for whatever reason we've moved away from half court sets and motion and

Jan 12, 2018
10:44:52am

nashty All-American

ball movement on offense from early in the season and reverted back to last year's "chuck it in the post and watch" offense.

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i'm a rose apologist. my favorite byu coach of all time. but its ridiculous

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 10:39am

34% on 3 is more than 50% on 2's

thebruce

1/12/18 10:41am

thanks. and there you go. he should be shooting 5-7 threes a game.

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 10:42am

We seem to be running a scheme for the sake of running a scheme rather than

Indy Coug

1/12/18 10:44am

right. because long rebounds go back to us a good percentage of the time.

johnnycarson

1/12/18 10:44am

I just mean that the percentage of a 34% 3 is equal to like 51% from 2.

thebruce

1/12/18 10:47am

yeah. and im saying its even better than that. i think people have been able

johnnycarson

1/12/18 10:48am

I agree, especially as a 4 if you can be a consistent threat from the outside

thebruce

1/12/18 10:52am

Except that isn’t considering foul shots.

BYUCLA

1/12/18 6:47pm

The best formula is to look at ppp

thebruce

1/12/18 6:54pm

DOes that work for individual players stats?

BYUCLA

1/12/18 7:00pm

Long rebounds off 3 pointers is a myth.

jsjohnson1278

1/12/18 8:14pm

I really miss the transition game.

Goatnapper'96

1/12/18 10:43am

I miss it, then I remember how it equated to zero success is post season

idacoug

1/12/18 2:16pm

3 x .333 = 1, 2 x .5 = 1

mulletino

1/12/18 10:43am

Meant for thebruce (with lisp)

mulletino

1/12/18 10:43am

But, 3 x .34 = 1.02 which is > 1.

SierraCoug

1/12/18 11:09am

for whatever reason we've moved away from half court sets and motion and

nashty

1/12/18 10:44am

^I said almost these exact words when yelling at the TV last night.

BlooGeek

1/12/18 12:44pm

I agree. If you take 6 threes at 33% vs 6 twos and make 50% you end up with six

Savage91

1/12/18 10:46am

the main reason he needs to shoot more 3's is because he is supposed to be

thebruce

1/12/18 10:51am

rose seems so enamored with this high-low post play. that doesn't get

johnnycarson

1/12/18 10:53am

Seljaas is also gun shy when anyone us in his vicinity

thebruce

1/12/18 11:08am

and this is where i blame the coaches. they should be telling him to shoot or

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 12:42pm

The offense is not getting him or others enough open shots, especially

kimdaddy35

1/12/18 11:01am

i really think its because rose is running this high low post play all the time.

johnnycarson

1/12/18 11:03am

It seems to me TJ specifically struggles in the half court

thebruce

1/12/18 11:21am

you can't push the ball if you can't rebound well

warp

1/12/18 12:50pm

We are one of the best defensive rebounding teams in the country. #4 in

thebruce

1/12/18 1:02pm

capturing the rebound does not

warp

1/12/18 6:01pm

I see what you are saying but here's what I think is happening

thebruce

1/12/18 6:13pm

This team is also forcing more TOs than last year's team fyi

thebruce

1/12/18 6:14pm

he was open plenty last night. consistently throughout the night open at the

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 12:44pm

Math Basics - 12 threes at .33% = 4 makes = 12 points; 12 twos at .50% = 6 makes

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/12/18 11:43am

Gotta add in the effect of more free throws when taking 2s

BYUCLA

1/12/18 6:50pm

That is true, but then again, a foul on three gives you three, but the

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/12/18 7:16pm

Are we assuming Seljaas is reluctant to shoot because the coaches have

Agaricus

1/12/18 12:04pm

that's the assumption and i'll tell you why. the coaches have all the control -

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 12:45pm

has anyone else noticed that Seljaas has a sid-spin on his shot? It's not

Bostonblue

1/12/18 12:53pm

yeah and he sometimes floats forward too

warp

1/12/18 1:01pm

its a beautiful stroke - i'll have to pay more attention to this supposed

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 1:07pm

It definitely exists.

Bostonblue

1/12/18 1:14pm

The only question is whether it existed during his frosh year or

Bostonblue

1/12/18 1:18pm

Maybe he's not shooting or trying hard to get open.

Michicoug

1/12/18 3:19pm

Don’t blame Rose. The kid has lost confidence in his shot

youngster

1/12/18 3:20pm

he should be told if he doesn't shoot it when he's open he'll get pulled

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 3:29pm

And you're privy to what they've told him how?

Michicoug

1/12/18 3:46pm

I'm assuming that coaches are experimenting this year with the offense. Some areas are improved, but it's also clear

CalGTR

1/12/18 3:50pm

What makes you think he doesn't have the green light? I think he looks hesitant.

Real Men Wear Blue

1/12/18 6:10pm

I miss Mika

Coogar2

1/12/18 6:49pm

I really think this team would have been very good had Mika stayed, and if we

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/12/18 7:17pm

Better than Child’s and Seljaas inside

Coogar2

1/12/18 9:39pm

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