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Apr 19, 2019
2:08:24pm

The Dark Knight All-American

But the programs themselves don't see themselves that way.

It's a question of how exclusive of a program he is applying for. In my field, they accept only 4-6 students per year. I can't fault a program that competitive for not bringing in someone unqualified. The Athletic Department needs to find a program that can absorb an athlete.

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The Dark Knight

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To those concerned about grad transfers not getting in.

(Private)

4/19/19 8:25am

Then you may also have a problem with many of our freshmen recruits as well

DrBYU

4/19/19 8:30am

Noooo. Freshmen recruits have to get into their majors like everyone else.

(Private)

4/19/19 9:45am

Yup. Getting accepted to BYU is very different from getting accepted to an

4/19/19 9:47am

If you think that the average FB gets into the university on the same basis as everyone else, you’re mistaken. If you’re

DrBYU

4/21/19 8:48am

I’d like you to point out something specific because I think you’re wrong

(Private)

4/21/19 10:12am

RE: To those concerned about grad transfers not getting in.

BYUfan92

4/19/19 8:31am

No. Even in your example they are only helping the AD side of the equation...

(Private)

4/19/19 9:47am

Donations to a university as a whole always go up when football has success

Playoff

4/19/19 9:49am

This is the correct take

Playoff

4/19/19 9:50am

I don't think admitting a few good football players is going to drag down BYU's

franklyvulgar

4/19/19 8:33am

Who said anything about dragging down the academics?

(Private)

4/19/19 9:48am

Not remotely true

thejimmer

4/19/19 8:34am

Your wrong. If BYU ever wants to compete nationally again they need players like

cougman02

4/19/19 8:47am

My bad meant to reply to the original post not yours

cougman02

4/19/19 8:47am

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idcougarfan

4/19/19 8:34am

Just hire Mr. X, Poindexter! 😉

PJMort

4/19/19 8:36am

Not sure that's an accurate comparison. I do agree that there should

ReggaeCoug

4/19/19 9:14am

Admit the football player, see the bigger picture.

4/19/19 9:23am

Bad analogy. Student, not an employee. 1 spot among over 30,000

boscatar

4/19/19 9:27am

Agreed. Not a good comparison. Also lack perspective on the value of successful

Trent

4/19/19 11:07am

Says who?

(Private)

4/19/19 12:00pm

Me. The guy who uses his real name. Wanna fight? 😉

Trent

4/19/19 12:08pm

No we are not. Which graduate program is he going to be admitted to?

(Private)

4/19/19 12:02pm

Have you been to grad school at BYU? I have. there is room for 1 more in most...

Trent

4/19/19 12:13pm

I do like your idea for more sports-related majors

boscatar

4/19/19 9:30am

And no controversy at bringing in whomever you want...

(Private)

4/19/19 9:50am

I don't even agree with creating a department just for athletes. Otherwise,

4/19/19 9:32am

It wouldn't be a department "just for athletes." But it would be one controlled

(Private)

4/19/19 9:51am

No, I get what you're saying, and I still don't like it. It's kind of a sham.

4/19/19 10:00am

There's more to it than you claim. Jobs in grad departments at BYU are partially

Lance71

4/19/19 10:06am

Actual work vs college. Apples / oranges. This post is DOA

Pretorian

4/19/19 10:14am

You lost me at "their"

fredgarvin

4/19/19 10:16am

Good catch: edited!

(Private)

4/19/19 12:04pm

I'd be like: "well is it really important to the whole organization and will it

Thundergun Express

4/19/19 10:58am

To be frank, the football team probably does more for BYU than any of the

Resurgens

4/19/19 11:22am

Dean of the B-school told me our B-school rankings improve when the football...

Trent

4/19/19 11:28am

To the public at large, sure. In academia and industry? Not so much. Sports help

4/19/19 11:31am

Not black or white. It absolutely helps. But you can't crap the bed on research.

Trent

4/19/19 11:55am

I don't feel like BYU is a notable enough research institution for this to

Resurgens

4/19/19 1:34pm

But the programs themselves don't see themselves that way.

The Dark Knight

4/19/19 2:08pm

RE: To those concerned about grad transfers not getting in.

4/19/19 11:35am

Look, I never wanted to work in fast food anyway.

(Private)

4/19/19 12:06pm

🙂 That was actually pretty funny. Whatever you do make sure it's on an island.

4/19/19 12:17pm

Which grad transfers haven't gotten in? Maybe when it happens we can worry.

ochobeeguy

4/19/19 11:55am

I bet you’re an awful employee

dizthewiz

4/19/19 12:06pm

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