They had the same offensive coordinator multiple years?

Aug 16, 2019
1:06:28pm

cougaman All-American

Doman and Detmer were not good coordinators. Cause or effect, I'm not sure. The coach can make the QB log good for sure, but sometimes the QB makes or breaks the coach.

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How is Wilson unlike Heaps and Mangum and more like Hall and Beck?

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 11:47am

Hall and Beck were nothing alike. Both very different QBs who had success for

Baron

8/16/19 11:49am

How?

SandYFan

8/16/19 11:50am

What I meant was success wise. I know they are different.

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 11:51am

Both were Toros...go Toros, beat the Jack Rabbits! 😉

Trent

8/16/19 2:19pm

And Westwood. Such a horrible school.

GilbertAZCougar

8/16/19 3:15pm

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tcatr

8/16/19 4:52pm

For starters, heaps didn’t have anywhere near the freshmen year wilson and magnum had

cougarmanguy

8/16/19 11:51am

Yep. Wilson's PER last year was better than anything we've seen since Beck and

dilbert

8/16/19 12:15pm

I agree. And Beck wasn't very good his first year. Wilson is far better

bluefish

8/16/19 1:05pm

This is even more impressive considering his receivers’ drop rate was literally 10%.

antiyewt

8/16/19 9:08pm

thats not true,

nybyblue

8/16/19 2:42pm

Wilson is more athletic than Heaps and Mangum

Brigham

8/16/19 11:54am

Heaps could somewhat move, but tanner was a statue

LifelongAP

8/16/19 1:09pm

He's a more cerebral QB than those two. Both of those guys were known

Lip Gallagher

8/16/19 11:55am

I see a closer comparison between Beck and Wilson.

Richbyu

8/16/19 11:55am

Do you mean Heaps senior year as the Miami backup?

Michael McQuain

8/16/19 11:56am

Sorry, I meant to say Beck's senior season. I'll correct the error.

Richbyu

8/16/19 11:58am

No worries. I had to stop and try and remember Heaps as a senior

Michael McQuain

8/16/19 12:10pm

Beck's Junior year was better than anything we've had at the QB spot since 09.

SandYFan

8/16/19 12:01pm

When Taysom was healthy around his junior year or so he was right up there with

BYUCLA

8/16/19 3:15pm

I don't really take "if" into consideration, to be honest.

SandYFan

8/16/19 4:13pm

True, I was just pointing out that we have had better QB play than Becks Jr year

BYUCLA

8/16/19 6:46pm

What was Taysom’s best season completion %?

antiyewt

8/16/19 9:12pm

I loved Beck’s senior year. He was surgical

OSUCougar

8/16/19 1:58pm

Swagger, coolheadedness, athleticism

Coop

8/16/19 11:56am

Wow, that’s some high praise

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 12:02pm

What? He choked in a few big games. He was a freshman so I'm not worried about

vagabonder

8/16/19 12:21pm

So much wrong here

Coop

8/16/19 12:29pm

The last play against Boise State was an abomination. Nothing Max or John did

vagabonder

8/16/19 12:54pm

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement on two accounts

Coop

8/16/19 1:02pm

I think that game in particular, motivated Wilson to get even more serious about film study.

antiyewt

8/17/19 4:39pm

Hopefully we do what Utah State did last year

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 6:01pm

Hall was not the QB in the 54-10 debacle... that would be Heaps.

tcherrin

8/16/19 4:15pm

Don't you dare try to bring accurate information into an obvious assasination

byublue42

8/16/19 7:24pm

I think Wilson has to somehow get over the psychological disadvantage

BlueFever

8/16/19 11:59am

I pray

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 12:02pm

The Heaps hype was never actually supported by his stats.

Left Shark Coug

8/16/19 12:01pm

He was pretty good the end of his freshman year. 13-2 TD/int in the last 4-5

cougaman

8/16/19 1:11pm

Those were some really terrible defenses. Abysmal, even. And even with being

Left Shark Coug

8/16/19 1:16pm

Besides the main areas you mentioned

I'mBatman

8/16/19 12:05pm

IMO, it's his accuracy. He's very accurate, and Heaps/Mangum weren't as accurate as Beck/Hall/Wilson...

ocmyhome

8/16/19 12:16pm

Mangum was accurate at the Elite 11 camp

Hawk Talons

8/16/19 12:18pm

RE: Mangum was accurate at the Elite 11 camp

golf1

8/16/19 1:12pm

Two things

Heinz57

8/16/19 12:41pm

It's all a crapshoot. All of it.

Philosoraptor

8/16/19 12:44pm

They had the same offensive coordinator multiple years?

cougaman

8/16/19 1:06pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Wilson reminds me far more of McMahon

Refugee

8/16/19 1:36pm

The o-line from 2005-2009 was incredible. Excellent at their jobs.

SandYFan

8/16/19 1:43pm

In game decisions and accuracy

Thundergun Express

8/16/19 2:09pm

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BountifulCoug5

8/16/19 2:12pm

Receivers and O-Line make the QB shine.

TheLost

8/16/19 2:13pm

For one, Wilson had a better freshman year than any of them

dwhitebud

8/16/19 2:26pm

Wilson was accurate even when he had to throw to his 2nd and 3rd option and

Lance71

8/16/19 2:41pm

I hope he is mentally tougher. I will withhold judgement until after cougarboard

PhilPete

8/16/19 2:44pm

Wilson seems like a blending of Hall and Beck, the best of both...

icecougar

8/16/19 2:47pm

He took 2 girls to his senior prom. I think it is pretty clear that he is

byubyu

8/16/19 2:50pm

Wilson has arm strength, athleticism, and can make any throw on field needed

D.T. Survivor

8/16/19 2:51pm

Wilson is going to be really good because he throws such a catchable ball

OGSuperfan

8/16/19 2:52pm

Short Memory

Traveling Coug

8/16/19 3:03pm

Wilson has the best jukes of them all

puntersarepeople

8/16/19 3:12pm

Easy. Both Beck and Wilson are described by coaches as “film junkies.”

deliciousmocha

8/16/19 3:21pm

It’s crazy to me that Heaps and Mangums best years were their freshman seasons.

bigbossbyu

8/16/19 3:51pm

So much of success is mental—confidence, etc. Oh,

Refugee

8/16/19 4:01pm

No, he is more like McMahon after year #1.

Rocketman

8/16/19 4:11pm

He has Jimbo confidence for sure

Heinz57

8/16/19 4:38pm

TM sucked

Y4LYFE

8/16/19 10:24pm

You suck

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