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Oct 12, 2017
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84 Grad
All-American
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who has seen the light.
As I posted four weeks ago:
http://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=18455748
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84 Grad
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Make your sales pitch to the Board of Trustees why a change from Indy to G5 is the right one
Indy Coug
Misunderstood
10/12/17 9:42am
Let's take less money to go back to regional competition
nephicoug
10/12/17 9:42am
can i use meme's in my powerpoint presentation?
BlueFrog
10/12/17 9:42am
Whatever it takes to get the job done
Indy Coug
10/12/17 9:43am
good. my sex appeal has always carried the day for me in these situations
yahtzee
10/12/17 12:12pm
money is gonna go down as an indy. fanbase apathy will be reflected
johnnycarson
10/12/17 9:44am
It won't go down going back to playing Wyoming and New Mexico??
nephicoug
10/12/17 9:44am
it will. but i'm saying that we can't sit here and say that indy is going to
johnnycarson
10/12/17 9:46am
Wyoming and New Mexico are better than Idaho and Umass
kosmokramer
10/12/17 10:57am
Aren't we playing Umass and half the MWC right now?
CougarinOZ
10/12/17 1:46pm
Now we're starting every year 1-4?
Sea Chicken
10/12/17 9:45am
We will be starting now
Indy Coug
10/12/17 9:46am
Every year since 2017, anyway.
All-American
10/12/17 9:46am
well, 1-6 this year. but 1-4 the next couple.
johnnycarson
10/12/17 9:47am
To be really effective, you can't just make the claim, you must provide evidence
ByuMba90
10/12/17 9:46am
FYI: This is a scam
Sea Chicken
10/12/17 9:44am
RE: Make your sales pitch to the Board of Trustees why a change from Indy to G5
rhatchmd
10/12/17 9:44am
Do you feel indy is a recruiting advantage over being in a G5? Curious if
franklyvulgar
10/12/17 10:22am
Utah has soundly beaten BYU in recruiting since independence.
displacedute
10/12/17 10:56am
How is this different than today?
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 12:13pm
Jump ship now as it's easier to swim without pitchforks
BlueFrog
10/12/17 9:46am
BYU is caught between a rock and a hard place. There is no great option.
Hawk Talons
10/12/17 9:47am
dude, just schedule a lighter and win games.
Return of the Yeti
10/12/17 10:44am
It is true, BYU teams with 10 wins always finished ranked, even with super weak
DoseOfReality
10/12/17 11:20am
Only ignorant fans would be happy
BYU '80
10/12/17 1:37pm
Less money and less exposure, but the bottom line--winning games--might increase
84 Grad
10/12/17 9:47am
Then jumping to FCS would really boost the bottom line!
Sea Chicken
10/12/17 9:50am
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who has seen the light.
84 Grad
10/12/17 9:54am
we'll be able to go back to showing the games in stake centers
v1k0u6
10/12/17 9:47am
Boom.
Abe Froman
10/12/17 9:48am
IMO, exposure argument is w-e-a-k.
CosmoK
10/12/17 9:54am
our revenue has gone up substantially as an indy, yet this is possibly the worst
johnnycarson
10/12/17 9:56am
You'd also have to address why making a drastic change based on one bad season
Indy Coug
10/12/17 9:57am
true. but by 2020 it'll be 4 bad seasons.
johnnycarson
10/12/17 9:58am
RE: true. but by 2020 it'll be 4 bad seasons.
Abe Froman
10/12/17 10:10am
1 bad season? You can argue every year in Indy has been bad (meaningless) except
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 12:15pm
LOL!!!! If all these seasons have really been that meaningless, then it's time for a new school
Indy Coug
10/12/17 12:33pm
Sorry, you'll have to forcefully remove me from the season tickets we've had
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 12:41pm
This is so short sighted
Dissenter
10/12/17 1:26pm
Short sighted?
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 1:30pm
CFB has changed since the WAC and the MWC. It will never be the same going back
BYUSwoop
10/12/17 9:21pm
Did I ever say I wanted it to go back?
TheLoneCougar
10/13/17 7:57am
IMO you can't determine how good this team is yet. If all you're worried about
ManicBlue
10/12/17 10:02am
It may be weak, but it is definitely one of the cornerstones of Independence that got the BOT on board
Indy Coug
10/12/17 9:56am
Broadcast landscape has entirely changed since then.
CosmoK
10/12/17 9:58am
How many ESPN/ABC games have Cincinnati, SDSU, and Memphis each had this year?
84 Grad
10/12/17 9:58am
I have no idea. I showed # for BYU and BSU once. Nearly identical.
CosmoK
10/12/17 10:02am
So you made a post without knowing if your assertion is correct. Trust me, it's
84 Grad
10/12/17 10:03am
Feel free to prove me wrong.
CosmoK
10/12/17 11:27am
Just look it up and you'll see that you're wrong.
84 Grad
10/12/17 1:57pm
Cinci was on ABC against Michigan. Memphis was
BerkeleyCoug
10/12/17 10:31am
BYU vs Boise SAte ESPN TV
Cougtruth
10/12/17 1:38pm
Yeah, but 84 Coug says you're wrong, soo. . . .
CosmoK
10/12/17 6:27pm
No, CosmoK, once again you are wrong. I live in Boise so I know how much BSU
84 Grad
10/12/17 7:08pm
Who cares Cinncinnatti, Memphis, etc.
Cougtruth
10/12/17 8:32pm
I agree. I only brought it up because of this comparison:
84 Grad
10/12/17 8:55pm
I wouldn't even try to make that argument. It's stupid.
ManicBlue
10/12/17 9:59am
As a BYU fan the only stat I care about each year is how much money we made. W-L
kolob32
10/12/17 10:00am
And that's how you convince the BOT to make a change?
Indy Coug
10/12/17 10:11am
Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty dumb now that I think about it.
kolob32
10/12/17 10:13am
Being independent is hurting our brand. Our fans are becoming apathetic because
cougtrain
10/12/17 10:04am
Unfortunately the pro Indy crowd can't see this or are too prideful to admit it.
kolob32
10/12/17 10:10am
It's denial. We're disappointed too, but we've progressed on to acceptance.
Gil Buckman
10/12/17 10:19am
The P5 is never going to want us we need to accept that and we’re not better
franklyvulgar
10/12/17 10:33am
I agree with alot of what you're saying. However, I think we still have a shot
kolob32
10/12/17 10:48am
Agree relevance is top 25 rankings which doesn’t seem possible as Indy
franklyvulgar
10/12/17 11:03am
Great minds think alike. I just don't see how people on here can't understand
kolob32
10/12/17 11:06am
thumbs up for your last paragraph. It's all about utah.
Jay Rick
10/12/17 5:46pm
Byu is a 5 that thinks she's a 9.
CougarinOZ
10/12/17 1:56pm
Admit what?
MarylandFan
10/12/17 6:02pm
Mine is not based on losing. I had same issue last year with a winning record.
kolob32
10/12/17 6:07pm
When would you consider BYU's most recent "successful" season?
MarylandFan
10/13/17 7:26pm
Love this mini thread.
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 12:20pm
Oh please. The fans are apathetic because this team sucks.
ArchbishopMitty
10/12/17 12:50pm
*Sucking at football* is hurting our brand and would hurt it in any situation.
jkccoug
10/12/17 8:04pm
You make a good point. What is important to BOT and what is important to fans
Gil Buckman
10/12/17 10:05am
My sales pitch is simple...Your commitment to the programs success is at a G5 level, quit pretending it is anything else
Bonoman
10/12/17 10:09am
This would be my 1st point in the pitch.
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 12:24pm
One bad year and it's time to go back? I'd say the chat is premature.
Turnpike Lane
10/12/17 10:18am
If Holmoe insists scheduling like he has the trend will continue
franklyvulgar
10/12/17 10:26am
It's already done through 2022.
Turnpike Lane
10/12/17 10:35am
Independence makes sense for the casual fan that just cares about exposure,
kolob32
10/12/17 10:56am
Someday it may make sense
70'sCougar
10/12/17 10:43am
We’ve had 7 years of boring seasons. This isn’t about one really bad year.
cougtrain
10/12/17 11:04am
People haven’t been happy with Indy from the beginning some are more vocal now
franklyvulgar
10/12/17 11:06am
It's not. I guess I lose.
SoCalCoug
10/12/17 11:00am
The "missionary" aspect of the program and brand name suffers when we are bad.
IronPotato
10/12/17 11:41am
15% of our fan base is very temperamental and fair weather. They
Y2k
10/12/17 12:00pm
Exposure on ESPN U if we don't start winning
Cougar4life123
10/12/17 12:12pm
Let's reduce exposure, revenue and opportunities to play P5 competition.
Archaea
10/12/17 5:53pm
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