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Sep 21, 2017
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BYUheaven
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He is talking about our offense. Last year both childs and mika camped out in
The paint. We didn't get any penetration because the key was clogged with 4 bigs.
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BYU resurgence! the case for optimism and an improved season. Part II
roseyscenario
9/21/17 9:15am
#DietCokeNumbsUs
TheWanderer
9/21/17 9:17am
What are these "summer games" you are referring to?
Indy Coug
9/21/17 9:18am
Pick-up games/scrimmages in annex/mc
thebruce
9/21/17 9:33am
I think he's mostly referring to scrimmages when it comes to stats tho
thebruce
9/21/17 9:36am
I saw Luke Worthington last week and he's much thinner than his freshman year
Indy Coug
9/21/17 9:19am
I'm sure his instagram page on hair products is still thick as ever
Y4LYFE
9/21/17 8:37pm
I expect Cougs to finish distant third in WCC.
PhilPete
9/21/17 9:21am
No Nick Emery?
cougsrule
9/21/17 9:22am
I am saddened by this omission...
teancum
9/21/17 1:45pm
Except that it is a mistaken comment. People need a word search.
roseyscenario
9/21/17 1:53pm
Guess I meant that I was sad Nick hasn't been lighting it up this summer.
teancum
9/21/17 2:00pm
Nick is very valuable; good on offense and perhaps BYU's best defender.
roseyscenario
9/21/17 2:25pm
"the most effective 5 on the court could be Haws, Childs, Bryant, Emery, Seljaas
jreid191
9/21/17 1:54pm
Do we have the numbers to play Small?
chodilicus
9/21/17 6:37pm
Sorry, wrong spot
chodilicus
9/21/17 6:39pm
Any thoughts on Heath Schroyer?
TheWanderer
9/21/17 9:26am
Consensus is he is good and seems to be lead assistant.
roseyscenario
9/21/17 10:16am
Excellent update. However, the mediocre schedule falsely enhances expectations.
MichCoug
9/21/17 9:35am
What can we expect out of Dastrup, the player with the most big time offers?
Hinta
9/21/17 9:59am
Payton is highly skilled and could be key if he puts it all together. Not yet.
roseyscenario
9/21/17 10:08am
I think Dastrup could be a big key to this season.
Oldcougfan
9/21/17 11:33am
We really need the starter at the 5 to be Dastrup over Luke
beauso79
9/22/17 10:36am
Yes we very much need Dastrup to put it together. Would make very big difference
roseyscenario
9/22/17 12:44pm
I thought Andrus was serviceable as a freshman. Just needed some more weight
beauso79
9/22/17 1:06pm
Believe Andrus did gain a fair bit of weight on his mission & the pictures I've seen & on BYUSN, he looked it.
soupie
9/22/17 1:27pm
I love your posts and insight... But I must still temper my expectations.
rerunc
9/21/17 10:27am
As he advised
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 11:50am
you must have already had the caffeine
vabeachcoug
9/21/17 10:41am
Luke Worthington = James Anderson part 2
StraightOuttaOrem
9/21/17 11:06am
No offense to Luke intended
coug16
9/21/17 11:22am
Oh wow... I think Luke is terrible but I consider Anderson one of the all time
StraightOuttaOrem
9/21/17 11:26am
Worthington is terrible
sunny25
9/21/17 1:00pm
Cute, but not really. Luke's more fluid & has a much higher Bball IQ.
mantis mutu
9/21/17 2:30pm
I hope Luke W has improved. There were many times I wondered how he ever got
BYU I Bleed Blue
9/21/17 11:17am
Yeah hopefully he got sent of one of the missions people say make you better at
JuicyJam
9/21/17 1:21pm
So what you are really saying is that this team has NIT Final 4 potential?
Turnpike Lane
9/21/17 12:03pm
Thanks for the update. Ill defined leaderships roles hurt the team last year
Coogar2
9/21/17 12:20pm
... again, not even a mention of Emery???
BoiseBlueCoug
9/21/17 12:54pm
Emery was mentioned as a major player.
roseyscenario
9/21/17 1:27pm
And starter.
soupie
9/21/17 1:47pm
Always appreciate the update but
gurt
9/21/17 1:20pm
And i always appreciate your replies, which disagree without being disagreeable.
roseyscenario
9/24/17 12:04am
Thank you
gurt
9/24/17 4:39am
Please more PnR! It truly baffles me how little they use it, especially last
JuicyJam
9/21/17 1:23pm
Nice write up. Thanks
Real Men Wear Blue
9/21/17 1:52pm
Can you comment on how the other new guys are looking? Bergersen and Brown?
Epileptic Beagle
9/21/17 2:18pm
curious how Kajon Brown has looked in pre-season?
icecougar
9/21/17 2:52pm
No problem with optimism, but
Archaea
9/21/17 2:58pm
#12 it's been a long time since we valued every possession...
icecougar
9/21/17 3:11pm
A lack of a true 5 player is my biggest fear... We may be fine to skirt around the WCC w/ Luke as our guy, but we will
crm48
9/21/17 3:16pm
If Jacob Larsen is not ready, the Zags will not have a center next year. That
BYUheaven
9/21/17 3:19pm
Isn't Tillie still there?
LifeLongLakerFan
9/22/17 8:09am
Yes but Tillie is not a true center who likes to bang in the paint. Right now
BYUheaven
9/22/17 8:31am
Guard play should be great, but we are two quality bigs away from a solid team.
CopperLix
9/21/17 4:00pm
What is your definition of solid? Ncaa team?
thebruce
9/21/17 4:03pm
Sure, a solid team should get at least one tournament win.
CopperLix
9/21/17 4:05pm
One big. With Mika we hit this objective.
BostonCougar
9/21/17 4:18pm
So basically a top 32 team...
thebruce
9/21/17 7:02pm
Uhh, if we are banking on 3s from Child's, we are in trouble
zerome4sooners
9/21/17 5:18pm
Why
Epileptic Beagle
9/21/17 5:56pm
Because I don't think he'll make a high % in games
zerome4sooners
9/22/17 5:50am
Bigs shooting 3s is what makes BYU basketball so terrible.
ColdFusion1989
9/22/17 6:06am
Who is the last big to host lots of 3's at a low %?
wisconsincougs
9/22/17 6:42am
Hafa
teancum
9/22/17 10:25am
IMHO ever since Hartsock we have struggled in post play because they all want to
ColdFusion1989
9/22/17 2:06pm
Got to say I disagree with this. Since Rice left after Hartsock's junior year
BYUheaven
9/22/17 3:31pm
In general, they are settling for jumpers and avoiding contact.
ColdFusion1989
9/22/17 4:39pm
I'm not even concerned as much about percentage as I am the mentality.
ColdFusion1989
9/22/17 2:11pm
Wat?
Ash
9/23/17 6:44am
AT MOST we should hope for a 1 game NIT appearance (home or away)
Y4LYFE
9/21/17 5:53pm
I hope for more than that, but I do understand the difficulty.
RebelScum
9/22/17 10:39pm
Roster construction - no small ball
chodilicus
9/21/17 6:38pm
Yeah, they would like to play Yo at PF beside a true center. Not philosophy
roseyscenario
9/21/17 7:14pm
It's a shame that hartsock didn't pan out.
thebruce
9/21/17 7:46pm
Started one game. Pacific home loss. Huge upset!
MichCoug
9/21/17 8:01pm
This is a great point.
ArchbishopMitty
9/21/17 11:10pm
Fantastic points.
thebruce
9/21/17 11:32pm
"play fast regardless of success"... sounds fun to watch!
Hill4Heisman
9/21/17 7:13pm
Here ye here ye: i expect Nick to be an important player this year
roseyscenario
9/21/17 7:22pm
Seems like this would be something to include on the original post...
22jrob22
9/21/17 7:37pm
OP was about change.
roseyscenario
9/21/17 7:49pm
Oh I know. Just joking about all the questions. Appreciate the info!
22jrob22
9/21/17 9:07pm
RE: BYU resurgence! the case for optimism and an improved season. Part II
Ash
9/21/17 7:40pm
Nice update......#8 would be a tough pill to swallow
beauso79
9/21/17 8:08pm
With no inside out game, the threes will continue to come in transition and from
QBarrister
9/21/17 8:44pm
Penetration is a lot easier when you don't have your bigs in the post.
thebruce
9/21/17 8:58pm
Are you talking about our offense or defense?
BYU'01
9/21/17 9:07pm
Offense. Defensively a there will be issues
thebruce
9/21/17 9:20pm
He is talking about our offense. Last year both childs and mika camped out in
BYUheaven
9/21/17 9:21pm
You should. But for some reason BYU seems to refuse to use PnR. Which is
JuicyJam
9/22/17 5:56am
Let's hope last year was a wake up call in that regard.
thebruce
9/24/17 7:51am
NIT
BDAWG
9/22/17 12:13am
Yet here we are with the same unanswered questions as always.
Ash
9/22/17 7:22am
Points 11 and 12 don't jive with me. Play fast transition no matter the success?
Ash
9/22/17 7:26am
I think what Rosey was trying to convey is that BYU wants to slow it down and
BYUheaven
9/22/17 7:40am
They are aware, but can they coach the defects away? Bingo. Agreed.
Ash
9/22/17 9:20am
The threat is always more terrible than the execution. BYU can run and execute
roseyscenario
9/24/17 9:26am
I don't understand why you care so much about our defensive rebounding stats
Ash
9/24/17 1:21pm
But defensive rebounds are a signal that there was a stop. You
soupie
9/24/17 2:41pm
All it signals, having watched every game for several years, is that BYU plays
Ash
9/24/17 6:30pm
Not correct. Your observations fly in face of analytics which show BYU opponent
roseyscenario
9/24/17 6:55pm
The ultimate point is this stat means so little because you have to consider
Ash
9/24/17 7:20pm
BYU was 62nd in FG% defense (42%) and 51st in 3pt FG% defense (33%)
Indy Coug
9/24/17 7:37pm
Yet opponents missed enough to enable BYU to lead nation in defensive rebounds.
roseyscenario
9/24/17 7:40pm
The alternative is opponents get offensive rebounds
roseyscenario
9/24/17 3:27pm
Great post! After listing 4 problems, I was hoping to hear #3 & #4 addressed.
j20
9/22/17 7:46am
Fair point. Didn't cover everything. Consensus is Hardnett a superb defender.
roseyscenario
9/22/17 7:53am
Ah yes, stressing to value every possession should help #3.
j20
9/22/17 8:01am
And it's a smart way to address it, rather than label players as selfish.
roseyscenario
9/22/17 8:33am
Quick pace does not necessarily mean a quick shot
Thrill
9/22/17 9:14am
Rosey, great post and excellent, accurate points on the team
gww687
9/22/17 9:17am
What about defense?
BNcoug
9/22/17 9:35am
You are the engineer of the hype train when it comes to BYU basketball.
Pimpin4Paradise
9/23/17 10:32am
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