Will someone fill me in? When and what did he do to publicly attack BYU?

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Conan

10/5/18 8:59am

If he beat up your daughter 3 wks ago would you want him representing the team?

molodyets

10/5/18 9:01am

I didn't know about the recent stuff, I thought you were referring to things from years ago.

Conan

10/5/18 9:49am

This isn’t something that happened a long time ago. It is 3 weeks ago.

AD4

10/5/18 9:02am

Finding forgiveness from God and those he abused (allegedly) is different than being honored by the program

JohnnyComeLately

10/5/18 9:09am

I'm sure the AD knows a lot more about the situation than the average CBer

BlackBart

10/5/18 9:18am

So, like he doesn’t have 4 pending felony assault charges?

JohnnyComeLately

10/5/18 9:20am

Why so sure. You think they do a background check for flagbearers. Good chance

fattycoug

10/5/18 9:24am

If anything, JCL is not the average CBr. Really, he's quite the big deal.

sevenIDcougs

10/5/18 9:59am

I'd rather see Riley Nelson run the flag out.

ReggaeCoug

10/5/18 9:01am

Would be cool, but his little bro plays for USU--it would never happen

Carnac

10/5/18 9:10am

I honestly don't care.

Jeffacka

10/5/18 9:01am

I thought most the board was supportive of 'innocent until proven guilty'

IceBlueCoug

10/5/18 9:02am

If this was the only problem he's had, you might have a point

Indy Coug

10/5/18 9:04am

He has a history, and there was enough to press charges. I'm not saying

molodyets

10/5/18 9:05am

yeah, the comparison with Kavanaugh is very different. Not even enough evidence

runnincoug

10/5/18 9:07am

Clearly a political attack? Thanks for clearing that up. You should report your

Y2k

10/5/18 9:00pm

Getting arrested... recently, seems like a bad look. They should not have him run out the flag. Not sure what the crap

46in96

10/5/18 9:07am

Sure, but if he turns out to be guilty, BYU won't look good honoring him 3 weeks

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 9:59am

Yes, in a criminal court

conflictedcoug

10/5/18 1:04pm

Messy situation. I am sad this is something we are even needing to talk about.

BYUtka

10/5/18 9:06am

Senator Schumer? Is that you?

TPcoug

10/5/18 9:09am

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Randall Toomey

10/5/18 9:09am

What kind of message does that send to assault victims?

RdF3

10/5/18 9:11am

You dont think assault is a big deal? What's wrong with you?

Machiavelli

10/5/18 10:39am

I should be asking you the same thing. You just said you hated all people from

Randall Toomey

10/5/18 10:40am

Lol I think you're confused. I never said anything about Louisiana.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 1:09pm

I thought we were putting words into each other's mouths

Randall Toomey

10/5/18 4:32pm

What are you even talking about???

Machiavelli

10/5/18 5:05pm

Where in the original post does it talk about the woman?

Randall Toomey

10/5/18 5:07pm

OP mentioned 4 felony assault charges. Then look 2 posts below that.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 5:21pm

BYU: Get arrested for assault? Run out our alumni flag!!!

Zach Morris

10/5/18 9:10am

Drank an espresso last week!!??? What!!!??? Arrested for beating a woman... meh.

46in96

10/5/18 9:13am

I bet the admin has no idea he was arrested 3 weeks ago. If those that made the

kansascougar

10/5/18 9:12am

Get over it, he’s running out the flag. He was fired by wells. I’m all for it

slccoug

10/5/18 9:13am

Why was he fired?

BYURider

10/5/18 9:19am

Don’t be so obsessed with sending a “bad image”. Welcome him back

slccoug

10/5/18 9:20am

You do realize that there is a great chance that if BYU football brings ill

Ozymandias

10/5/18 10:06am

I think I agree.

Ham

10/5/18 9:14am

Absent the facts, who are we to condemn a brother?

BlackBart

10/5/18 9:15am

Having him not run out the flag is not condemning

LosAlcoug

10/5/18 11:37am

No one is going to care/notice

NacoCoug

10/5/18 9:18am

Until the three part series the Tribune will run over the next week on it...

Fdnman

10/5/18 9:20am

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che flaco

10/5/18 9:19am

I'm not that uptight but, c'mon guys, arrested for 4 felonies 3 weeks ago?!

fattycoug

10/5/18 9:28am

And if it turns out to be something that can't be "cleared up," then all the

Tricky

10/5/18 10:00am

I smell a news story at the Tribune in 3.....2.......1 Gordon Monson.

TAMUCoug

10/5/18 9:29am

Peggy Fletcher Stack will do a piece...

D.T. Survivor

10/5/18 10:06am

Don't worry. One nut punch by a BYU player and it will all be about on the field

AggieWeekendCougar

10/5/18 10:20am

not condoning felony assault but 2 things here:

LEHI cougar

10/5/18 9:29am

Not letting you run the flag out is not "turning your back" on a guy. Plenty of

fattycoug

10/5/18 9:34am

And "nobody will notice" is never a good reason to do something. Have Integrity

molodyets

10/5/18 9:50am

They announce the Alumni flag bearer on the PA. Everyone there knows.

BYUtka

10/5/18 9:39am

Try putting yourself in the shoes of the victim. What does it say if he's

Tricky

10/5/18 9:59am

Guilty until proven innocent, got it!

LEHI cougar

10/5/18 1:24pm

Nobody is accusing of innocence or guilt.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 1:27pm

By not letting him run out the flag? That's crazy talk.

ReggaeCoug

10/5/18 1:45pm

Wow. You are unbelievable. Go read the police report.

abacaxi22

10/5/18 1:53pm

Link? The only source on CB was his wikipedia page

STL

10/5/18 9:39am

Easy google search.

Malathion

10/5/18 9:58am

Completely agree. He should not be anywhere near the BYU program right now

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 10:02am

Give it a rest. The guy had a lot of history between the two programs.

slccoug

10/5/18 10:11am

Who cares if it is significant for him. He is facing charges for domestic abuse

The Chelsea Dagger

10/5/18 11:00am

I think they should definitely reach out to him and get him involved with the

davidmj10

10/5/18 10:16am

I'm fine with them reaching out to him, trying to help, etc. But literal flag

fattycoug

10/5/18 10:18am

Who cares

byublue96

10/5/18 10:06am

I'd say at least the person he allegedly "assaulted with serious bodily injury"

fattycoug

10/5/18 10:21am

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crazY

10/5/18 12:10pm

You dont care about people beating women???

Machiavelli

10/5/18 10:37am

Did I say that?

byublue96

10/5/18 12:41pm

Yeah, you kind of did. That's how it comes off

fattycoug

10/5/18 12:42pm

no? you guys put those words in my mouth. I just want everyone to shut up about

byublue96

10/5/18 12:48pm

Grow up a little? Get outta here with that talk.

ReggaeCoug

10/5/18 1:49pm

He’s running out the flag. He’s not saying the prayer. I’ve very up to date on

byublue96

10/5/18 2:15pm

You think the human being decision-maker's at BYU can't make poor choices?

zCoug08

10/5/18 9:07pm

You literally did say that

Dillinger

10/5/18 12:47pm

They’re asking him to run the flag out not say the opening prayer

byublue96

10/5/18 1:01pm

Good point.

Seaward

10/5/18 1:05pm

Yes, yes you did.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 1:11pm

I get that saying who cares sounds like I don’t care about the issue. I do and

byublue96

10/5/18 2:22pm

No worries man. I get where youre coming from.

Machiavelli

10/5/18 2:53pm

Probably everybody on the Presidents Council. They're a little more interested in BYU's image than the average CBer.

Brisco