I agree. For some reason, I think cooler heads (Rose) might have got us a win.

Dec 11, 2019
11:44:40am

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In my opinion, I think we lose to Houston without Pope, either UCLA or Virginia Tech too (one or the other). I think we win at Utah with Rose. There's no way to back this up, obviously.

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Completely agree that Pope is doing a great job, and that it was time for Rose

Goliath

12/11/19 10:21am

Rose had tons of talent, let's not kid ourselves here. Pope is an upgrade

Cougar TD

12/11/19 10:22am

Of course he's an upgrade, I said as much in my OP. Don't kid your own self

Goliath

12/11/19 10:26am

Rose definitely had talent. You act like they had nothing, but Rose for years

Cougar TD

12/11/19 10:33am

I did nothing to say or act like they had no talent. You're making that up. I

Goliath

12/11/19 10:36am

Let’s see how it plays out. Rose had sustained success. Owned the yewts.

TriggerWarning

12/11/19 10:26am

Absolutely agree, this is simply an observation from 10+ games

Cougar TD

12/11/19 10:34am

in basketball BYU seems to have a history of new coaches making an upgrade

BlueK

12/11/19 10:37am

Agreed. Sometimes you just need to inject new energy into a program.

Goliath

12/11/19 10:38am

Hey! BYU beat Clemson!

Brigham

12/11/19 11:28am

So the fact those players are here because of Pope doesn’t matter?

BigD Coug

12/11/19 10:25am

Please read real slowly once again what I wrote

Goliath

12/11/19 10:27am

Having Barcello/Toolson instead of Li and Da Silva is huge. Crazy how much

ayfan

12/11/19 10:28am

And bringing in guys that Rose ran off, has really helped.

Plato

12/11/19 10:45am

Wouldn't the fact that they're better be a compliment to Pope?

cougfan03

12/11/19 10:28am

Not to mention we wouldn't have most of them if not for Pope.

cougfan03

12/11/19 10:29am

Maybe some of it, maybe not all of it. Hard to dissect that, especially this

Goliath

12/11/19 10:30am

I think we've seen an upgrade in assistant coaches too.

JJCoug

12/11/19 10:30am

This is possibly the biggest part right now. Pope have a lot of credit to them

Cougar TD

12/11/19 10:36am

The defensive effort & the dedication to rebounding is night & day from last yr

CaliWG

12/11/19 10:34am

great points

Cougforgood

12/11/19 10:40am

Agree completely, I think you meant to say Pope instead of Rose in last sentence

fldnstrm

12/11/19 10:35am

Thanks--Edited

Goliath

12/11/19 10:37am

These coaches have clearly had an affect on Lee & Nixon

Hinta

12/11/19 10:43am

I would add Seljaas to the list.

Dakota Cougar

12/11/19 10:49am

I haven't seen any improvement with Seljaas, & stats bear it out

Hinta

12/11/19 10:52am

He seems like a much better defender and rebounder this year. That's all my

Dakota Cougar

12/11/19 10:54am

Seljaas was a huge contributor early in the season. He was the "big" who brought

Cougforgood

12/11/19 10:56am

Pope is getting from his players a level of consistency and effort that we used

BlueK

12/11/19 10:52am

You didn't address the offensive and defensive philosopy/sheme changes which

Plato

12/11/19 10:54am

There's a whole bunch of things I didn't address. Never was intended to be a

Goliath

12/11/19 11:07am

I didn't say he hasn't improved.

Plato

12/11/19 11:47am

Yoeli has shown a willingness and ability to pass out of the post this year

Cougforgood

12/11/19 12:12pm

I agree, but he was doing his job last year within the scheme

Plato

12/11/19 5:33pm

it's possible, we don't know for sure what was asked

Cougforgood

12/11/19 5:40pm

We know if we just compared the offense they're running now compared to the last

Plato

12/11/19 5:43pm

What we did without Yoeli tells me all I need to know

Remigius

12/11/19 10:56am

For this to be true, we really need to make the tournament

Cougforgood

12/11/19 11:06am

To be fair, they also lost games they should not have lost. That might also be

Goliath

12/11/19 11:09am

Boise is really the only game they lost that they should have won

Remigius

12/11/19 11:21am

i would add the utah game to that as well, officiating notwithstanding

oryguncoug

12/11/19 11:34am

I agree. For some reason, I think cooler heads (Rose) might have got us a win.

JJCoug

12/11/19 11:44am

TJ Haws is the best evidence for me that Pope is good.

QBarrister

12/11/19 11:43am

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