We need to borrow some of the stats nerds from baseball

Sep 18, 2018
7:53:47am

permiso All-American

to analyze all field goals at the end of a game and how time out use affects rate of success. That would be interesting.

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The genius of how Kalani iced the kicker.

Y05

9/18/18 7:18am

It didn’t hurt that the crowd starts booing after the first timeout. Anything

Junior Deputy

9/18/18 7:30am

I didn't notice the booing. The 30 or so of us wearing blue in our section were

TailgateU

9/18/18 8:07am

What made it even better is he was standing next to the ref making it

Duke Silver

9/18/18 7:30am

Unless the kicker nails the kick......Then we would have been Broncoed!!!

beauso79

9/18/18 7:32am

Except bronco wasted time outs on an extra point. Which would have been

Duke Silver

9/18/18 7:37am

THIS!!!!

Kerbouchard

9/18/18 11:36am

Bronco would've wasted 1-2 timeouts on meaningless 3rd and 6 plays early in 3Q

thejimmer

9/18/18 10:06am

Seemed like the team usually made a big play after those timeouts though.

califcougar

9/18/18 12:53pm

People are acting like he did something unique

permiso

9/18/18 7:35am

But it worked and seemed like an unlikely result to a very unlikely

basman

9/18/18 7:42am

Yep. Coaches do this all the time.

Mr. Belding

9/18/18 7:49am

Everything in football has been done before.... give some credit.

Benfica1

9/18/18 8:52am

If you think icing works, then not calling the third time out seems wise.

Tricky

9/18/18 10:27am

We're not used to high IQ decisions by head coaches when it comes to this game.

Ash

9/18/18 12:33pm

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE ICING THE KICKER WORKS.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/18/18 7:50am

There is no evidence that it does not work.

Parley

9/18/18 7:53am

YES THERE IS.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/18/18 8:39am

There is no evidence that all caps is more convincing than non-all caps.

squidmark

9/18/18 8:48am

WhAt AbOuT ToGgLe?

Y05

9/18/18 8:53am

Well now, ToGgle is a different story. That might make what they're saying true!

stevebyu8

9/18/18 9:19am

We need to borrow some of the stats nerds from baseball

permiso

9/18/18 7:53am

It's in the book Scorecasting by Toby Moskowitz.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/18/18 8:38am

Here is evidence.

TailgateU

9/18/18 8:09am

Sure it does, here's some stats from the NFL between 2001 - 2012

Duke Silver

9/18/18 8:31am

Game, set, match.

Incentivize

9/18/18 8:37am

I need to save this for my Sports Psych class. Thanks

WhiteKnight

9/18/18 8:38am

That'd be a fun class to teach.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/18/18 8:39am

Probably my favorite class to teach

WhiteKnight

9/18/18 8:40am

but they don't specifically mention if the non-iced kicks are with the game on

palangi

9/18/18 9:31am

Good point. All "iced kicks" are presumably pressure kicks

WhiteKnight

9/18/18 10:00am

Actually at this time it was total sudden death in OT so the game was always on

akmewg

9/18/18 12:01pm

Stats show yes nfl and college

BYUvermont

9/18/18 10:46am

Share if link if you will.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/18/18 12:08pm

Anecdotal but sample set of Wisc on Sat it worked every time. That's evidence.

Agaricus

9/18/18 11:50am

Ice

Parley

9/18/18 7:52am

Go back and read the geniuses on CB when Kalani called the first timeout. Then

O Gaucho

9/18/18 8:21am

I hated it. The explanation of wanting to rest the D makes sense.

JuicyJam

9/18/18 8:31am

This is what is interesting to me.

Jay_L

9/18/18 12:57pm

I didn't see the posts, but I'm assuming people were upset that he was using

Duke Silver

9/18/18 8:38am

Except that is when Tanner plays his best ball. The final minutes while in a

budYu

9/18/18 9:57am

RE: The genius of how Kalani iced the kicker.

Hambone

9/18/18 8:24am

Kalani said he was trying to rest our guys to make a play

BYUSeahawks

9/18/18 8:26am

What Kalani actually said

Cougrrrs Roll

9/18/18 11:39am

yep and we always believe what coaches say. 🙂

Mayor of Cougartown

9/18/18 2:31pm

Bronson said the same thing on SN

FanofBYU

9/18/18 2:44pm

I believe everything in the world.

BYUSeahawks

9/18/18 10:41pm

When the coach calls 2 time outs — Ice Ice Baby

BYULAWGUY

9/18/18 8:51am

And when it is BYU, totally Vanilla Ice Ice Baby.

Y05

9/18/18 8:56am

Corbin and Kalani actually said they were used to rest the D for a block

Denesheo

9/18/18 8:54am

I think you're right but I also don't think it was that calculated

Pretorian

9/18/18 9:14am

“Genius”? Easy there.

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

9/18/18 9:27am

LOL-if he made the kick CB would say Kalani was an idiot for squandering his TOs

Str8CashCougar

9/18/18 9:58am

Does anyone have any video showing this actually got in his head

kapcreations

9/18/18 10:00am

Only genius because he missed. There are plenty of makes when coaches try to ice

IronPotato

9/18/18 10:03am

It's only genius if the kicker misses

ethanator

9/18/18 10:31am

That split second distraction, possibly, “is dude/did dude just call 3rd TO”

MatthiasG

9/18/18 10:48am

According to Bronson Kaufusi...

FanofBYU

9/18/18 11:24am

Well that's also what Kalani said. But why believe them?

(Private)

9/18/18 11:29am

I dont understand why people - include the announcers - questioned this

OC Coug

9/18/18 12:24pm

Kalani said post game that the reason was more Kaufusi, than the kicker

rmreitz

9/18/18 2:58pm

This is extremely common.

chazen

9/19/18 4:08am

Yeah, & maybe I’m overthinking it, but in combo w playing for overtime rather

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