So doesn’t using the term give them fuel to continue deflecting?

Mar 18, 2020
8:12:43pm

Gorgias Contributor

If the term “Chinese flu” were retired, they wouldn’t have the identity politics argument anymore. So what do we gain by continuing to use it?

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It's the Chinese Virus

YIsForBrigham Poo Poo

3/18/20 3:34pm

What repercussions should the world inflict on China for this? I feel like they must be held accountable

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 3:36pm

regime change

CougarTwins

3/18/20 3:40pm

It isn't fair, but I'm not sure what we could do, to be honest.

ReyOso

3/18/20 3:41pm

There's a lot we can do. Financial sanctions. Forced compliance with WHO disclosures and inspectors. Trade sanctions.

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 3:49pm

People think quarantine is too drastic, but a new Cold War is not?

ReyOso

3/18/20 3:52pm

Right. Does the West have the fortitude to actually do that? Probably not. Appeasement and shrugs will probably

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 4:17pm

Sue China and for penalties we will erase our trade debt with them

BYU Grounds

3/18/20 3:49pm

Make Mexico our new "China"

VACOUGFAN

3/18/20 5:53pm

With the help of the US military? Why not the Mexican military?

Diablo and Doc

3/19/20 7:23am

We should make them eat bats

MaxxPower

3/18/20 8:05pm

First case was identified on 11/17 and 2 months later 01/14 the WHO reported that Chinese officials said there is no

Pimpin4Paradise

3/18/20 3:39pm

This article says it would have reduced the cases by 95%

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 3:40pm

That was a 3 week delay. They knew about 9 weeks in advance of getting serious. This thing could have been stopped in

Pimpin4Paradise

3/18/20 3:44pm

Good point. If they did not follow the communist playbook of suppressing information and punishing free speech

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 3:50pm

I would like to know how many people were hospitalized and died of the flu

TheHop

3/18/20 3:48pm

Sounds a lot like Trump's response...had the US acted three weeks earlier....

8-track

3/18/20 3:42pm

RE: Sounds a lot like Trump's response...had the US acted three weeks

Niiineteeen84

3/18/20 3:45pm

This isn't about Biden. He wasn't president. Trump is the one who sat on his

8-track

3/18/20 4:01pm

What a joke. Imagine if we were all judged under the same scrutiny

carcoug

3/18/20 5:09pm

We all are judged according to the job we've been given.

8-track

3/18/20 6:27pm

That narrative is not going to work anymore.

carcoug

3/18/20 3:51pm

why not?

Supercoug

3/18/20 3:55pm

Why?

8-track

3/18/20 3:55pm

Because it's backseat, Monday morning armchair QB Bull ute

carcoug

3/18/20 5:11pm

?? So it's not OK to criticize the decisions of a president?

8-track

3/18/20 6:26pm

The travel ban took place Jan. 31. That's 2 weeks after WHO said the virus

Niiineteeen84

3/18/20 3:56pm

From someone I work with in China: nobody wanted to have our New Years canceled

1984coug

3/18/20 4:09pm

China may be at fault, but calling it the "Chinese virus" is dangerous

Gorgias

3/18/20 5:11pm

It’s not dangerous at all. This is all post modernist mumbo jumbo

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 5:15pm

Okay let's put it this way

Gorgias

3/18/20 5:36pm

Yes but can we call it cougarvirus instead?

Blue Cougar

3/18/20 5:43pm

I know you're joking, but seriously, imagine if it was your daughter

Gorgias

3/18/20 5:45pm

Here's the tweet thread if you want to read it (strong language warning)

Gorgias

3/18/20 5:47pm

Depends...are you OK calling Chinese food by a different name?

Blue Cougar

3/18/20 6:33pm

Chinese food is delicious and doesn't carry strong negative connotations.

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:35pm

I can’t even follow your appeals to emotion. This is nonsense

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 5:59pm

What part is nonsense? I'm honestly curious?

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:06pm

You assertion that isolated instances of name calling is so detrimental that it’s worth obscuring the truth

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 6:11pm

What is the truth you're referring to here? The origin of the virus?

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:15pm

It’s important to clarify that this originated in China and was exacerbated by the Chinese government. I would accept

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 6:24pm

Sure, PRC virus is better because it focuses on gov't not people.

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:27pm

Ok will call it communist contagion

BYU Grounds

3/18/20 11:09pm

Godwin's law. You lose.

Iman23

3/18/20 5:24pm

Is it Godwin's law if it's true?

Gorgias

3/18/20 5:44pm

Honestly, there is so much performance on social media to hit the right

Iman23

3/18/20 6:05pm

If there's even a chance that not calling it "Chinese flu" can preempt this kind

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:12pm

It doesn’t matter, it will not result in any sort of widespread hate crimes.

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:18pm

You're wrong. It already is.

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:20pm

Meh...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:24pm

I'm sorry you've given up on the fight against racism. I haven't.

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:26pm

Well keep up the good fight...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:31pm

It's the broken windows theory. Start with the little things.

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:34pm

Overwrought hyperbole.

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:09pm

Care to explain?

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:16pm

Read my post above.

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:19pm

Not really...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:08pm

Why is this accuracy so important? Why make the shift now to this new term?

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:18pm

I don’t care one way or the other...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:20pm

If you don't care, cool. Move along. But you're wrong when you say it doesn't

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:24pm

He wasn’t talking about what you’re trying to sell.

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:25pm

He's talking about being careful about the language we use

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:28pm

The Chinese virus isn’t a slur...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:33pm

Sure, you don't think so. But if some people think it is, why not avoid it?

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:36pm

Honestly I’ve never once called it that as of this moment...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:41pm

Strongly disagree. The CCP is using the racism charge to deflect the fact that

TerpCoug

3/18/20 6:22pm

Frankly, Trump is probably using this language to create this new "outrage"

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:33pm

So now we get to the root of your angst.

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 6:43pm

No. Division is the root of my angst no matter the source.

Gorgias

3/18/20 6:48pm

Yeah, Trump made mistakes, but the CCP is deliberately hiding behind identity

TerpCoug

3/18/20 7:31pm

So doesn’t using the term give them fuel to continue deflecting?

Gorgias

3/18/20 8:12pm

#kungflu

NorthwestCoug

3/18/20 5:11pm

Cool, racists will totally eat this up. Good job spreading this

Machiavelli

3/18/20 5:33pm

I choose not to let racists dictate my thoughts or words. but you do you

YIsForBrigham

3/18/20 6:17pm

Lol, turn a blind eye. That's a great justification

Machiavelli

3/18/20 6:52pm

I'm going with the "Wu Flu"

SpiffCoug

3/18/20 5:55pm

Who cares if they do, non racists will do the same...

CoachSpeak

3/18/20 5:57pm

The evidence zteongy suggests it was bioengineeted..

CarolinaCoug

3/18/20 8:44pm

Nick Saban wants you cut back on the bourbon, although I do get what you said.

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