Hall and Beck were nothing alike. Both very different QBs who had success for

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Aug 16, 2019
11:49:33am

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different reasons.

Mangum and Heaps were more in the Beck mold.

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How is Wilson unlike Heaps and Mangum and more like Hall and Beck?

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 11:47am

Hall and Beck were nothing alike. Both very different QBs who had success for

Baron

8/16/19 11:49am

How?

SandYFan

8/16/19 11:50am

What I meant was success wise. I know they are different.

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 11:51am

Both were Toros...go Toros, beat the Jack Rabbits! 😉

Trent

8/16/19 2:19pm

And Westwood. Such a horrible school.

GilbertAZCougar

8/16/19 3:15pm

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tcatr

8/16/19 4:52pm

For starters, heaps didn’t have anywhere near the freshmen year wilson and magnum had

cougarmanguy

8/16/19 11:51am

Yep. Wilson's PER last year was better than anything we've seen since Beck and

dilbert

8/16/19 12:15pm

I agree. And Beck wasn't very good his first year. Wilson is far better

bluefish

8/16/19 1:05pm

This is even more impressive considering his receivers’ drop rate was literally 10%.

antiyewt

8/16/19 9:08pm

thats not true,

nybyblue

8/16/19 2:42pm

Wilson is more athletic than Heaps and Mangum

Brigham

8/16/19 11:54am

Heaps could somewhat move, but tanner was a statue

LifelongAP

8/16/19 1:09pm

He's a more cerebral QB than those two. Both of those guys were known

Lip Gallagher

8/16/19 11:55am

I see a closer comparison between Beck and Wilson.

Richbyu

8/16/19 11:55am

Do you mean Heaps senior year as the Miami backup?

Michael McQuain

8/16/19 11:56am

Sorry, I meant to say Beck's senior season. I'll correct the error.

Richbyu

8/16/19 11:58am

No worries. I had to stop and try and remember Heaps as a senior

Michael McQuain

8/16/19 12:10pm

Beck's Junior year was better than anything we've had at the QB spot since 09.

SandYFan

8/16/19 12:01pm

When Taysom was healthy around his junior year or so he was right up there with

BYUCLA

8/16/19 3:15pm

I don't really take "if" into consideration, to be honest.

SandYFan

8/16/19 4:13pm

True, I was just pointing out that we have had better QB play than Becks Jr year

BYUCLA

8/16/19 6:46pm

What was Taysom’s best season completion %?

antiyewt

8/16/19 9:12pm

I loved Beck’s senior year. He was surgical

OSUCougar

8/16/19 1:58pm

Swagger, coolheadedness, athleticism

Coop

8/16/19 11:56am

Wow, that’s some high praise

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 12:02pm

What? He choked in a few big games. He was a freshman so I'm not worried about

vagabonder

8/16/19 12:21pm

So much wrong here

Coop

8/16/19 12:29pm

The last play against Boise State was an abomination. Nothing Max or John did

vagabonder

8/16/19 12:54pm

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement on two accounts

Coop

8/16/19 1:02pm

I think that game in particular, motivated Wilson to get even more serious about film study.

antiyewt

8/17/19 4:39pm

Hopefully we do what Utah State did last year

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 6:01pm

Hall was not the QB in the 54-10 debacle... that would be Heaps.

tcherrin

8/16/19 4:15pm

Don't you dare try to bring accurate information into an obvious assasination

byublue42

8/16/19 7:24pm

I think Wilson has to somehow get over the psychological disadvantage

BlueFever

8/16/19 11:59am

I pray

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 12:02pm

The Heaps hype was never actually supported by his stats.

Left Shark Coug

8/16/19 12:01pm

He was pretty good the end of his freshman year. 13-2 TD/int in the last 4-5

cougaman

8/16/19 1:11pm

Those were some really terrible defenses. Abysmal, even. And even with being

Left Shark Coug

8/16/19 1:16pm

Besides the main areas you mentioned

I'mBatman

8/16/19 12:05pm

IMO, it's his accuracy. He's very accurate, and Heaps/Mangum weren't as accurate as Beck/Hall/Wilson...

ocmyhome

8/16/19 12:16pm

Mangum was accurate at the Elite 11 camp

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 12:18pm

RE: Mangum was accurate at the Elite 11 camp

golf1

8/16/19 1:12pm

Two things

Heinz57

8/16/19 12:41pm

It's all a crapshoot. All of it.

Philosoraptor

8/16/19 12:44pm

They had the same offensive coordinator multiple years?

cougaman

8/16/19 1:06pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Wilson reminds me far more of McMahon

Refugee

8/16/19 1:36pm

The o-line from 2005-2009 was incredible. Excellent at their jobs.

SandYFan

8/16/19 1:43pm

In game decisions and accuracy

Thundergun Express

8/16/19 2:09pm

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BountifulCoug5

8/16/19 2:12pm

Receivers and O-Line make the QB shine.

TheLost

8/16/19 2:13pm

For one, Wilson had a better freshman year than any of them

dwhitebud

8/16/19 2:26pm

Wilson was accurate even when he had to throw to his 2nd and 3rd option and

Lance71

8/16/19 2:41pm

I hope he is mentally tougher. I will withhold judgement until after cougarboard

PhilPete

8/16/19 2:44pm

Wilson seems like a blending of Hall and Beck, the best of both...

icecougar

8/16/19 2:47pm

He took 2 girls to his senior prom. I think it is pretty clear that he is

byubyu

8/16/19 2:50pm

Wilson has arm strength, athleticism, and can make any throw on field needed

D.T. Survivor

8/16/19 2:51pm

Wilson is going to be really good because he throws such a catchable ball

OGSuperfan

8/16/19 2:52pm

Short Memory

Traveling Coug

8/16/19 3:03pm

Wilson has the best jukes of them all

puntersarepeople

8/16/19 3:12pm

Easy. Both Beck and Wilson are described by coaches as “film junkies.”

deliciousmocha

8/16/19 3:21pm

It’s crazy to me that Heaps and Mangums best years were their freshman seasons.

bigbossbyu

8/16/19 3:51pm

So much of success is mental—confidence, etc. Oh,

Refugee

8/16/19 4:01pm

No, he is more like McMahon after year #1.

Rocketman

8/16/19 4:11pm

He has Jimbo confidence for sure

Heinz57

8/16/19 4:38pm

TM sucked

Y4LYFE

8/16/19 10:24pm

You suck

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