So why have we been average or below average the last 9 years?

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Feb 23, 2020
4:26:31pm

Traveshamockery All-American

We’ve had RMs all those seasons. Interestingly, one of our best players ever (Jimmer) wasn’t an RM.

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Traveshamockery

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BYU age/maturity advantage due to missions, if you think it's not an advantage

salamishitake

2/23/20 2:47pm

You're right. Teams should send their players into the peace corp for 2 years.

dYrtbYkerYder

2/23/20 2:49pm

They should, so long as they can play ball every morning for an hour or so

salamishitake

2/23/20 2:52pm

missionaries aren't playing ball every day. Some even rarely do rarely

fattycoug

2/23/20 2:56pm

Even if they did play every day which obviously they don’t,

The Dude Abides

2/23/20 3:15pm

We all know you’re a lair now. So go away. We don’t mind banter but if youre

SouthernBlueBlood

2/23/20 2:58pm

How did I diminish the two years of service? Missionaries are encouraged to stay

salamishitake

2/23/20 4:08pm

Served in Utah?

Bin01015

2/23/20 6:08pm

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jes2332

2/23/20 3:01pm

Played basketball like 3-5 times my entire mission.

Bin01015

2/23/20 3:01pm

Who are these 25 year old seniors you speak of?

jes2332

2/23/20 3:02pm

Lol. You are so full of crap. You're making stuff up

shimmy

2/23/20 9:53pm

IF IT WAS SUCH AN ADVANTAGE...

BYU4eVeR

2/23/20 2:49pm

Nah, the elite teams are cool just leaving advantages lying around untapped.

Mitty

2/24/20 7:02pm

If a mission was an advantage, other schools would make their athletes go.

idcougarfan

2/23/20 2:50pm

I don’t think it’s an advantage for most sports/positions (linemen may be the

Scratch

2/23/20 2:52pm

A player that redshirts, gets another year due to medical stuff

salamishitake

2/23/20 2:57pm

27 years old? How long do you think 2 years is?

Alpi Gusto

2/23/20 3:10pm

And the same scenario leads to a 25 year old player non rm. Big whoop

LiveCoug

2/23/20 6:32pm

Which seniors have redshirted in any way? 23 for a RM senior.

ochobeeguy

2/23/20 6:45pm

Ah- clearly you’re not a return missionary

SouthernBlueBlood

2/23/20 2:51pm

LOL, dudes on my mission played every day, and I went to a developing country

salamishitake

2/23/20 2:53pm

Now you’re making me mad because either you’re a liar or you went to a mission

SouthernBlueBlood

2/23/20 2:55pm

the Zags??? This doesn't have anything to do with them

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:06pm

Haha most missionaries won’t get up at 6:30 like they are supposed to. Yet you

The Dude Abides

2/23/20 3:31pm

Hmmm doesn’t sound like missions I’m familiar with. Ball every day? Nah

BYUfan92

2/23/20 2:59pm

My companions and I absolutely did. Every morning

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:15pm

Then you were a bad missionary

Beggar

2/23/20 3:54pm

Cool. So they shot some hoops. Not nearly the kind of reps

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 5:00pm

So you also are buddies with a lot of former BYU players?

No touching

2/23/20 6:17pm

It’s a special mission where all college basketball players get assigned

SouthernBlueBlood

2/23/20 6:24pm

It's just a shame they can't have them practice as they do at BYU. Though evidently it's pretty close to that level.

No touching

2/23/20 6:45pm

Which mission where you in, and what years?

BYUfan92

2/23/20 6:58pm

Crickets lol

rggee

2/23/20 8:59pm

Yeah......nope

rggee

2/23/20 3:06pm

Ha, what a liar

vegas guey

2/23/20 3:08pm

Where? My sons are in central and South America and have played bball a handful

BYU Grounds

2/23/20 3:15pm

Doubling down, huh?

svenot

2/23/20 3:38pm

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Odysseus

2/23/20 2:52pm

Lol. You just compared an RM 23 year old to NBA players with multiple years

LiveCoug

2/23/20 2:53pm

No I didn't, or at least that wasn't my intention

salamishitake

2/23/20 4:04pm

You need to compare 24 to 22. Not 24/25/26 to 19 and early 20.

LiveCoug

2/23/20 4:44pm

But 24 year old lebron didn’t take 2 years off of bball

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 5:02pm

RE: BYU age/maturity advantage due to missions, if you think it's not an

Squeegee

2/23/20 2:53pm

Yeah I never get comments like these.

Bell of the Ball

2/23/20 2:53pm

their bodies are drastically different

salamishitake

2/23/20 2:55pm

In a business where you are past your prime at 35 a year is HUGE

Bell of the Ball

2/23/20 2:57pm

you are kind of proving my point there

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:10pm

RE: you are kind of proving my point there

Bell of the Ball

2/23/20 3:20pm

I disagree ... those mission years is where college athletes develop the most.

Avery

2/23/20 2:54pm

Yoeli is 22, Seljaas is 22, Toolson is 23, Haws is 24

jes2332

2/23/20 2:55pm

Tillie is 22 next week. Gilder is 24. Woolridge is 23

LiveCoug

2/23/20 2:58pm

Kispert is 21 next week

LiveCoug

2/23/20 3:00pm

Which player falls in that category: Yoeli? Jake? Zach?

BYU'01

2/23/20 2:57pm

it absolutely helps to have those guys in college basketball

salamishitake

2/23/20 2:59pm

You’re lost was about RM’s now you’re talking seniors without missions. Which

SouthernBlueBlood

2/23/20 3:03pm

Nice circular logic

BYU'01

2/23/20 4:10pm

who says I broke mission rules?

salamishitake

2/23/20 4:21pm

Sometimes it’s an advantage, sure.

shimmy

2/23/20 2:57pm

that's all I'm saying

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:33pm

Probably you should go back and read your OP, because that's not all you're saying.

No touching

2/23/20 3:55pm

nah. you went beyond

shimmy

2/23/20 7:09pm

Ask Pope, Sitake, Rose, Bronco, etc if they would would prefer continuity over

bluesloth

2/23/20 2:59pm

Logistically it is absolutely a problem for coaches

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:03pm

They recruit RMs because we primarily recruit LDS players and a lot of them

bluesloth

2/23/20 3:05pm

Dude you’re a Utah fan, you have nothing to contribute here

cougfan03

2/23/20 3:01pm

I'm a Utah fan so I don't get to have opinions about stuff?

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:05pm

Of course you get to have opinions. And your wrong opinions will be contested

LiveCoug

2/23/20 3:05pm

which is just fine, but that isn't what coufan03 did

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:09pm

No, he said nothing HERE. On CougarBoard, not Uteboard.

Squeegee

2/23/20 3:10pm

Did you try posting that riveting take on your own little site?

vegas guey

2/23/20 3:12pm

Your season is over, why do you care about BYU basketball?

cougfan03

2/23/20 3:53pm

Um no

BYU Grounds

2/23/20 3:36pm

I love how it’s only an advantage when BYU is successful.

che flaco

2/23/20 3:09pm

Everyone has access to this "advantage", so it's not an advantage

The Dark Knight

2/23/20 3:09pm

I'm not whining about BYU having an unfair advantage

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:11pm

That's like saying "practicing three pointers is an advantage"

The Dark Knight

2/23/20 4:53pm

I thought your username was salami sh!t take at first, would be fitting.

fldnstrm

2/23/20 3:09pm

Nah, it's just a play on announcers pronouncing Kalani's name so horribly wrong

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:12pm

Glad to see this post not deleted. Ive been suspended for less.

Rooney

2/24/20 3:14am

Board name checks out (the last two syllables).

COACHdrn

2/23/20 3:11pm

Out of our starting 5-6 (only Haws served for 2 years) your argument doesn’t

BYUFootballisBack

2/23/20 3:12pm

that's absolutely true for this year's team

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:16pm

So what years team then? Because we’ve sucked for a long time...

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 5:04pm

Change your tag line to “anyone who doesn’t think it’s an advantage to have a

BYUFootballisBack

2/23/20 3:17pm

Now that I can agree with. But the mission adds nothing to that argument.

BYUHawk

2/23/20 3:20pm

BOOM! ROASTED

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 5:04pm

I love it when these complaints resurface. It means BYU is good again.

GRCoug

2/23/20 3:13pm

I'm not complaining about anything

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:15pm

You still haven’t answered who the 25, 26 year old players are

jes2332

2/23/20 3:18pm

This year? You are absolutely right

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:57pm

This is in the basketball category and we are clearly talking about basketball

jes2332

2/23/20 4:32pm

I hope it's a huge advantage.

Belboz

2/23/20 3:18pm

Ute trolls gonna troll. Surprised mods let you get away with that board name.

Lieutenant America

2/23/20 3:20pm

of course we do, nobody is claiming that it's unfair, or that it shouldn't be

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:34pm

GO!!!!!!

LDTemplar

2/24/20 12:58pm

How’s that worked out for FB? Worst take of the year so far.

BountifulCoug5

2/23/20 3:21pm

It made big difference for me in my athletic career.

zephyr

2/23/20 3:22pm

RE: BYU age/maturity advantage due to missions, if you think it's not an

cougman02

2/23/20 3:31pm

I am a usc fan and booster, and recently a BYU fan because my son is a student

cougman02

2/23/20 3:34pm

Thank your son for choosing BYU. Thank you for supporting him.

idcougarfan

2/23/20 4:25pm

THIS. So much this. Thank you for your perspective. And we are glad to have your

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 5:09pm

Eric Mika wouldn't have left after his So. year if it wasn't for his mission

ayfan

2/23/20 3:37pm

absolutely, I'm not arguing that it's better for their long term pro careers

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:53pm

There have got to be at least a dozen examples of BYU players whose careers were

che flaco

2/23/20 3:40pm

I can agree with that, I'm not claiming it's better for everyone

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:54pm

Dumb. Just dumb. And insanely wrong.

Yohy

2/23/20 3:44pm

RE: BYU age/maturity advantage due to missions, if you think it's not an

eddog

2/23/20 3:48pm

I served a mission in Europe and played a total of 3 times. I would have played every week if it had been possible, but

No touching

2/23/20 3:49pm

This is one of the worst takes this board has ever seen.

crazY

2/23/20 3:54pm

Nobody is claiming that serving a mission gives you an athletic advantage

salamishitake

2/23/20 3:56pm

That isn't that much considering the ages. Plus mental and physical toughness in

cougman02

2/23/20 4:09pm

Two years of extra maturing do provide an advantage

salamishitake

2/23/20 4:22pm

No matter how many times you try to frame it, missions do not provide an

crazY

2/23/20 5:18pm

This might be the best argument. Looking at all of BYU’s best players in fb and

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 5:05pm

It’s especially true in Yoeli’s case.

Brisco

2/23/20 4:05pm

Funny... same excuse used against BYU when they suck! Which is it?

jpal1397

2/23/20 4:12pm

yeah, that's not the argument I am making

salamishitake

2/23/20 4:24pm

There are all types of advantages in college sports

Housemartin

2/23/20 4:25pm

So why have we been average or below average the last 9 years?

Traveshamockery

2/23/20 4:26pm

Then why do so many schools tell recruits they don’t want them to serve missions

ColonelMustard

2/23/20 4:53pm

Who is 24 let alone 25 or 26?

ochobeeguy

2/23/20 6:39pm

Very few of the greats that have come through our BBall and FBall programs

chazen

2/24/20 11:25am

Go away, yewt!

LDTemplar

2/24/20 12:50pm

Missions do not help maintain muscle, endurance, or athleticism.

MajorZeus

2/24/20 1:21pm

Your post shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

jdub

2/24/20 3:40pm

Funny how Gonzaga didn’t mention the mission thing when they beat us by 25

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