I thought most the board was supportive of 'innocent until proven guilty'

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Conan

10/5/18 8:59am

If he beat up your daughter 3 wks ago would you want him representing the team?

molodyets

10/5/18 9:01am

I didn't know about the recent stuff, I thought you were referring to things from years ago.

Conan

10/5/18 9:49am

This isn’t something that happened a long time ago. It is 3 weeks ago.

AD4

10/5/18 9:02am

Finding forgiveness from God and those he abused (allegedly) is different than being honored by the program

JohnnyComeLately

10/5/18 9:09am

I'm sure the AD knows a lot more about the situation than the average CBer

BlackBart

10/5/18 9:18am

So, like he doesn’t have 4 pending felony assault charges?

JohnnyComeLately

10/5/18 9:20am

Why so sure. You think they do a background check for flagbearers. Good chance

fattycoug

10/5/18 9:24am

If anything, JCL is not the average CBr. Really, he's quite the big deal.

sevenIDcougs

10/5/18 9:59am

I'd rather see Riley Nelson run the flag out.

ReggaeCoug

10/5/18 9:01am

Would be cool, but his little bro plays for USU--it would never happen

Carnac

10/5/18 9:10am

I honestly don't care.

Jeffacka

10/5/18 9:01am

I thought most the board was supportive of 'innocent until proven guilty'

IceBlueCoug

10/5/18 9:02am

If this was the only problem he's had, you might have a point

Indy Coug

10/5/18 9:04am

He has a history, and there was enough to press charges. I'm not saying

molodyets

10/5/18 9:05am

yeah, the comparison with Kavanaugh is very different. Not even enough evidence

runnincoug

10/5/18 9:07am

Clearly a political attack? Thanks for clearing that up. You should report your

Y2k

10/5/18 9:00pm

Getting arrested... recently, seems like a bad look. They should not have him run out the flag. Not sure what the crap

46in96

10/5/18 9:07am

Sure, but if he turns out to be guilty, BYU won't look good honoring him 3 weeks

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 9:59am

Yes, in a criminal court

conflictedcoug

10/5/18 1:04pm

Messy situation. I am sad this is something we are even needing to talk about.

BYUtka

10/5/18 9:06am

Senator Schumer? Is that you?

TPcoug

10/5/18 9:09am

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Randall Toomey

10/5/18 9:09am

What kind of message does that send to assault victims?

RdF3

10/5/18 9:11am

You dont think assault is a big deal? What's wrong with you?

Machiavelli

10/5/18 10:39am

I should be asking you the same thing. You just said you hated all people from

Randall Toomey

10/5/18 10:40am

Lol I think you're confused. I never said anything about Louisiana.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 1:09pm

I thought we were putting words into each other's mouths

Randall Toomey

10/5/18 4:32pm

What are you even talking about???

Machiavelli

10/5/18 5:05pm

Where in the original post does it talk about the woman?

Randall Toomey

10/5/18 5:07pm

OP mentioned 4 felony assault charges. Then look 2 posts below that.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 5:21pm

BYU: Get arrested for assault? Run out our alumni flag!!!

Zach Morris

10/5/18 9:10am

Drank an espresso last week!!??? What!!!??? Arrested for beating a woman... meh.

46in96

10/5/18 9:13am

I bet the admin has no idea he was arrested 3 weeks ago. If those that made the

kansascougar

10/5/18 9:12am

Get over it, he’s running out the flag. He was fired by wells. I’m all for it

slccoug

10/5/18 9:13am

Why was he fired?

BYURider

10/5/18 9:19am

Don’t be so obsessed with sending a “bad image”. Welcome him back

slccoug

10/5/18 9:20am

You do realize that there is a great chance that if BYU football brings ill

Ozymandias

10/5/18 10:06am

I think I agree.

Ham

10/5/18 9:14am

Absent the facts, who are we to condemn a brother?

BlackBart

10/5/18 9:15am

Having him not run out the flag is not condemning

LosAlcoug

10/5/18 11:37am

No one is going to care/notice

NacoCoug

10/5/18 9:18am

Until the three part series the Tribune will run over the next week on it...

Fdnman

10/5/18 9:20am

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che flaco

10/5/18 9:19am

I'm not that uptight but, c'mon guys, arrested for 4 felonies 3 weeks ago?!

fattycoug

10/5/18 9:28am

And if it turns out to be something that can't be "cleared up," then all the

Tricky

10/5/18 10:00am

I smell a news story at the Tribune in 3.....2.......1 Gordon Monson.

TAMUCoug

10/5/18 9:29am

Peggy Fletcher Stack will do a piece...

D.T. Survivor

10/5/18 10:06am

Don't worry. One nut punch by a BYU player and it will all be about on the field

AggieWeekendCougar

10/5/18 10:20am

not condoning felony assault but 2 things here:

LEHI cougar

10/5/18 9:29am

Not letting you run the flag out is not "turning your back" on a guy. Plenty of

fattycoug

10/5/18 9:34am

And "nobody will notice" is never a good reason to do something. Have Integrity

molodyets

10/5/18 9:50am

They announce the Alumni flag bearer on the PA. Everyone there knows.

BYUtka

10/5/18 9:39am

Try putting yourself in the shoes of the victim. What does it say if he's

Tricky

10/5/18 9:59am

Guilty until proven innocent, got it!

LEHI cougar

10/5/18 1:24pm

Nobody is accusing of innocence or guilt.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 1:27pm

By not letting him run out the flag? That's crazy talk.

ReggaeCoug

10/5/18 1:45pm

Wow. You are unbelievable. Go read the police report.

abacaxi22

10/5/18 1:53pm

Link? The only source on CB was his wikipedia page

STL

10/5/18 9:39am

Easy google search.

Malathion

10/5/18 9:58am

Completely agree. He should not be anywhere near the BYU program right now

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 10:02am

Give it a rest. The guy had a lot of history between the two programs.

slccoug

10/5/18 10:11am

Who cares if it is significant for him. He is facing charges for domestic abuse

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 11:00am

I think they should definitely reach out to him and get him involved with the

davidmj10

10/5/18 10:16am

I'm fine with them reaching out to him, trying to help, etc. But literal flag

fattycoug

10/5/18 10:18am

Who cares

byublue96

10/5/18 10:06am

I'd say at least the person he allegedly "assaulted with serious bodily injury"

fattycoug

10/5/18 10:21am

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crazY

10/5/18 12:10pm

You dont care about people beating women???

Machiavelli

10/5/18 10:37am

Did I say that?

byublue96

10/5/18 12:41pm

Yeah, you kind of did. That's how it comes off

fattycoug

10/5/18 12:42pm

no? you guys put those words in my mouth. I just want everyone to shut up about

byublue96

10/5/18 12:48pm

Grow up a little? Get outta here with that talk.

ReggaeCoug

10/5/18 1:49pm

He’s running out the flag. He’s not saying the prayer. I’ve very up to date on

byublue96

10/5/18 2:15pm

You think the human being decision-maker's at BYU can't make poor choices?

zCoug08

10/5/18 9:07pm

You literally did say that

Dillinger

10/5/18 12:47pm

They’re asking him to run the flag out not say the opening prayer

byublue96

10/5/18 1:01pm

Good point.

Seaward

10/5/18 1:05pm

Yes, yes you did.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 1:11pm

I get that saying who cares sounds like I don’t care about the issue. I do and

byublue96

10/5/18 2:22pm

No worries man. I get where youre coming from.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 2:53pm

Probably everybody on the Presidents Council. They're a little more interested in BYU's image than the average CBer.

Brisco

10/5/18 11:37am

I would not want him to run out the flag because he has publicly attacked BYU

D.T. Survivor

10/5/18 10:10am

Will someone fill me in? When and what did he do to publicly attack BYU?

MajorPain

10/5/18 10:26am

I think he posted something on social media that was pretty bad

davidmj10

10/5/18 10:28am

Sounds like he was just frustrated with the hassle of getting paperwork done

MajorPain

10/5/18 10:54am

I think it had something to do with an eclesiatical endorsement or something but

davidmj10

10/5/18 12:02pm

I don't know anything about it... but something about your post doesn't sit well

PJMort

10/5/18 10:16am

Don't get me wrong. I don't necessarily disagree with the premise.

PJMort

10/5/18 10:31am

That is exactly how I feel. I do know Fahu from his high school days.

davidmj10

10/5/18 10:40am

In my post I said if it gets worked out, by all means let him do it.

molodyets

10/5/18 10:49am

The content of your post was fine. The subject line was abrasive to me.

PJMort

10/5/18 11:41am

The post subject was fine. What’s abrasive is the apparently violent behavior he has towards women

JohnnyComeLately

10/5/18 12:42pm

I won't assume anything. Being thoughtful towards either side

PJMort

10/5/18 6:22pm

He is facing felony assault charges

BYULAWGUY

10/5/18 2:46pm

Shocked BYU fans defend this, but point fingers at Utes for giving

abacaxi22

10/5/18 10:22am

You are not wrong.

UNHuskerCoug

10/5/18 10:26am

I am shocked at your shock.

PJMort

10/5/18 10:27am

In fairness, there were a lot of people okay with the Carrington thing

fattycoug

10/5/18 10:29am

And I’m totally fine with those people. It certainly doesn’t appear

abacaxi22

10/5/18 10:36am

RE: And I’m totally fine with those people. It certainly doesn’t

PJMort

10/5/18 10:44am

1) fans are hypocrites everywhere. 2) disgusting is such a disgusting word

fattycoug

10/5/18 11:07am

I 100% agree. I'm blown away by the hypocrisy here.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 10:41am

OK, can you point to a time BYU fans criticized Utah or USU for its flag bearer?

PJMort

10/5/18 11:00am

or being indignant over the Ohio State thing

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 10:52am

Vast majority here aren't defending it. Look at the thumbs up/down.

IceCreamButt

10/5/18 6:24pm

I think very wrong for him to run out flag, and am

Rocketman

10/6/18 7:35pm

If we’re being honest, we’d pounce on the years if the situation was reversed

maxpowers

10/5/18 10:24am

As much as i like Tahi, I agree

Cougrrrs Roll

10/5/18 10:36am

I know someone who’s read the police report. They said it’s pretty ugly.

RdF3

10/5/18 10:38am

what better way to show our intent of what we are going to do to Utah State than

buckeyecougarguy

10/5/18 11:00am

Spoken like a true buckeye 😂

fattycoug

10/5/18 11:09am

Maybe he needs support right now...and

Modiolus

10/5/18 11:11am

Is he a victim or something? This was way too recent, it needs to resolve

ALC

10/5/18 11:24am

Lots of ways to support a guy without having him do this

fattycoug

10/5/18 11:39am

Revision: As details have unfolded I now agree that timing is not so good

Modiolus

10/5/18 3:37pm

He that is without arrests among you...let him run out the first flag.

andrewg3

10/5/18 11:13am

If he’s allowed to do this after what the police report says, BYU should be

USMCdad

10/5/18 11:41am

Lol pleas tell me this is TIC

SL12

10/5/18 11:59am

Now that's a serious overreaction

Indy Coug

10/5/18 12:05pm

RE: Now that's a serious overreaction

USMCdad

10/5/18 12:14pm

Do you think urban Meyer should have been fired for his ignoring domestic abuse scandal?

TEXAS

10/5/18 3:46pm

How is that remotely comparable? Tahi isn’t an employee of BYU

Indy Coug

10/5/18 5:23pm

I agree 100%. Shameful if the University allows him to be the flag bearer

DOdoubleG

10/5/18 12:36pm

Sounds like a devils triangle to me.

Bluedarts

10/5/18 12:13pm

I’m pretty sure if it was a big enough problem BYU wouldn’t let him do it.

byublue96

10/5/18 12:58pm

He broke multiple bones in his gfs face and pulled a gun on her bros 3 weeks ago

molodyets

10/5/18 1:04pm

People change. Dude probably hasn't beat up a woman and threatened to shoot her

fattycoug

10/5/18 1:08pm

How can anyone support this after reading the police report?

Machiavelli

10/5/18 2:41pm

His court docket is pretty lengthy

BYULAWGUY

10/5/18 2:45pm

I’d like to hear from anyone thdowning this an explanation as to why?

TEXAS

10/5/18 3:44pm

I didn't give a thdown, but I my guess is that since Fahu is a former BYU guy,

crazY

10/5/18 4:07pm

I was thinking this was the thread with the actual report so my bad. I’m guessing they didn’t know how serious it is and

TEXAS

10/5/18 4:09pm

What in the world, BYU better not let hm run the flag out.

ColumbusCoug

10/5/18 4:39pm

I know nothing re details, I’m in no position to judge either way. Those citing

MatthiasG

10/5/18 5:19pm

I am not at all surprised that happened to you. While I know that happens

Blue Cougar

10/5/18 5:39pm

I think that’s totally fair, and probably justified. My take is more about sheer

MatthiasG

10/5/18 5:46pm

Agreed. For me it is the severity of the allegations rather than any presumption

Blue Cougar

10/5/18 6:04pm

Been in the same situation. But with you and me, it involved one person.

zCoug08

10/5/18 7:02pm

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