Although I think Independence has been good

May 14, 2019
2:43:43pm

2FarGone No One of Consequence

if we weren't independent yet, we would have jumped at the offer from the Big 12, instability and all, and we would have been much better off. So, a net negative or a positive-negative?

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POLL: Football independence has been a

DKN Lord of Light 2020

5/14/19 2:39pm

Making the most of a no-win situation.

Indy Coug

5/14/19 2:40pm

board name checks out 🙂

franklyvulgar

5/14/19 2:41pm

So which is it then?

DKN

5/14/19 2:41pm

Although I think Independence has been good

2FarGone

5/14/19 2:43pm

What?

Pretorian

5/14/19 3:05pm

Far from perfect, but generally good. BYU does need to win more... esp at home.

Benfica1

5/14/19 2:47pm

While the program has declined in the period of independence, it is not because

NOCAL_YFAN

5/14/19 2:47pm

And Tom's decision to hire KS.

coolblue

5/14/19 3:36pm

I think the jury is still out on that

NOCAL_YFAN

5/14/19 3:37pm

Tom's decision to force KS to hire Detmer was a bigger problem.

displacedute

5/14/19 4:10pm

And at least be respectable

icecougar

5/14/19 6:57pm

And you KNOW he forced to hire him, how?

Count Cougar

5/14/19 9:22pm

KS went out of his way to throw TD under the bus. He's never done that to Grimes

Iki_Balam

5/14/19 9:59pm

Because Kalani wanted to win games, Tom wanted to win the press conference.

displacedute

5/14/19 10:07pm

Or KS was jealous that his OC was more popular with the fans.

Count Cougar

5/15/19 2:09pm

Bronco's inability to successfully navigate independence during BYU's first few

TrueBlue67

5/14/19 9:06pm

Spot on analysis. Maybe, if we were between 10 and 12 wins in Indy, we could say

Iki_Balam

5/14/19 10:02pm

I think the line between Indy lovers and haters is drawn based on

Pretorian

5/14/19 3:17pm

The goal should be P5 inclusion

puntersarepeople

5/14/19 3:28pm

100x this

COUGND

5/14/19 3:39pm

Exactly

Pretorian

5/14/19 6:07pm

TV has been great. Everything else... marginal.

IronPotato

5/14/19 4:51pm

Zero sum for football and a huge negative for b-ball.

idcougarfan

5/14/19 5:37pm

B-ball isn’t independent and the WCC is better than the MW

Pretorian

5/14/19 6:08pm

Other than Gonzaga, the WCC is not exciting.

idcougarfan

5/14/19 7:03pm

Is Nevada? UNLV was 30 years ago... New Mexico? Or are you still dreaming about

Pretorian

5/15/19 5:30am

Half of the WCC teams have BBall arenas with less then 5k attendance per game

MrCougarLover

5/15/19 9:54am

Yet we still can't win the conference and usually get 3rd.

BYUtka

5/15/19 10:13am

Meanwhile Gonzaga pumps out top 10 teams year in and year out, St. Mary's

fortysixn3

5/15/19 10:30am

We get 3rd because Gonzaga is a great team, no shame in losing to them and

MrCougarLover

5/15/19 10:32am

Because the MWC isn't as good? Why stop there? Why not Big Sky?

BYUtka

5/15/19 12:11pm

Not sure where you are going with this, but Big Sky is definitely not as good as

MrCougarLover

5/15/19 12:18pm

Right, if MWC is an improvement because they are not as good, Big Sky would be

BYUtka

5/15/19 3:53pm

The zags prove that arena size means nothing

Pretorian

5/15/19 1:25pm

+Villanova (6500)

Gentleman Stan

5/15/19 4:00pm

Huge negative in what way? Where would BYU b-ball be now had it stayed MWC?

fortysixn3

5/14/19 9:29pm

Probably a conference championship or two, and more meaningful conference games.

Demosthenes Red

5/14/19 9:31pm

That’s considered huge? So beating the mighty MWC champion (season and tourney)

fortysixn3

5/14/19 9:38pm

So the third place WCC team would win the MWC conference championship?

BYUtka

5/15/19 7:28am

More meaningful? The MWC is not very good.

Gentleman Stan

5/15/19 4:16pm

Meaningful in the sense of regional rivalries.

Demosthenes Red

5/15/19 10:18pm

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BYUtka

5/15/19 7:27am

A good mix between zero sum and positive. Mostly evened out tho.

bigbossbyu

5/15/19 1:42am

Agree with some of the comments above. “Best case scenario under current circumstances” is the missed option.

Refugee

5/15/19 7:24am

Bottom line is...

DaFreeCoug93

5/15/19 1:30pm

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