true, but it is unrealistic to assume it is possible to go back to the
Iman23
1/29/16 8:27am
I agree, but...
LegitCoug
1/29/16 8:34am
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DaCougEye
1/29/16 11:51am
troll - just go away
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 11:52am
The honor code was set up by a student council in the 40's. It is outdated.
Gene Frenkle
1/29/16 5:01pm
It seems to me it isn't the UU fans with cameras that he is talking about. It
Real G Man
1/29/16 8:36am
Agreed. I think you are right. Nobody eats their own better than BYU fans
Iman23
1/29/16 8:37am
So let the Ute fans break all the stories. BYU fans keep their traps shut.
Cougarclaw
1/29/16 8:40am
Yeah, letting your rival set the narrative is a great idea.
Iman23
1/29/16 8:41am
So let's counter with "none of our business" or the like instead of digging deeper into the story and shouting from
CalGTR
1/29/16 8:50am
Yewts will be Yewts - but Cougs putting it out there is ridiculous and we should call them on it.
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 8:54am
Why is it necessary to be "forced" to hand out stiffer penalties...
Smoke Monster
1/29/16 8:29am
Because the LDS church is sensitive to any bad PR from local or national media
byukarl
1/29/16 8:50am
Mormons eat their own!
Tsisquan
1/29/16 6:05pm
Moreso than any culture I know of.
MatthiasG
1/29/16 11:35pm
Once details are known, folks will have expectations with respect to punishment. If the details are not known, BYU can
CalGTR
1/29/16 8:55am
Folks need to stop picking up stones and need to mind their own business
Smoke Monster
1/29/16 8:56am
Absolutely. And that includes BYU fans.
CalGTR
1/29/16 8:59am
Uh, look what group you're talking about.
southernfriedcougar
1/29/16 9:05am
It's about trying to establish a culture of keeping HC issues private. No sense giving up due to some folks that seem
CalGTR
1/29/16 9:08am
The only way this is honestly going to happen is by changing the Honor code...
Smoke Monster
1/29/16 9:13am
There is much improvement to be made among our fanbase on this issue even without changes to how the HC is administered.
CalGTR
1/29/16 9:17am
You can't fix a fan base lol
thebruce
1/29/16 9:47am
This is exactly correct. Anything else is a crappy band-aid.
Linescratcher
1/29/16 9:17am
Which brings us to the next question. Why is some kid drinking beer or having
Singcat
1/29/16 9:42am
Really, how well do you understand the Gospel? Maybe the church should end all
Northern Blue
1/29/16 9:59am
Absolutely, don't give up. But look what you're fighting against.
southernfriedcougar
1/29/16 10:48am
Spot on... That is a very sad reality.
Smoke Monster
1/29/16 10:49am
It's certainly a very uphill climb.
CalGTR
1/29/16 11:02am
"It was out of love and concern" I discussed your problems w everyone except you
MatthiasG
1/29/16 11:38pm
sometimes these HC breeches are against the law and will get the police involved - and all schools have reputations that
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 8:55am
And in Utah, even if it doesn't break the law, it offends some "very righteous"
Wedgetail
1/29/16 9:22am
Breaking the law is a whole different matter ...
Smoke Monster
1/29/16 9:36am
I don't think it's so black and white - plenty of laws are regularly broken but only selectively enforced. Let's take
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 9:46am
Or...players could stop doing stupid stuff. That would help.
Iman23
1/29/16 8:33am
The discussion is not about the stupid stuff the players do it is about the
Real G Man
1/29/16 8:42am
lol ^^^ first posts about being "realistic" just above.
southernfriedcougar
1/29/16 8:55am
If you didn't do stupid stuff I wouldn't be forced to gossip. Gosh!
Metallicat
1/29/16 8:58am
You lost me at: "I know these guys are kids and make mistakes...BUT". No need for the "but".
Desert Rat
1/29/16 9:13am
There you have it. Fans like Iman just love casting stones, and won't ever stop.
messi
1/30/16 9:54am
I'm not sure how you got that out of my post. Just making the point
Iman23
1/30/16 6:23pm
For you, it might not be hard to keep it. Don't speak for them as if you know.
messi
1/30/16 7:28pm
Whatevs, bruh.
Iman23
1/30/16 7:45pm
I bet he expects to keep receiving his inside info though. Just not you. Only
RdF3
1/29/16 8:39am
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East1999
1/29/16 8:39am
Which I can imagine can be really hard to keep that in and not be able to talk
RdF3
1/29/16 8:41am
That is fine, but you can't hide who is suspended, you can hide the how long and
Bluedomination
1/29/16 8:40am
He should have tagged Criddle.
slowhiteguy
1/29/16 8:40am
You'd think Criddle would have the slightest concept of this.
southernfriedcougar
1/29/16 8:56am
But he didn't say anything...just that he knew good and bad stuff
Wear Blue
1/29/16 11:51pm
I guess I don't understand why social media is forcing BYU to impose harsher
P-Boy Squad
1/29/16 8:42am
It's much easier to go lite if it's not in the media. All schools react the same. They all have reputations to protect
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 8:58am
^^^^
thebruce
1/29/16 9:00am
Because it's not always up to BYU.. look north
byukarl
1/29/16 9:05am
Gossip is so rampant, especially in religious cultures, because it reinforces
fierce16
1/29/16 8:57am
Just said the same above. This sort of thing will never stop.
southernfriedcougar
1/29/16 9:06am
Mormons are the worst at gossip.
LeoCougar
1/29/16 3:25pm
I don't think it's too much to ask for "fans" and "insiders" to leave it alone
Wedgetail
1/29/16 8:59am
Dude. I love this post.
LegitCoug
1/29/16 9:09am
Very well said.
Gavin
1/29/16 9:41pm
I understand what he is saying, but don't buy it. Either the penalty fits the
Real Men Wear Blue
1/29/16 9:10am
every school administrator cares if it's in the media - every corporation cares if it's in the media and they all
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 9:49am
So is he saying Kalani doesn't want HC violations reported to the HCO or that
Scratch
1/29/16 9:18am
It just reduces your flexibility when things become public, because now you have to be concerned to some extent with PR.
CalGTR
1/29/16 9:22am
Yup, and with HC violations, each case should be treated differently based on
whoneedscorners?
1/29/16 9:35am
waste of a time to vent about this. This is 2016 and this is how the mass
idacoug
1/29/16 9:26am
We can't stop 100% of it, but we can certainly limit it. Lost of HC breaches go unreported to the media. We should try
HarlemCoug
1/29/16 9:51am
Isn't P Norton the guy that threw the twitter tantrum over the Utah game cancellation?
Turnpike Lane
1/29/16 9:29am
Good luck with that. All it takes is some player missing games or suddenly
Singcat
1/29/16 9:31am
Why does BYU so severely punish people that have public issues?
g$
1/29/16 9:34am
This is correct. I posted above on this but you said it much better.
Singcat
1/29/16 9:48am
agreed
byukarl
1/29/16 10:55am
has anyone been tweeting out what a player did? I haven't seen it in a long time
palangi
1/29/16 10:10am
To satisfy both needs: 1) Don't further expose wrong doings of athletes 2) Allow fans to be fans
ocmyhome
1/29/16 10:34am
It's hard enough with all the Ute convenience store clerks
RedSox
1/29/16 10:56am
RE: P Norton laying the smack-down. Every Cougar fan should know this.
MoMoney88
1/29/16 11:11am
It's a nice thought and I'll certainly do my part
KingDave
1/29/16 11:35am
The issue here: Insiders. Then the regime shouldn't info on suspensions.
NacoCoug
1/29/16 11:55am
He assumes that leaks are always the result of fans
cougXor
1/29/16 12:18pm
It's sad to me that this even had to be posted . . . because it's obvious.
Gavin
1/29/16 12:23pm
A FREAKING MEN! This is exactly how the honor code should be used anyway. Since
Bluedarts
1/29/16 1:17pm
I completely agree
Mabuhay Coug
1/29/16 1:37pm
It is sad to think that a roommate of a student at ASU could drop a dime to the
Gene Frenkle
1/30/16 4:18am
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