Yeah, you are just seeing it wrong

Sep 20, 2018
2:54:13pm

Jericho All-American

Most teams have 70-80% of the same players as last season.

He doesn't weigh it that heavily in the end, but no ranking system is perfect and they are all least accurate to start the season vs the end of the season.

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Getting no love from Sagarin. #61 (SOS is #13 to date). Utah State, Utah,

Scott_Tenorman

9/19/18 3:54pm

Just win.

Carnac

9/19/18 3:55pm

^^^This^^^

rerunc

9/19/18 6:31pm

It's got to still have some leftover from last year.

Iron Coug

9/19/18 3:56pm

Takes time to erase last years final #112 ranking

Jericho

9/19/18 3:57pm

Sagarin rating doesn't any subjectivity in his ratings. The problem here is the

Mr. Scoobs

9/19/18 3:57pm

As the season goes on, the preseason weightings are diminished and eventually

cougarfan84

9/19/18 4:02pm

Never eliminated, he's keeping 15% weight to last year's results all year

Kajdin

9/19/18 4:13pm

Only thing that makes me want to do is ignore Sagarin.

Randall Toomey

9/19/18 4:15pm

Why on earth would he do that? What does last year's results have to do with

cougarfan84

9/19/18 4:18pm

On the bright side, I guess the 4-9 team only sucked 85% as much as we thought

Randall Toomey

9/19/18 4:21pm

No idea why he thinks it's a good idea. I think it's stupid too.

Kajdin

9/19/18 4:37pm

...because it makes it more accurate overall.

molodyets

9/19/18 4:43pm

What are the effects?

Randall Toomey

9/19/18 4:53pm

it improved his game by game predictions. If it didn't it wouldn't be in there.

molodyets

9/19/18 5:07pm

Ha! More accurate based on whose subjectivity? The eye ball test? That is

cwilke1

9/19/18 4:53pm

Off of his previous formula backtesting for years and years of data.

molodyets

9/19/18 5:05pm

Those are great points I had not thought of.

cwilke1

9/19/18 5:10pm

Because it favors the big boys. It's obvious.

IrishBlue

9/19/18 6:46pm

Yes, in a system designed to ranked and project the final score of every game

molodyets

9/19/18 6:57pm

He's an idiot for weighting the prev year the same across the board. Nonsense.

ArchbishopMitty

9/19/18 8:28pm

Not an idiot for that. It’s a factor, and it is diminished as the seasons

Jericho

9/20/18 1:34am

I stand by it. He's factoring it wrong if he thinks each team has the SAME

ArchbishopMitty

9/20/18 2:51pm

Yeah, you are just seeing it wrong

Jericho

9/20/18 2:54pm

It’s all about data points

McTailGator

9/20/18 6:41am

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JimmyZ

9/19/18 4:00pm

Also, close wins don't help. BYU needs a blow out victory to gain major ground.

Iron Coug

9/19/18 4:02pm

We were 91 in Massey Composite preseason. We're 54 now. Just keep winning.

molodyets

9/19/18 4:06pm

In this case I think sagarin is closer to reality than the AP poll

Josef K

9/19/18 4:07pm

Agree 100% our offense is not good.

AudiS4

9/19/18 4:13pm

Yep. Our O is flat

Coogar2

9/19/18 7:30pm

Sorry, but nothing utah state has done has shown better performance than byu

viper

9/19/18 7:04pm

USU’s Sagarin rating is an outlier. Every other computer ranking in the Massey

Josef K

9/19/18 8:38pm

Love McNeese at 160.

kooogar

9/19/18 7:53pm

Honestly, probably getting more love than BYU deserves from the AP

reddead

9/19/18 9:37pm

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