also, you totally whiffed on your assessment of Pau'u, Warner and Bernard...

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Jul 31, 2017
8:59:42pm

icecougar All-American

also, you totally whiffed on your assessment of Pau'u, Warner and Bernard...

...those guys strength is playing in space and dropping into coverage. They combined for 7 INT's, 9 PBU's, and had 2 pick 6's. If anything the knock on them has been their ability to rush the QB and that's only because they've been so good at dropping into coverage that coaches don't use them much to rush the QB. They are a major reason BYU was one of the best in the nation last year at takeaways and will be again this year.

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I'd really like a Ute fan to give a red goggled view of the matchups to counter

ColumbusCoug

7/31/17 4:39pm

Um Utah hasn't lost to BYU in almost a decade. Fin.

SandYFan

7/31/17 4:43pm

That fact alone tips the scales in BYU's favor. Streaks are broken every year.

pt crasher

7/31/17 6:27pm

Meh let's just wait and see how the game turns out

7/31/17 4:44pm

Here's one from uf.n.

DB Cooper

7/31/17 4:45pm

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Abe Froman

7/31/17 4:50pm

How long until KWhitt forces a return to 3 yards and a cloud of dust?

Left Shark Coug

7/31/17 6:01pm

Not until after the BYU game.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:06pm

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Abe Froman

7/31/17 6:19pm

No, sometime after the BYU game.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:33pm

first bad game Williams has

icecougar

7/31/17 7:38pm

Won't this be the inexperienced d lines' third game, not second?

Florwood

7/31/17 7:49pm

I'll be happy to.

displacedute

7/31/17 4:51pm

Keep in mind, that's with my red goggles firmly in place.

displacedute

7/31/17 4:55pm

do you believe BYU's WR and TE situation is worse than 2015, 2016?

Bob Vance

7/31/17 4:59pm

Yes, absolutely.

displacedute

7/31/17 5:08pm

This post shows that you haven't kept up on the byu wr/Te situation

Backcountry

7/31/17 5:12pm

Those are the stats.

displacedute

7/31/17 5:37pm

Every year we hear about the all-world WRs, QB, and QB of Utah from Ute fans

Bob Vance

7/31/17 5:43pm

Tim Patrick is playing in the NFL.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:15pm

sorry, I meant CB, not RB. I agree you guys have put some guys in the NFL

Bob Vance

7/31/17 6:23pm

Sure, but for this game he's only got to last 6 more weeks.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:32pm

he was a UFA and has already bounced to another team. His prospects for sticking

icecougar

7/31/17 8:11pm

Bushman.

Cochise Cat

7/31/17 5:38pm

Is a freshman.

displacedute

7/31/17 5:43pm

Uh, both of those guys are 3* guys that switched from lower tier offers to Utes

Bob Vance

7/31/17 5:57pm

Both of those guys are 4* guys as I pointed out.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:00pm

I grant you a red goggled view, but even your own friends at block u do not see

Bob Vance

7/31/17 6:14pm

My friends at Block U aren't paying attention.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:38pm

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7/31/17 8:01pm

It's okay that you don't follow BYU recruiting much. I don't follow the Utes

Bob Vance

7/31/17 5:40pm

Pearson and juergens are highly repkacable. Kurtz was the biggest recruiting

Backcountry

7/31/17 5:52pm

If Pearson, Juergens and Kurtz are so easy to replace...

displacedute

7/31/17 5:58pm

It's not that hard to accept when you have a timing based offense, a running

Bob Vance

7/31/17 6:25pm

But that's EXACTLY what this entire board is saying about Utah's secondary.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:40pm

I think most of our passing problems are because we didnt have a d1 caliber

Backcountry

7/31/17 11:50pm

ute fans always say BYU can't run on their DL but the past 4 games have...

icecougar

7/31/17 8:51pm

Sloppy game last year on both sides...... BUT +3 in the TO margin

bja13

7/31/17 9:42pm

Yes, you'd think that would be a game clincher but it proves the negative...

icecougar

8/1/17 7:50pm

man, why can't there be any sane Utes on here who can engage in REAL convo.

7/31/17 5:05pm

Didn't he specifically ask for red goggles on?

displacedute

7/31/17 5:08pm

Dang. I was hoping you'd come back and say "I wasn't joking."

7/31/17 5:13pm

Fred Warner and Francis Bernard aren't great in coverage? Eh?

shakinbaker

7/31/17 5:59pm

Also, the "Mangum wasn't good against good defenses" critique is funny. He was

shakinbaker

7/31/17 6:01pm

At the end of the season, against SJSU, Wagner, Fresno, and USU?

displacedute

7/31/17 6:09pm

The Touchdown Club of Columbus did.

shakinbaker

7/31/17 6:13pm

A 22-year old true freshman.

displacedute

7/31/17 6:41pm

If you're going to count that against USC who had the

7/31/17 6:58pm

Could also be coaching/scheme as well. Will be interesting to see how Tanner

bja13

7/31/17 7:18pm

Actually he spent much of 2015 creating plays with his legs and that's

7/31/17 7:34pm

I get what you're saying but Tanner is NOT a rushing threat.

bja13

7/31/17 7:45pm

Never said he was. You said creating plays. You can use your legs to

7/31/17 7:54pm

also, you totally whiffed on your assessment of Pau'u, Warner and Bernard...

icecougar

7/31/17 8:59pm

Tanner wasn't good against P5 defenses except 1, the one that he threw for about

kooogar

7/31/17 9:40pm

.....On 56 attempts with 3 INT's

bja13

7/31/17 9:57pm

Maybe ask Vegas: it's a toss-up but for the standard 3 point home advantage

byujdmba

7/31/17 5:49pm

Ill bite, but I will try to be as neutral as possible based on what I know about

Rise as Utes

7/31/17 5:51pm

Good analysis. Disagree about our OL

shakinbaker

7/31/17 6:08pm

I like Mangum, I just havent seen enough of him to say that he will be the next

Rise as Utes

7/31/17 6:22pm

Pretty good take here. Only places I might disagree are OL, TE, and RB

Chambana Coug

7/31/17 6:33pm

I can see the argument for your Oline. RB I think is pretty even, but

Rise as Utes

7/31/17 6:50pm

I think experience will be an advantage early on.

Chambana Coug

8/1/17 9:37am

I can agree with this.

Rise as Utes

8/1/17 9:44am

Definitely red goggled, though I see you tried to be fair.

7/31/17 6:45pm

Well admittedly I just dont know as much about your roster and vice versa. So

Rise as Utes

7/31/17 6:56pm

I agree a lot of stuff is "wait and see." Just some stuff that's misleading.

7/31/17 7:00pm

Oh, there's this too.

displacedute

7/31/17 5:53pm

This just in, BYU cancels rivalry game over recruiting rankings

Bob Vance

7/31/17 6:28pm

Yet Utah's coaches make sure to secure those as irrelevant, as the

7/31/17 7:03pm

+3 in the TO department and still lost.

bja13

7/31/17 7:13pm

Those don't count

TFL

7/31/17 7:16pm

They also don't count our huge list of transfers

7/31/17 9:26pm

Just visit a yewt fan site, if they actually have one.

CougarThug

7/31/17 8:36pm

I don't know enough about BYU's roster to speak

TFL

7/31/17 9:06pm

Don't Utah fans post what they want to believe?

7/31/17 9:27pm

Sounds just like what I see on CB.

Rise as Utes

7/31/17 10:39pm

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