Right. I was just giving an example to counter those that assert that the raw

Jun 13, 2019
9:30:02am

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athleticism of an NFL defensive back - aka "our best athletes choose other sports" - is why the USMNT isn't (yet) elite.

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Here is a something to consider

YSMACK

6/12/19 3:59pm

^^^^^outstanding post^^^^

rotorhead

6/12/19 4:03pm

Uruguay is such an incredible story in world soccer. They churn out elite players year in and year out,

mik3

6/12/19 4:08pm

Cue the RM contingent...

777

6/12/19 4:16pm

Spot on. Tho I would imagine Bangladesh top sport is Cricket. But the point

2018grad

6/12/19 4:09pm

We have both problems

Incentivize

6/12/19 4:17pm

Sure, having more of our best athletes has to help, but it isn't our big problem

YSMACK

6/12/19 4:22pm

Define 'athletic'.

Mises

6/12/19 4:22pm

Good point. And just look at Usain Bolt's recent attempts to become a

JmThms

6/12/19 5:52pm

We'll yes, because he lacks SKILL. They're not the same thing

Dissenter

6/13/19 9:21am

Right. I was just giving an example to counter those that assert that the raw

JmThms

6/13/19 9:30am

Exactly. For those who don't know, here is a pic of Thomas Muller

NOCAL_YFAN

6/12/19 4:25pm

And look at Luca Modric. He looks like that starving little waif you see in

JmThms

6/12/19 5:54pm

You would think with many Latin American immigrants we would have a better team

DazeofBlue

6/12/19 4:28pm

It's in a better place now and keeps improving, but a significant barrier has been that a lot of those

mik3

6/12/19 4:32pm

Thats the bottom line problem: the bizarre youth soccer system

DazeofBlue

6/13/19 11:49am

They can’t play soccer from a Japanese internment camp. Trump is killing soccer

CougsBeatU

6/12/19 4:34pm

Has to be a joke of course.

JmThms

6/12/19 6:17pm

But when our elite athletes do go into soccer we beat countries like Thailand 13-0. Really makes you think.

shimmy

6/12/19 4:39pm

I don't follow soccer but aren't there a lot of players from Africa who

ChiCityCoug

6/12/19 4:50pm

Negative. The overwhelming majority of the French WC-winning squad was born in France.

mik3

6/12/19 4:56pm

But the implication is that they were African French, not Gallic French.

Supercoug

6/12/19 4:59pm

Right, but the poster was advancing the argument that perhaps the French were stealing the best

mik3

6/12/19 5:03pm

Right. #FIFARules

Supercoug

6/12/19 5:04pm

Got it. Like I said I don’t follow soccer so I was wrong ablht

ChiCityCoug

6/12/19 8:43pm

Iceland’s recent success backs up this point

4mack

6/12/19 4:51pm

I'm not sure we know what Iceland means. Their success seems to be somewhat isolated to that team.

Supercoug

6/12/19 5:01pm

Their development process has been chronicled.

JmThms

6/12/19 6:20pm

2018 is the only WC they've ever qualified for, and bounced at the group stage.

Supercoug

6/12/19 6:36pm

They are a small country that has developed a soccer development culture that

JmThms

6/12/19 9:58pm

I would humbly submit that this is changing fast.

Supercoug

6/12/19 5:14pm

Yeah. I just wish that it was happening

RSL

6/12/19 5:17pm

That's why I say we are not going to be where we need to be until 2026.

Supercoug

6/12/19 5:18pm

I think that is a great point.

YSMACK

6/12/19 5:19pm

And kers think about this while the current senior team depresses us.

JmThms

6/12/19 6:24pm

I'm torn on the issue.

RSL

6/12/19 5:16pm

Totally agree with that.

YSMACK

6/12/19 5:19pm

Good post, YSMACK.

RSL

6/12/19 5:17pm

One thing I liked about Klinsman is his recognition of this

D.T. Survivor

6/12/19 5:36pm

Stephen Szymanski in his book "Soccernomics" goes way into this.

JmThms

6/12/19 5:38pm

What is the “MLS Model?” How is it different?

lefty

6/12/19 5:46pm

You know, the single-entity, closed franchise model.

JmThms

6/12/19 5:47pm

I don’t know actually. But I’m curious. What is a closed franchise?

lefty

6/12/19 5:50pm

Most domestic soccer structures around the world are characterized

JmThms

6/12/19 6:10pm

And I don't believe America suffers because "our best athletes don't go into

JmThms

6/12/19 5:46pm

Yep, I’ve seen the Lebron argument

D.T. Survivor

6/12/19 6:09pm

Peter Crouch was pretty good. Zlatan is 6'5". But no,

JmThms

6/12/19 6:12pm

I mean, LeBron would still be a basketball player if he were from Brazil

Dissenter

6/13/19 9:25am

Possibly on Westbrook. But not 100%. Again raw athleticism doesn't have as much

JmThms

6/13/19 9:35am

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