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Apr 19, 2019
1:34:55pm

Resurgens All-American

I don't feel like BYU is a notable enough research institution for this to

matter. Much ado has been made on CB and elsewhere about how BYU is not a grad program-driven research heavy school by their own admission and design. Would be kind of dumb if we got the worst of both worlds (not much prestige from research, but also turning away great players because of academics)

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Resurgens

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To those concerned about grad transfers not getting in.

(Private)

4/19/19 8:25am

Then you may also have a problem with many of our freshmen recruits as well

DrBYU

4/19/19 8:30am

Noooo. Freshmen recruits have to get into their majors like everyone else.

(Private)

4/19/19 9:45am

Yup. Getting accepted to BYU is very different from getting accepted to an

4/19/19 9:47am

If you think that the average FB gets into the university on the same basis as everyone else, you’re mistaken. If you’re

DrBYU

4/21/19 8:48am

I’d like you to point out something specific because I think you’re wrong

(Private)

4/21/19 10:12am

RE: To those concerned about grad transfers not getting in.

BYUfan92

4/19/19 8:31am

No. Even in your example they are only helping the AD side of the equation...

(Private)

4/19/19 9:47am

Donations to a university as a whole always go up when football has success

Playoff

4/19/19 9:49am

This is the correct take

Playoff

4/19/19 9:50am

I don't think admitting a few good football players is going to drag down BYU's

franklyvulgar

4/19/19 8:33am

Who said anything about dragging down the academics?

(Private)

4/19/19 9:48am

Not remotely true

thejimmer

4/19/19 8:34am

Your wrong. If BYU ever wants to compete nationally again they need players like

cougman02

4/19/19 8:47am

My bad meant to reply to the original post not yours

cougman02

4/19/19 8:47am

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idcougarfan

4/19/19 8:34am

Just hire Mr. X, Poindexter! 😉

PJMort

4/19/19 8:36am

Not sure that's an accurate comparison. I do agree that there should

ReggaeCoug

4/19/19 9:14am

Admit the football player, see the bigger picture.

4/19/19 9:23am

Bad analogy. Student, not an employee. 1 spot among over 30,000

boscatar

4/19/19 9:27am

Agreed. Not a good comparison. Also lack perspective on the value of successful

Trent

4/19/19 11:07am

Says who?

(Private)

4/19/19 12:00pm

Me. The guy who uses his real name. Wanna fight? 😉

Trent

4/19/19 12:08pm

No we are not. Which graduate program is he going to be admitted to?

(Private)

4/19/19 12:02pm

Have you been to grad school at BYU? I have. there is room for 1 more in most...

Trent

4/19/19 12:13pm

I do like your idea for more sports-related majors

boscatar

4/19/19 9:30am

And no controversy at bringing in whomever you want...

(Private)

4/19/19 9:50am

I don't even agree with creating a department just for athletes. Otherwise,

4/19/19 9:32am

It wouldn't be a department "just for athletes." But it would be one controlled

(Private)

4/19/19 9:51am

No, I get what you're saying, and I still don't like it. It's kind of a sham.

4/19/19 10:00am

There's more to it than you claim. Jobs in grad departments at BYU are partially

Lance71

4/19/19 10:06am

Actual work vs college. Apples / oranges. This post is DOA

Pretorian

4/19/19 10:14am

You lost me at "their"

fredgarvin

4/19/19 10:16am

Good catch: edited!

(Private)

4/19/19 12:04pm

I'd be like: "well is it really important to the whole organization and will it

Thundergun Express

4/19/19 10:58am

To be frank, the football team probably does more for BYU than any of the

Resurgens

4/19/19 11:22am

Dean of the B-school told me our B-school rankings improve when the football...

Trent

4/19/19 11:28am

To the public at large, sure. In academia and industry? Not so much. Sports help

4/19/19 11:31am

Not black or white. It absolutely helps. But you can't crap the bed on research.

Trent

4/19/19 11:55am

I don't feel like BYU is a notable enough research institution for this to

Resurgens

4/19/19 1:34pm

But the programs themselves don't see themselves that way.

The Dark Knight

4/19/19 2:08pm

RE: To those concerned about grad transfers not getting in.

4/19/19 11:35am

Look, I never wanted to work in fast food anyway.

(Private)

4/19/19 12:06pm

🙂 That was actually pretty funny. Whatever you do make sure it's on an island.

4/19/19 12:17pm

Which grad transfers haven't gotten in? Maybe when it happens we can worry.

ochobeeguy

4/19/19 11:55am

I bet you’re an awful employee

dizthewiz

4/19/19 12:06pm

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