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Aug 10, 2019
9:11:50pm

Radioactive Coug All-American

Is that like walmart forcing you to pay them money?

I don't understand the force issue. If you want something, you usually have to give something. I understand you also have to give byui money and that walmart only requires shoes and a shirt (if even), and the byui rules are weird. But there is no force going on here.

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Radioactive Coug

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Conversation with my BYUI son. Me: “I heard BYUI is way more strict than Provo”

Zaphod

8/10/19 5:41pm

The rule of no capris is not because it shows leg. Girls can wear knee length skirts.

Mr. Belding

8/10/19 5:42pm

RE: The rule of no capris is not because it shows leg. Girls can wear knee

Zaphod

8/10/19 5:43pm

I’m struggling to understand what about capris is immodest.

8/10/19 5:43pm

The rule isn’t about modesty

Mr. Belding

8/10/19 5:44pm

Yeah, obviously. What is it about again?

Zaphod

8/10/19 5:44pm

RE: Yeah, obviously. What is it about again?

SierraCoug

8/10/19 5:47pm

Frostbite while walking to class at -20 degrees. It for safety and health reasons.

John Doe

8/10/19 6:12pm

Are students not intelligent enough to dress for the weather?

8/10/19 6:23pm

Tide pods.

SierraCoug

8/10/19 6:28pm

Obviously not if they have to make a rule. To be fair, I grew up near there and never even owned non-gym shorts or swim

John Doe

8/10/19 6:34pm

Dude, this is capris. It’s an arbitrary, strange rule.

8/10/19 6:41pm

TIC meter broken?

John Doe

8/10/19 6:42pm

RE: TIC meter broken?

8/10/19 7:27pm

what’s it about?

cougfanz

8/10/19 5:45pm

Then what in the world is it about?

LilToney

8/10/19 5:46pm

RE: The rule isn’t about modesty

JohnnyComeLately

8/10/19 5:47pm

Inquiring minds want to know what is it about?

Wingnut

8/10/19 5:47pm

They claim it’s about professionalism. They want to make a no jeans rule and also a collared shirt rule. But they

Mr. Belding

8/10/19 5:48pm

I think that's a great idea. But I can imagine that it won't be very popular with college kids

Wingnut

8/10/19 5:50pm

If by great, you mean draconian, backwards, creepy, and weird... I agree.

8/10/19 5:52pm

I'm not talking necessarily about the details but the idea of dressing business or business casual in college

Wingnut

8/10/19 5:55pm

I get what you’re saying, but forcing students to dress that way is weird.

8/10/19 5:56pm

I really don't give a rip about the details

Wingnut

8/10/19 5:58pm

Yeah, to learn. Not to be treated like children. I get teaching students about

8/10/19 6:00pm

So what you're really saying is school should not ever under any

DJROSS

8/10/19 6:41pm

Of course they shouldn’t. It’s not a professional environment and there’s no

Jay Rick

8/10/19 8:01pm

Forcing only means that they have no other choice. They can choose to attend

DJROSS

8/10/19 6:00pm

Is that like walmart forcing you to pay them money?

Radioactive Coug

8/10/19 9:11pm

It’s not a business school. Why would college kids need to dress like they are in the business world? No jeans? Haha

The Dude Abides

8/10/19 6:13pm

Very true. BYU-Idaho is not a business school but school is a place where we attempt to prepare young people

Wingnut

8/10/19 6:16pm

They should focus on improving the education provided then and stop focusing on

cougfanz

8/10/19 6:20pm

Your posting history would suggest you care a lot about the dress code.

TCuz

8/10/19 6:21pm

I've spoken with an administrator at BYU-I and he told me that they definitely get better/more companies to recruit on

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 9:29pm

I’m sure he believes that. Which is part of the problem.

The Dude Abides

8/10/19 9:31pm

he gets feedback from companies. they tell him they like it. this isn't something he thinks works... he's told it works

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 9:38pm

BYU-Idaho Admin = old white dude who believes in 1950s Church culture.

TheWanderer

8/10/19 9:45pm

nope - was in his 30s

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 9:49pm

Ewww. The young BYU-Idaho stool pigeons are the worst.

TheWanderer

8/10/19 9:53pm

Haha

cougfanz

8/10/19 10:01pm

You’re losing better talent/students so I don’t buy that for a second

cougfanz

8/10/19 10:01pm

Of course an administrator says that. I don't think that is a reputable source.

Baron

8/10/19 11:25pm

I talked to a Philip Morris exec and he said smoking is safe

8/11/19 6:17am

They can take a class about how to dress in the business world. That’s where they’ll learn.

The Dude Abides

8/10/19 6:15pm

Sorry but no they won't. Applied science means actually doing something which

DJROSS

8/10/19 6:49pm

What.

TCuz

8/10/19 6:51pm

RE: Sorry but no they won't. Applied science means actually doing something

Loon to the Moon

8/10/19 7:24pm

Lawyers have to wear suit and ties in court and not one law school requires that

Baron

8/10/19 7:28pm

Cause law school is pointless?

TCuz

8/10/19 7:29pm

That is true but not what I was going for.

Baron

8/10/19 7:33pm

And yet everyone else in this world managed to learn how to dress professionally

WDaddy

8/10/19 8:13pm

It’s a ridiculous idea.

The Dude Abides

8/10/19 5:53pm

That's a great opinion that we can disagree on

Wingnut

8/10/19 5:54pm

RE: They claim it’s about professionalism. They want to make a no jeans

8/10/19 5:51pm

Haha that’s awesome.

The Dude Abides

8/10/19 5:51pm

Sounds like prison or military academy

Archaea

8/10/19 5:52pm

don't you think the formality at a school like VMI helps those students get better jobs than they would otherwise

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 10:17pm

VMI are seeking jobs in the military. Are BYU-I grads?

Archaea

8/11/19 5:11pm

It’s college. The kids are paying to be there. When they pay the kids they can

Lieutenant America

8/10/19 5:53pm

RE: It’s college. The kids are paying to be there. When they pay the kids

Homercles

8/10/19 7:26pm

So no shorts is a ridiculous stipulation.

conetah

8/11/19 8:20am

All of those types of stipulations are ridiculous. At BYU and BYU I

Lieutenant America

8/11/19 5:34pm

Can’t wear hats either.

Mr. Belding

8/10/19 6:01pm

In rexburg. Yea okay.

Jeremy

8/10/19 6:14pm

Dumb. Stop creating arbitrary rules. The admin needs a complete overhaul and a

WDaddy

8/10/19 6:38pm

I know you didn’t write the rule but ‘business professional’?

BYU'01

8/10/19 7:44pm

Boom. See my post above (not all students are preparing for professional

Jay Rick

8/10/19 8:04pm

Do you want to name more companies that don't recruit on campus? No way will those companies go to R-burg even if BYU-I

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 9:33pm

I've helped hire quite a few BYU-Idaho students.

TheWanderer

8/10/19 9:52pm

so because your company doesn't care that means no companies care? the dress code helps more than it hurts - it's a

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 10:01pm

Well, we are the biggest employer in IF besides the school district....so.

TheWanderer

8/10/19 10:11pm

Right, so the top companies aren’t interested but

BYU'01

8/11/19 1:29pm

They are not looking for top-tier companies to come. They understand their limitations. They are looking for tier

HarlemCoug

8/11/19 2:56pm

You know what would make the school even more of a professional atmosphere?

8/10/19 9:13pm

administrators can't open the darn things without getting squirted in the eyes.

Cougarclaw

8/10/19 5:53pm

What’s it for then?

bornbyu93

8/10/19 5:58pm

Flip-flops and sandals are not allowed on campus. Are those about modesty?

RexIdaCoug

8/10/19 6:17pm

Talked to a student this weekend that couldn't take a test because her dress

mudpupper

8/10/19 5:50pm

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SandYFan

8/10/19 6:28pm

Good grief. That's simply ludicrous.

eddog

8/11/19 7:15am

Ok, THAT makes me angry.

Resurgens

8/11/19 6:07pm

So what is the rule for?

The Dude Abides

8/10/19 5:50pm

Can they show their shoulders though?

Natedog916

8/10/19 5:47pm

I always enjoy the irony of BYU fans making fun of BYU-I dress code.

rocker

8/10/19 6:36pm

We all agree that BYU's dress code needs to be overhauled. BYUi took it and

WDaddy

8/10/19 6:49pm

we don't all agree. the policy is wise and gets people better jobs.

HarlemCoug

8/10/19 9:34pm

I’d be curious to know if there’s any actual evidence to support this claim.

Jay Rick

8/11/19 7:20am

Ok fine, we* all agree

Resurgens

8/11/19 6:08pm

What is ironic?

Baron

8/10/19 7:22pm

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Zaphod

8/10/19 7:55pm

Most BYU fans that make fun of BYUI's code don't like BYU's either. How is that

8/10/19 9:15pm

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