I do understand this. I was fortunate to grow up in a place that had a really

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Mar 9, 2018
9:04:14am

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I do understand this. I was fortunate to grow up in a place that had a really

well known school district. It it most likely one of the reassons I got in. I also agree that the ACT is a tough way to judge kids as it is a 4 hour snap shot. But I do think it is the best thing we have to put kids on an even scale.

What would you suggest the best way to compare kids across the nation? Is the current application process good enough in your mind? Would you make any changes?

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Since this is what I do for a living...

3/9/18 7:58am

I really think the essays are the differentiator here, too

2FarGone

3/9/18 8:05am

Reminds me of conversations my friends and I have had with teachers.

PJMort

3/9/18 8:20am

I had the exact conversation recently for my daughter

2FarGone

3/9/18 8:24am

For many teachers they just wind up thinking..

PJMort

3/9/18 8:30am

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cvd6262

3/9/18 8:51am

What would you want him to be doing instead of reading? Great use of time imo.

Capricious Cougar

3/9/18 9:34am

Sadly, most schools and teachers would rather insist on such a child

panguitch

3/9/18 9:43am

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cvd6262

3/9/18 10:22am

You are exactly right. We work really hard trying to help one of our son's teachers challenge him

CDV

3/9/18 11:35am

I understand what you are saying, but idk what that would look like in pratical

Capricious Cougar

3/9/18 11:46am

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cvd6262

3/9/18 12:06pm

Good teachers have differented graduated levels of material for each concept they teach. They teach similar concepts

CDV

3/9/18 5:19pm

My SIL was the same way. She read Harry Potter in 1st grade. The teacher told

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 9:42am

I was in a meeting where President Worthen mentioned that they are interested in

3/9/18 10:18am

I have an question with the GPA point you made. There is a big

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 8:11am

Universities have devalued ACT/SAT because Whites and Asians do better on them

jrob30

3/9/18 8:20am

RE: I have an question with the GPA point you made. There is a big

3/9/18 8:21am

GPA is so inconsistent though. My kids have gone to schools in 4 states and the

bag

3/9/18 8:42am

But there is a magic bullet that is submitted by every school with every

3/9/18 8:54am

I do understand this. I was fortunate to grow up in a place that had a really

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 9:04am

Comparing kids around the world is where the standardized tests come in.

3/9/18 9:15am

I get it, I just wish there was a better way to compare kids. I don't want

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 9:20am

That makes sense. But how do they evaluate a student that gets all/almost all

bag

3/9/18 9:20am

Is there a reason why BYU doesn't take the weighted GPAs? Do other schools not

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 9:23am

RE: Is there a reason why BYU doesn't take the weighted GPAs? Do other schools

allystake

3/9/18 11:07am

Good point. Didn’t think of that.

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 11:12am

Because every school treats weighted classes differently and has a different

BYUMizzou

3/9/18 11:14am

I wasn’t aware of this either. Makes sense now.

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 12:13pm

Not a good solution

plymouth

3/14/18 7:55pm

Experienced something very similar in my growing up years one

ChiCityCoug

3/9/18 9:05am

As a teacher I can say the way grades are assigned varies hugely even between

Capricious Cougar

3/9/18 9:19am

Grading scales are inconsistent as well, which directly effects GPA

sTcCoug

3/9/18 9:45am

I know a teacher that gives an A, no matter what.

3/9/18 8:13pm

The former most popular professor at BYU did that, too. Amazing that 1000s

Monomachos

3/9/18 8:18pm

Grades don't measure learning. People think they do, but usually they don't.

Ssebo

3/9/18 8:31pm

Ideally they would, and in some cases they do, but for many cases I agree with

Monomachos

3/10/18 9:24am

good grades measure a person's willingness/interest/capability of getting good grades. This makes them a useful tool in

HarlemCoug

3/10/18 9:49am

Does it?

3/10/18 11:30am

I would describe it as "useful with significant limitations"

buffgato

3/10/18 12:36pm

of course grades are a useful tool. of course they are.

HarlemCoug

3/10/18 2:59pm

Unless they reflect teachers who give out mostly A grades in any case or

Monomachos

3/10/18 2:45pm

Use class rank as another option

plymouth

3/14/18 7:57pm

I can't imagine having to read all those essays

Gustav

3/9/18 8:17am

Do you feel that universities are seeing GPAs are more of a "grit" factor?

TheLoneCougar

3/9/18 8:30am

UFI— University of Fully Invested. Mascot— the Broncos.

PJMort

3/9/18 8:34am

RE: UFI— University of Fully Invested. Mascot— the Broncos.

TheLoneCougar

3/9/18 8:58am

Yes, I actually work at the first institution to include a psychographic measure

3/9/18 8:56am

My son got waitlisted at Cal Poly SLO

3/9/18 9:17am

Funny story about SLO

3/9/18 9:21am

yeah it is pretty nice. small community too. great place

3/9/18 9:27am

So Bronco was right all along... even students now have to recruit BYU. Ha!

rockhound

3/9/18 8:48am

I never had to go through any of this at USU. It is crazy to me.

Ssebo

3/9/18 9:34am

Same experience here.

ditch

3/9/18 12:23pm

Amen. I'm a BYU guy, but if my kid doesn't get in or doesn't want to go to BYU

3/9/18 4:36pm

Disagree somewhat on the GPA - my kids have lots of stories of how easy it was

Monomachos

3/9/18 10:16am

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cvd6262

3/9/18 10:25am

Yep, one C.

3/9/18 10:32am

Bigger question: how does one use any of the usual criteria to predict success?

Monomachos

3/9/18 11:11am

Case in point on grades,

Paco

3/9/18 11:16am

I had a history teacher who only gave 1 A, 1 A-, 1 B+, 1 B, 1 B-, and most

Monomachos

3/9/18 12:11pm

They are also most likely outliers.

TheLoneCougar

3/9/18 12:25pm

Yes, but they might explain the random single low grade.

Monomachos

3/9/18 5:02pm

One C, you're being light. I know a couple of

Archaea

3/9/18 5:33pm

Heard another one today: kid in my ward is getting 30 points

Monomachos

3/14/18 9:31pm

RE: Demonstrated Insight is a tough task

05COUG

3/9/18 10:32am

I think that's just a natural consequence of a growing population

buffgato

3/9/18 11:01am

I think we are seeing that everywhere we turn. Kids have to be ready

rockhound

3/9/18 4:51pm

(Glad Six Foot Seven didn't review my kid's application, one C found therein)

RenoCoug

3/9/18 4:29pm

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