losing to your rival, losing now regularly to usu, recruiting rankings,

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Aug 20, 2018
10:28:50am

johnnycarson All-American

season ticket renewals, ticket prices, attendance....all of it is indicative of a problem.

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johnnycarson

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Joined: Nov 21, 2005
Last login: Jan 17, 2022
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Why are the “BYU Football is dead” voices growing in intensity as Sept 1 nears?

TayPower

8/20/18 10:04am

Give us your definition of "positive"

Indy Coug

8/20/18 10:05am

Ridiculous doom and gloom is the same as super high expectations and disappointment

RSL

8/20/18 10:07am

I'll modify.

RSL

8/20/18 10:10am

Last year was MUCH worse than just a "losing season". It was a disaster.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 10:11am

It was a total failure on and off the field.

Six Foot Seven

8/20/18 10:25am

I completely agree with everything you said.

TayPower

8/20/18 10:55am

You didn't read my response. Our trajectory has nothing to do with last year

Backcountry

8/20/18 10:16am

losing to your rival, losing now regularly to usu, recruiting rankings,

johnnycarson

8/20/18 10:28am

Yes I did. I still think it’s ridiculous to say things like

TayPower

8/20/18 11:01am

I'm pessimistic about our long term trajectory primarily because we will not

Backcountry

8/20/18 11:06am

I agree it’s not realistic to compete as things are.

TayPower

8/20/18 11:17am

so you agree that its not realistic to think that byu can compete with this

johnnycarson

8/20/18 11:25am

Compete in terms of long term trajectory.

TayPower

8/20/18 11:35am

we simply cannot compete. we are taking a knife to a gun fight. just as

johnnycarson

8/20/18 11:41am

I agree about Bronco. I think he viewed BYU as a sinking ship.

Backcountry

8/20/18 11:49am

I nominate JohnnyCarson as the new AD. You have to understand the problem before

kolob32

8/20/18 11:52am

you wanna see a massive cb meldown? jefe would be suspending everyone here.

johnnycarson

8/20/18 12:05pm

In this thread alone you have succintly, identified the majority of the problems

kolob32

8/20/18 12:11pm

Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

TayPower

8/20/18 11:52am

my opinion is that the biggest problem ISNT money. we actually do make

johnnycarson

8/20/18 12:03pm

We already are blowing up the program as evidenced by the history of BYU

kolob32

8/20/18 12:15pm

exactly. doing nothing here is leading to the death of the program. you could

johnnycarson

8/20/18 12:54pm

You could make that case. But that would only be because you aren't willing/able

TayPower

8/20/18 1:26pm

I am not advocating not fighting, to me fighting would be to get in a G5

kolob32

8/20/18 1:34pm

I didn't say anyone was advocating not fighting. JC was saying those advocating

TayPower

8/20/18 1:45pm

This

Backcountry

8/20/18 11:36am

You overstate people's reactions to the season. Most people understand we are in a bad spot and

Baron

8/20/18 10:17am

I think you are right in how you characterize MOST people.

TayPower

8/20/18 11:03am

Are you referring to my post? At no point did I say "BYU is dead."

whitey1980

8/20/18 4:43pm

No, I didn't actually see your post.

TayPower

8/20/18 5:05pm

Check that...I realize that I did read your post. But no, I wasn't referring

TayPower

8/20/18 5:08pm

BYU has been on a downtrend over the last 9 years. We have had some bright spots

kolob32

8/20/18 10:22am

We did pad our stats with WAC and MWC schedules....

boscatar

8/20/18 10:52am

Yep. Only realistic (and best) way forward. No Shame in it either

cougfanz

8/20/18 11:04am

I would take this over our current situation any day of the week.

kolob32

8/20/18 11:22am

worked for UCF last year, they are in AP top 25 as well as BSU

kolob32

8/20/18 11:27am

This is also how Utah and TCU got into P5. The Boise model works wonders.

TrueAggieBlue

8/20/18 11:44am

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