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cvd6262
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Since this is what I do for a living...
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 7:58am
I really think the essays are the differentiator here, too
2FarGone
3/9/18 8:05am
Reminds me of conversations my friends and I have had with teachers.
PJMort
3/9/18 8:20am
I had the exact conversation recently for my daughter
2FarGone
3/9/18 8:24am
For many teachers they just wind up thinking..
PJMort
3/9/18 8:30am
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cvd6262
3/9/18 8:51am
What would you want him to be doing instead of reading? Great use of time imo.
Capricious Cougar
3/9/18 9:34am
Sadly, most schools and teachers would rather insist on such a child
panguitch
3/9/18 9:43am
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cvd6262
3/9/18 10:22am
You are exactly right. We work really hard trying to help one of our son's teachers challenge him
CDV
3/9/18 11:35am
I understand what you are saying, but idk what that would look like in pratical
Capricious Cougar
3/9/18 11:46am
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cvd6262
3/9/18 12:06pm
Good teachers have differented graduated levels of material for each concept they teach. They teach similar concepts
CDV
3/9/18 5:19pm
My SIL was the same way. She read Harry Potter in 1st grade. The teacher told
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 9:42am
I was in a meeting where President Worthen mentioned that they are interested in
cougarbob137
3/9/18 10:18am
I have an question with the GPA point you made. There is a big
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 8:11am
Universities have devalued ACT/SAT because Whites and Asians do better on them
jrob30
3/9/18 8:20am
RE: I have an question with the GPA point you made. There is a big
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 8:21am
GPA is so inconsistent though. My kids have gone to schools in 4 states and the
bag
3/9/18 8:42am
But there is a magic bullet that is submitted by every school with every
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 8:54am
I do understand this. I was fortunate to grow up in a place that had a really
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 9:04am
Comparing kids around the world is where the standardized tests come in.
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 9:15am
I get it, I just wish there was a better way to compare kids. I don't want
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 9:20am
That makes sense. But how do they evaluate a student that gets all/almost all
bag
3/9/18 9:20am
Is there a reason why BYU doesn't take the weighted GPAs? Do other schools not
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 9:23am
RE: Is there a reason why BYU doesn't take the weighted GPAs? Do other schools
allystake
3/9/18 11:07am
Good point. Didn’t think of that.
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 11:12am
Because every school treats weighted classes differently and has a different
BYUMizzou
3/9/18 11:14am
I wasn’t aware of this either. Makes sense now.
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 12:13pm
Not a good solution
plymouth
3/14/18 7:55pm
Experienced something very similar in my growing up years one
ChiCityCoug
3/9/18 9:05am
As a teacher I can say the way grades are assigned varies hugely even between
Capricious Cougar
3/9/18 9:19am
Grading scales are inconsistent as well, which directly effects GPA
sTcCoug
3/9/18 9:45am
I know a teacher that gives an A, no matter what.
BYUALWAYSNUM1
3/9/18 8:13pm
The former most popular professor at BYU did that, too. Amazing that 1000s
Monomachos
3/9/18 8:18pm
Grades don't measure learning. People think they do, but usually they don't.
Ssebo
3/9/18 8:31pm
Ideally they would, and in some cases they do, but for many cases I agree with
Monomachos
3/10/18 9:24am
good grades measure a person's willingness/interest/capability of getting good grades. This makes them a useful tool in
HarlemCoug
3/10/18 9:49am
Does it?
BYUALWAYSNUM1
3/10/18 11:30am
I would describe it as "useful with significant limitations"
buffgato
3/10/18 12:36pm
of course grades are a useful tool. of course they are.
HarlemCoug
3/10/18 2:59pm
Unless they reflect teachers who give out mostly A grades in any case or
Monomachos
3/10/18 2:45pm
Use class rank as another option
plymouth
3/14/18 7:57pm
I can't imagine having to read all those essays
Gustav
3/9/18 8:17am
Do you feel that universities are seeing GPAs are more of a "grit" factor?
TheLoneCougar
3/9/18 8:30am
UFI— University of Fully Invested. Mascot— the Broncos.
PJMort
3/9/18 8:34am
RE: UFI— University of Fully Invested. Mascot— the Broncos.
TheLoneCougar
3/9/18 8:58am
Yes, I actually work at the first institution to include a psychographic measure
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 8:56am
My son got waitlisted at Cal Poly SLO
Turd Ferguson
3/9/18 9:17am
Funny story about SLO
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 9:21am
yeah it is pretty nice. small community too. great place
Turd Ferguson
3/9/18 9:27am
So Bronco was right all along... even students now have to recruit BYU. Ha!
rockhound
3/9/18 8:48am
I never had to go through any of this at USU. It is crazy to me.
Ssebo
3/9/18 9:34am
Same experience here.
ditch
3/9/18 12:23pm
Amen. I'm a BYU guy, but if my kid doesn't get in or doesn't want to go to BYU
cougarbob137
3/9/18 4:36pm
Disagree somewhat on the GPA - my kids have lots of stories of how easy it was
Monomachos
3/9/18 10:16am
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cvd6262
3/9/18 10:25am
Yep, one C.
Six Foot Seven
3/9/18 10:32am
Bigger question: how does one use any of the usual criteria to predict success?
Monomachos
3/9/18 11:11am
Case in point on grades,
Paco
3/9/18 11:16am
I had a history teacher who only gave 1 A, 1 A-, 1 B+, 1 B, 1 B-, and most
Monomachos
3/9/18 12:11pm
They are also most likely outliers.
TheLoneCougar
3/9/18 12:25pm
Yes, but they might explain the random single low grade.
Monomachos
3/9/18 5:02pm
One C, you're being light. I know a couple of
Archaea
3/9/18 5:33pm
Heard another one today: kid in my ward is getting 30 points
Monomachos
3/14/18 9:31pm
RE: Demonstrated Insight is a tough task
05COUG
3/9/18 10:32am
I think that's just a natural consequence of a growing population
buffgato
3/9/18 11:01am
I think we are seeing that everywhere we turn. Kids have to be ready
rockhound
3/9/18 4:51pm
(Glad Six Foot Seven didn't review my kid's application, one C found therein)
RenoCoug
3/9/18 4:29pm
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