I understand the relative comparison. But people are focusing on the COVID

Apr 15, 2020
6:44:01pm

JmThms Truly Addicted User

numbers. So the "real" number is lower than represented for that and other reasons. And Birx thought the point worthy of emphasis in her briefing.

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I know a first responder in Nevada. He says nearly every person they respond to

gwalker

4/15/20 3:20pm

It’s the justification for ruining livelihoods.

Adwight

4/15/20 3:22pm

That’s it. Of course.

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 4:32pm

No one wants to ruin livelihoods.

rockyrd

4/15/20 6:34pm

But some don't care if they do. Not enough, anyway

fattycoug

4/15/20 6:34pm

A few may even see it as an opportunity to forward an agenda of more govt sponsored dependence.

Soupie

4/15/20 6:40pm

Wanna bet? By any means necessary. It is a motto not a saying.

ImuaKahuku

4/15/20 6:40pm

Do states get reimbursed for COVD 19 DEATHS.

BYU71

4/15/20 3:22pm

I don't know. I think many people think they will get some form of monetary

gwalker

4/15/20 3:23pm

Yes they do.

DJROSS

4/15/20 3:33pm

Link?

Champ Kind

4/15/20 3:46pm

They all have disaster declarations in place. The more deaths the more hardship

mudpupper

4/15/20 4:27pm

Yep Cuomo was complaining about getting 12000 per fatality when states like

DJROSS

4/15/20 4:40pm

You know who you should trust that knows this stuff?

Medute

4/15/20 3:23pm

I wonder why he thinks that's the case.

gwalker

4/15/20 3:24pm

Serious question. Does your friend have strong feelings about this stuff?

Medute

4/15/20 3:26pm

I actually don’t know much about how he feels about the situation other than

gwalker

4/15/20 3:28pm

RE: Serious question. Does your friend have strong feelings about this stuff?

WJCougar

4/15/20 3:35pm

You're saying first responders don't have conversations with ER doctors?

ochobeeguy

4/15/20 5:12pm

hearsay

Tokolosh

4/15/20 3:28pm

Could be.

gwalker

4/15/20 3:30pm

Because it falls in line with his political beliefs.

shimmy

4/15/20 3:41pm

I know how you feel about it G man.. are you sure your own feelings

byukarl

4/15/20 4:02pm

I’ve said in this thread maybe I believed what he said without being as critical

gwalker

4/15/20 4:25pm

He heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another

Pro Logic

4/15/20 3:38pm

RE: He heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from

El Fuego

4/15/20 3:43pm

Yup....that is complete BS. Paramedics and first responders have no idea what is listed as the cause of death.

Virginia Ute

4/15/20 3:48pm

Yes but even Dr. Deborah Birx has said that they typically count people who die

JmThms

4/15/20 4:09pm

What if I told you they do the same thing for the flu?

doktorpfeffer

4/15/20 6:39pm

I understand the relative comparison. But people are focusing on the COVID

JmThms

4/15/20 6:44pm

You have a good point, On the other hand there is financial incentive to

Blue2thebone

4/15/20 9:34pm

I don’t disagree. But we shouldn’t spread false information

Medute

4/15/20 9:40pm

My BIL in the Phoenix area has told me it's the same thing there

wabluecoug

4/15/20 3:23pm

Is he a first responder too? If so, Thank him for his service but

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 4:36pm

Follow the money.

777

4/15/20 3:23pm

Yep. Hospitals get more money the more covid-related deaths they report

maxpowers

4/15/20 3:50pm

Really? Where? I have two brothers and multiple friends that are first

acougfan

4/15/20 3:24pm

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rivercitycoug

4/15/20 3:25pm

It’s true.

Gerald-DeGroot

4/15/20 3:28pm

It is because hospitals will receive incentive money and they do not want deaths

cornellcoug

4/15/20 3:30pm

It’s the way they make the numbers ‘work’ CDC has already

kotacoug

4/15/20 3:44pm

Link?

Champ Kind

4/15/20 3:47pm

Google it.

kotacoug

4/15/20 5:16pm

Even though pretty much 5% of all people tested are positive.

ochobeeguy

4/15/20 5:14pm

They did autopsy that showed the virus causes clotting in the lungs and in

tawillin

4/15/20 3:45pm

Also possible.

gwalker

4/15/20 3:47pm

Yeah, but even in people our health care profession suspect have covid-19 due

Coach's Dad

4/15/20 3:52pm

How could he possibly know that?

Josef K

4/15/20 3:49pm

Facebook

El Fuego

4/15/20 3:50pm

I've already answered this question a couple of times. I don't know. I didn't

gwalker

4/15/20 3:53pm

what incentives do counties have to make this stuff up?

Josef K

4/15/20 3:57pm

Again. I don’t know. It isn’t hard to think the Feds will send out relief

gwalker

4/15/20 4:00pm

Thanks. i really enjoy your posts and your POV. I don't mean to be

Josef K

4/15/20 7:24pm

First responders would need to be notified if they were in contact with someone

ochobeeguy

4/15/20 5:16pm

That would be a surprise. Nevada has had only about 100 deaths

jkccoug

4/15/20 4:20pm

131, I guess.

jkccoug

4/15/20 4:23pm

Seems close to "about 100"

fattycoug

4/15/20 6:35pm

Sounds legit

coolcats

4/15/20 4:22pm

RE: Sounds legit

gwalker

4/15/20 4:31pm

Hopefully this post teaches us all something. Not everything we’d like to

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 4:43pm

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, first responders are not the best source on this

Dwight89

4/15/20 5:07pm

RE: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, first responders are not the best source on

gwalker

4/15/20 5:11pm

Because first responders do the autopsies

Sumguy

4/15/20 5:11pm

RE: Because first responders do the autopsies

gwalker

4/15/20 5:12pm

More than one person can be right at a time

Sumguy

4/15/20 5:18pm

The point is you hacked. If you had bothered to read the thread you'd see

gwalker

4/15/20 5:19pm

RE: The point is you hacked. If you had bothered to read the thread you'd see

Sumguy

4/15/20 6:17pm

For what it’s worth I’ve heard similar reports but nothing first hand. One of

bigbossbyu

4/15/20 5:14pm

And only four hospitalizations (and I am told from a solid source that I

gwalker

4/15/20 5:17pm

Interesting. Kinda crazy people would freak out enough to call an ambulance.

bigbossbyu

4/15/20 5:20pm

Not calling your source wrong. Just bizarre how nothing adds up anywhere and

bigbossbyu

4/15/20 5:21pm

Agreed. Others make a good point about the death certificate.

gwalker

4/15/20 5:23pm

$13,000 from Medicaid per Covid patient, $39,000 if put on a ventilator.

EtTuKalante

4/15/20 5:20pm

Honestly people. The hospital is getting paid if it’s covid or not.

StalwartBraveTrue

4/15/20 8:28pm

*Hasn't read the CARES Act.

EtTuKalante

4/15/20 8:34pm

Probably happening in ID, too. Nez Perce County has 10 COVID-19 deaths

CougarThug

4/15/20 5:37pm

Why are so many on CB accepting the word of those not in a position to know?

Oatmeal

4/15/20 6:55pm

Yes. The CDC requires that COVID-19 be included on death certificates.

bigjohn

4/15/20 7:18pm

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