You know who you should trust that knows this stuff?

Apr 15, 2020
3:23:25pm

Medute All-American

The answer is not a paramedic Or firefighter. He does not fill out the death certificate. He does not see the death certificate after the fact. He isn’t there when the death certificate is completed. He wouldn’t know.

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I know a first responder in Nevada. He says nearly every person they respond to

gwalker

4/15/20 3:20pm

It’s the justification for ruining livelihoods.

Adwight

4/15/20 3:22pm

That’s it. Of course.

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 4:32pm

No one wants to ruin livelihoods.

rockyrd

4/15/20 6:34pm

But some don't care if they do. Not enough, anyway

fattycoug

4/15/20 6:34pm

A few may even see it as an opportunity to forward an agenda of more govt sponsored dependence.

Soupie

4/15/20 6:40pm

Wanna bet? By any means necessary. It is a motto not a saying.

ImuaKahuku

4/15/20 6:40pm

Do states get reimbursed for COVD 19 DEATHS.

BYU71

4/15/20 3:22pm

I don't know. I think many people think they will get some form of monetary

gwalker

4/15/20 3:23pm

Yes they do.

DJROSS

4/15/20 3:33pm

Link?

Champ Kind

4/15/20 3:46pm

They all have disaster declarations in place. The more deaths the more hardship

mudpupper

4/15/20 4:27pm

Yep Cuomo was complaining about getting 12000 per fatality when states like

DJROSS

4/15/20 4:40pm

You know who you should trust that knows this stuff?

Medute

4/15/20 3:23pm

I wonder why he thinks that's the case.

gwalker

4/15/20 3:24pm

Serious question. Does your friend have strong feelings about this stuff?

Medute

4/15/20 3:26pm

I actually don’t know much about how he feels about the situation other than

gwalker

4/15/20 3:28pm

RE: Serious question. Does your friend have strong feelings about this stuff?

WJCougar

4/15/20 3:35pm

You're saying first responders don't have conversations with ER doctors?

ochobeeguy

4/15/20 5:12pm

hearsay

Tokolosh

4/15/20 3:28pm

Could be.

gwalker

4/15/20 3:30pm

Because it falls in line with his political beliefs.

shimmy

4/15/20 3:41pm

I know how you feel about it G man.. are you sure your own feelings

byukarl

4/15/20 4:02pm

I’ve said in this thread maybe I believed what he said without being as critical

gwalker

4/15/20 4:25pm

He heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another

Pro Logic

4/15/20 3:38pm

RE: He heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from

El Fuego

4/15/20 3:43pm

Yup....that is complete BS. Paramedics and first responders have no idea what is listed as the cause of death.

Virginia Ute

4/15/20 3:48pm

Yes but even Dr. Deborah Birx has said that they typically count people who die

JmThms

4/15/20 4:09pm

What if I told you they do the same thing for the flu?

doktorpfeffer

4/15/20 6:39pm

I understand the relative comparison. But people are focusing on the COVID

JmThms

4/15/20 6:44pm

You have a good point, On the other hand there is financial incentive to

Blue2thebone

4/15/20 9:34pm

I don’t disagree. But we shouldn’t spread false information

Medute

4/15/20 9:40pm

My BIL in the Phoenix area has told me it's the same thing there

wabluecoug

4/15/20 3:23pm

Is he a first responder too? If so, Thank him for his service but

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 4:36pm

Follow the money.

777

4/15/20 3:23pm

Yep. Hospitals get more money the more covid-related deaths they report

maxpowers

4/15/20 3:50pm

Really? Where? I have two brothers and multiple friends that are first

acougfan

4/15/20 3:24pm

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rivercitycoug

4/15/20 3:25pm

It’s true.

Gerald-DeGroot

4/15/20 3:28pm

It is because hospitals will receive incentive money and they do not want deaths

cornellcoug

4/15/20 3:30pm

It’s the way they make the numbers ‘work’ CDC has already

kotacoug

4/15/20 3:44pm

Link?

Champ Kind

4/15/20 3:47pm

Google it.

kotacoug

4/15/20 5:16pm

Even though pretty much 5% of all people tested are positive.

ochobeeguy

4/15/20 5:14pm

They did autopsy that showed the virus causes clotting in the lungs and in

tawillin

4/15/20 3:45pm

Also possible.

gwalker

4/15/20 3:47pm

Yeah, but even in people our health care profession suspect have covid-19 due

Coach's Dad

4/15/20 3:52pm

How could he possibly know that?

Josef K

4/15/20 3:49pm

Facebook

El Fuego

4/15/20 3:50pm

I've already answered this question a couple of times. I don't know. I didn't

gwalker

4/15/20 3:53pm

what incentives do counties have to make this stuff up?

Josef K

4/15/20 3:57pm

Again. I don’t know. It isn’t hard to think the Feds will send out relief

gwalker

4/15/20 4:00pm

Thanks. i really enjoy your posts and your POV. I don't mean to be

Josef K

4/15/20 7:24pm

First responders would need to be notified if they were in contact with someone

ochobeeguy

4/15/20 5:16pm

That would be a surprise. Nevada has had only about 100 deaths

jkccoug

4/15/20 4:20pm

131, I guess.

jkccoug

4/15/20 4:23pm

Seems close to "about 100"

fattycoug

4/15/20 6:35pm

Sounds legit

coolcats

4/15/20 4:22pm

RE: Sounds legit

gwalker

4/15/20 4:31pm

Hopefully this post teaches us all something. Not everything we’d like to

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 4:43pm

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, first responders are not the best source on this

Dwight89

4/15/20 5:07pm

RE: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, first responders are not the best source on

gwalker

4/15/20 5:11pm

Because first responders do the autopsies

Sumguy

4/15/20 5:11pm

RE: Because first responders do the autopsies

gwalker

4/15/20 5:12pm

More than one person can be right at a time

Sumguy

4/15/20 5:18pm

The point is you hacked. If you had bothered to read the thread you'd see

gwalker

4/15/20 5:19pm

RE: The point is you hacked. If you had bothered to read the thread you'd see

Sumguy

4/15/20 6:17pm

For what it’s worth I’ve heard similar reports but nothing first hand. One of

bigbossbyu

4/15/20 5:14pm

And only four hospitalizations (and I am told from a solid source that I

gwalker

4/15/20 5:17pm

Interesting. Kinda crazy people would freak out enough to call an ambulance.

bigbossbyu

4/15/20 5:20pm

Not calling your source wrong. Just bizarre how nothing adds up anywhere and

bigbossbyu

4/15/20 5:21pm

Agreed. Others make a good point about the death certificate.

gwalker

4/15/20 5:23pm

$13,000 from Medicaid per Covid patient, $39,000 if put on a ventilator.

EtTuKalante

4/15/20 5:20pm

Honestly people. The hospital is getting paid if it’s covid or not.

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 8:28pm

*Hasn't read the CARES Act.

EtTuKalante

4/15/20 8:34pm

Probably happening in ID, too. Nez Perce County has 10 COVID-19 deaths

CougarThug

4/15/20 5:37pm

Why are so many on CB accepting the word of those not in a position to know?

Oatmeal

4/15/20 6:55pm

Yes. The CDC requires that COVID-19 be included on death certificates.

bigjohn

4/15/20 7:18pm

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